Yes, Derek Falvey should be Trusted to Make Trade Decisions at the Deadline

[Whitey333]

Very interesting comments by all.  I find myself almost depressed  over the current Twins.  They Do play very boring baseball.  This Twins brand is so stale that people are clamoring for new ownership.  New ownership will need to instill some excitement.  They need to get rid of both Falvey and Rocco just to start with.  But it's just my opinion.  And it seems more and more that any contrary opinions from the writer is apparently wrong and taboo

[Greggory Masterson]

2 hours ago, Whitey333 said:

Very interesting comments by all.  I find myself almost depressed  over the current Twins.  They Do play very boring baseball.  This Twins brand is so stale that people are clamoring for new ownership.  New ownership will need to instill some excitement.  They need to get rid of both Falvey and Rocco just to start with.  But it's just my opinion.  And it seems more and more that any contrary opinions from the writer is apparently wrong and taboo

Heck no, let me hear your derision!

[KirbyDome89]

7 hours ago, Hawkeye Bean Counter said:

Lets look at trades where we were not forced buyers.  

Cruz for Ryan -  Did you like that trade,  should this trade increase your trust? 

Petty for Gray - Did you like that trade, should this trade increase your trust? 

Arraez for Lopez -  Did you like that trade,  should this trade increase your trust? 

Duran for Escobar -  Did you like that trade,  should this trade increase your trust?  

Berrios for Martin and SWR.  Berrios had a WAR of .9 for 2021 and 2022 which he was under control for.  Martin has flopped, but SWR has a WAR of 3.3.     This is a trade more can have questions on but its still a win for now.  

 

You add in getting rid of Donaldson contract (maybe you question signing him), the Rogers trade equated to equal value, and as of right now we are way ahead on the Polanco trade who had negative value last year with Gabriel Gonzalez.  So on his skills on trading players,  its honestly 1 of his strongest attributes.  He does understand the value of assets in trades.  This isn't me trying to convince you,  its merely me giving you the facts.  He has won a majority of the times when he has not been trying to buy to improve the team for the stretch run.  If you want to go on performance fine.   Most of our issues are with management,  I will not totally agree with everything Falvey has done, but all in all for the most part he has given us a competitive team every year (some years they haven't performed).  In the meantime the minors is the strongest it has ever been.  With quality hitters and Pitchers. 

The argument will be the Twins have had minimal success taking these prospects and turning them into legitimate players.  As of now the results have not been great.   Right now Ober, Sands and Varland and Matthews, Lewis, Lee Larnach and Wallner are the players that have been drafted.  We need a postitional player to become a star,  can Lee or Lewis become that - as of now it doesn't look likely.  Matthews has a legitimate shot at becoming a high end pitcher for the Twins.  

So if you don't want to trust him with trading the players my response would be,  he has shown nothing on trades,  especially when he has been in the power position to lose your trust.   

What is a "forced buyer?"

There's some real revisionist history going on here. Arraez won a SS and was getting MVP votes, Berrios had one down year but has otherwise been the exact guy Toronto thought they were getting for the other 2.5 seasons, plus he absolutely shoved at Target Field during that WC series. Topa and Anthony DeSclafani were part of the Polanco swap, but the Twins are "way ahead," because a prospect in A/AA has had a good half season after crashing out last year? Paddack and Emilio Pagan? Most of what you've listed is far from a slam dunk, if even a W for the Twins. Duran and Ryan are obvious wins. Nobody should really complain about the Gray swap regardless of Petty's future. 

This "competitive," team is about to miss the playoffs for the 4th time in 5 seasons. I mean, what are we talking about here. Management is the issue? Who hires management? The organization is chock full of quality hitters but the offense continues to sputter? We're still waiting on the vaunted "pipeline." Someday right? 

The Twins have serious issues with talent identification and/or development, so yeah, it makes sense that fans wouldn't want the person most responsible for these issues, to be the one pulling the trigger on moves at a pivotal deadline. 

[USAFChief]

4 hours ago, KirbyDome89 said:

What is a "forced buyer?"

There's some real revisionist history going on here. Arraez won a SS and was getting MVP votes, Berrios had one down year but has otherwise been the exact guy Toronto thought they were getting for the other 2.5 seasons, plus he absolutely shoved at Target Field during that WC series. Topa and Anthony DeSclafani were part of the Polanco swap, but the Twins are "way ahead," because a prospect in A/AA has had a good half season after crashing out last year? Paddack and Emilio Pagan? Most of what you've listed is far from a slam dunk, if even a W for the Twins. Duran and Ryan are obvious wins. Nobody should really complain about the Gray swap regardless of Petty's future. 

This "competitive," team is about to miss the playoffs for the 4th time in 5 seasons. I mean, what are we talking about here. Management is the issue? Who hires management? The organization is chock full of quality hitters but the offense continues to sputter? We're still waiting on the vaunted "pipeline." Someday right? 

The Twins have serious issues with talent identification and/or development, so yeah, it makes sense that fans wouldn't want the person most responsible for these issues, to be the one pulling the trigger on moves at a pivotal deadline. 

Concur

[CoachDW]

Yes, Derek Falvey should be Trusted to Make Trade Decisions at the Deadline

After today's Duran trade fiasco, this article's headline did not age well at all.