Ranking the Untouchable Players in Potential Twins Trades

[IndianaTwin]

9 hours ago, Fire Dan Gladden said:

I put Ryan as nearly untouchable because he a cost-controlled 2/3 type SP.  Hard to imagine a scenario or player the Twins would package him for.... 

Fair enough. Maybe another way of saying it is that if we were ranking them, I'd have Lewis at 4 and Ryan at 5, but that's semantics. We're on the same page in thinking it would take a haul to include Ryan.   

[chpettit19]

If I could turn Ryan and his extra years of control into an actual playoff caliber starter with fewer years of control I'd do it in a heartbeat. I think he's peaked, and he's closer to the guy we saw in the 2nd half than the guy we saw in the first half. HRs are always going to be part of his game because he just has such a small margin for error with his stuff. If he misses the top of the zone with his fastball it's batting practice and hitters are going to continue to tee off on him. 

If I could turn him into Burnes or Bieber and extend them with the Polanco and Kepler contracts being moved I think that's an absolute win for the Twins. 

[Fatbat]

4 hours ago, Fire Dan Gladden said:

The points you make are valid.  However, unless the Twins come out and say Correa or Lee is being moved to another position, Lee is the odd man out.

Teams prefer to trade form a position of depth...

Odd man out right now but thats based on age and development. He has a higher floor and ceiling than Julien.  I could be wrong but the FO wants the 5 best infielders on our roster and would be willing to trade the #6 or 7…. Which would be based on several factors (age,salary, WAR, intangibles, etc. ) of course, if someone came with a legit trade proposal on any of the 5, then the FO would have to consider said trade proposal. 

[Jeff K]

On 11/20/2023 at 1:25 PM, Eris said:

I agree with your assessment. The outfield is average to slightly above average. However, upgrading from this via a trade is not so easy. If you take Kepler as an example there are only about 10 outfielders who have both better offensive and defensive metrics than Max Kepler. (Data is from Fangraphs)  It may take a significant package to acquire someone better than Kepler on both sides of the ball. Our best hope for OF improvement is internally. If the criteria is improvement in either offense or defense, but not both, than that is much easier to achieve. 

I agree.  I also think that they may need to keep Kepler for that very reason.  They could move Kirilloff back to the OF, but that raises questions too.