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Well  he still may sign, I will leave the doom and gloom IF we finally have try to find a pitcher of equal ability.

Remember we got Correa, so the Twins Org. must have some appeal.

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Ist I congratulate Sonny Gray for coming in 2nd in the CY & thank you for what you accomplished as a Twin. As expected Gray turned down the Twins QO. In this thread I like to show how  Gray should appreciate the Twins.

Below is a '21 comparison between Gray & Mahle before the '22 offseason

 

 

Name G GS W L PCT ERA SV IP H ER R HR BB SO
                             
Sonny Gray 26 26 7 9 .438 4.19 0 135.1 115 63 67 19 50 155
                             
Tyler Mahle 33 33 13 6 .684 3.75 0 180.0 158 75 78 24 64 210

 

Here we see that Mahle was a better pitcher than Gray going into the '22 off season. Better record, better ERA & pitched more innings.

In the 1st half of the '22 season, Gray pitched 63 innings & Mahle pitched 96 innings. The Reds pushed Mahle & his arm fell off (figuratively speaking) when the Twins got him.

Let's supposed that roles were switched that Mahle was traded in the offseason to the Twins & Sonny stayed with Reds to be traded at the deadline. With the Reds wanting to showcase Gray they'd (with Gray's blessing) over-stretch him like Mahle. I'd imagine that Gray's arm would be in worse condition & prematurely ruin his chances to have anything to show coming into free agency, let alone 2nd in the CY. It'd be very hard to forecast what Mahle could have accomplished if he was properly managed by the Twins if he was traded in the off season. But he could have been just as good.

So Gray has a lot to thank the Twins for properly managing him against his stern grievances.

 

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