2022 Vikings Off-Season Thread

[nicksaviking]

Im annoyed but still want to play. My new prediction is Mafe and Christian Watson at 32 and 34.

[Vanimal46]

7 minutes ago, Danchat said:

Everyone is pissed off over at Purple Pain, and yes, it's a bad trade, but it's not the end of the world. I am frustrated they didn't go for a blue chipper like Johnson or Hamilton.

I’m frustrated that Williams, Davis, and Hamilton were there for us and we passed them up. 

[Vanimal46]

5 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Im annoyed but still want to play. My new prediction is Mafe and Christian Watson at 32 and 34.

 

[Vanimal46]

Wowzers

[Danchat]

Marquise Brown from the Ravens to Cardinals, AJ Brown from the Titans to Eagles... and then Dotson at #15!! The draft is officially going haywire.

[TheLeviathan]

The Eagles got AJ Brown and a third for 18.....the Cardinals got Hollywood Brown for 23.  How stupid must the Cards feel?

[Danchat]

4 minutes ago, TheLeviathan said:

The Eagles got AJ Brown and a third for 18.....the Cardinals got Hollywood Brown for 23.  How stupid must the Cards feel?

The Cards also got a 3rd, and there's also the matter of the Eagles giving Brown a $100M/4 year deal. I don't like this move for the Titans. I don't think Burks will be as good as Brown.

[TheLeviathan]

Just now, Danchat said:

The Cards also got a 3rd, and there's also the matter of the Eagles giving Brown a $100M/4 year deal. I don't like this move for the Titans. I don't think Burks will be as good as Brown.

Sure, but Brown is at least a potential superstar.  (Plus, the Eagles got a 3rd too I think?)

Hollywood is not.  He's not even a legit number 1 IMO.

[Danchat]

6 minutes ago, TheLeviathan said:

Sure, but Brown is at least a potential superstar.  (Plus, the Eagles got a 3rd too I think?)

Hollywood is not.  He's not even a legit number 1 IMO.

Eagles had to give up a 1st and 3rd... but yes, I don't like Brown that much either, too many drops. Not a huge fan of that trade for the Cards.

[Vanimal46]

Kenny Pickett QB 1 off the board. Meh… 

[Danchat]

Weird to see Willis and Jermaine Johnson still on the board at 22. 

[nicksaviking]

Based on how trade values have been, shouldn’t the Vikes be able to trade #32, a used Ford Focus and a fruit cake to move back up and get Johnson?

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

55 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Terrible trade. Awful value. Awful. Terrible. 

Honest question, and I’m just a football rube, but how do you get to “awful” from this? 

“I'd do 12 for 29 and 30 (I think.....but, risky)”

[TheLeviathan]

Just now, nicksaviking said:

Based on how trade values have been, shouldn’t the Vikes be able to trade #32, a used Ford Focus and a fruit cake to move back up and get Johnson?

I am game to trade up for him as well.  Or Lloyd.

[nicksaviking]

2 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

Honest question, and I’m just a football rube, but how do you get to “awful” from this? 

“I'd do 12 for 29 and 30 (I think.....but, risky)”

The Vikings also gave up pick 42.

[TheLeviathan]

Just now, nicksaviking said:

The Vikings also gave up pick 42.

But also got 66.  He's not wrong that the value isn't massively different than that proposal.  Worse, but not massively so.

[nicksaviking]

1 minute ago, TheLeviathan said:

But also got 66.  He's not wrong that the value isn't massively different than that proposal.  Worse, but not massively so.

Just hard to handle because teams moving back in the first round NEVER have to give up value.

[TheLeviathan]

1 minute ago, nicksaviking said:

Just hard to handle because teams moving back in the first round NEVER have to give up value.

I definitely understand the frustration.  Spielman has built up a lot of PTSD on trading down too.

[nicksaviking]

Good lord, I thought they showed a video of a morgue on ESPN.

But it was just the old, pale, half-dead men in the Cowboys draft room.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

It just seems tone-deaf to me..  just draft a player! 

All Spielman ever did was trade down in the draft and subsequently underachieve in the playoffs. You'd think someone like Adofo-Mensah would do their homework on what fans in this market have witnessed prior, and introduce himself by zagging the opposite way instead of zigging the same old way?

[nicksaviking]

Lloyd, Johnson, Wyatt, Dean, Willis, Watson, Mafe. 
 

There, I talked myself into being OK with 7 different players from pretty much all positions.

I should be easy to please.

[TheLeviathan]

1 minute ago, nicksaviking said:

Lloyd, Johnson, Wyatt, Dean, Willis, Watson, Mafe. 
 

There, I talked myself into being OK with 7 different players from pretty much all positions.

I should be easy to please.

You're not wrong though.  Think about it this way....what if this team walks away with Lloyd and Mafe with the two picks?  Is the 46/66 thing a big enough deal to insist they had taken Hamilton?

For me?  No way.  We might land two impact starters instead of one.  You take that deal everytime.

[Vanimal46]

Shocking that Jermaine Johnson is still available. He’s the biggest discrepancy in value so far. Dude was being hyped and mocked to go as high as 4 overall. 

[nicksaviking]

Silly Ravens, why use the 25th pick on the best center in the 2022 draft when the Vikings would have traded them the best center in the 2019 draft for a 7th?

[Danchat]

I think the Jets are moving up (their third 1st!) for Johnson. But there's still plenty of defensive talent left for the Vikings with so many WRs and OLs flying off the board.

[nicksaviking]

I had never heard about Johnson’s “personality” concerns.

[Vanimal46]

Happy for the kid from Eden Prairie. The Jets get the guy they probably considered taking at 10 overall. 

[Vanimal46]

Willis will be there at 32… Has the hate gone too far to take him? 

[TheLeviathan]

Well, there goes Lloyd, would've loved to land him.

[nicksaviking]

Just now, Vanimal46 said:

Willis will be there at 32… Has the hate too far to take him? 

I mean, with Cousins still here, MN would probably be HIS best fit.

Not that he’s necessarily MN’s best fit. 
 

I have long wanted an athletic QB though.