Team leader in Wins? It's Berrios. With 7.

[bighat]

Another mind-boggling pitching stat from the 2021 Twins. Berrios leads the team with 7 wins, he won't be adding to that total. Maeda is 2nd with 6, he won't be getting any more either.

Nobody's going to hit double-digits and I'd be very surprised if anyone passes Berrios at this point. I know wins are considered a meaningless stat by many, but when your team leader in wins at the end of the season only has 7 of them, it signals you've had a really rough year.

Kevin Correia lead the team with 9 wins in a very dismal 2013 season, but I can't recall another year where no Twin even gets to 10.

[Dodecahedron]

1 hour ago, bighat said:

Another mind-boggling pitching stat from the 2021 Twins. Berrios leads the team with 7 wins, he won't be adding to that total. Maeda is 2nd with 6, he won't be getting any more either.

Nobody's going to hit double-digits and I'd be very surprised if anyone passes Berrios at this point. I know wins are considered a meaningless stat by many, but when your team leader in wins at the end of the season only has 7 of them, it signals you've had a really rough year.

Kevin Correia lead the team with 9 wins in a very dismal 2013 season, but I can't recall another year where no Twin even gets to 10.

Yes, but to be fair. this is the Twins way.

The Twins fight song has a lot of lines about hitting home runs, but not one word about pitching.  This is how the new front office aced their job interviews with Pohlad and St. Peter -- they talked about how they agree with every word of the fight song and how this will be their strategy to success.  Prove me wrong!  ?

We’re gonna win Twins, we’re gonna score!
We’re gonna win Twins, watch that baseball soar!
Knock out a homerun, shout a hip-hooray!
Cheer for the Minnesota Twins today!

We’re gonna win Twins, give it our all!
We’ve got the guys who’ll knock the cover off the ball!
Let’s hear it now for the team that came to play!
Cheer for the Minnesota Twins today!

[Brock Beauchamp]

1 hour ago, bighat said:

Nobody's going to hit double-digits and I'd be very surprised if anyone passes Berrios at this point. I know wins are considered a meaningless stat by many, but when your team leader in wins at the end of the season only has 7 of them, it signals you've had a really rough year.

Wins as a stat are pretty useless but good pitchers still accumulate them more often than not.

And the team lead being a total that wouldn't surprise you if a good middle reliever posted that number over a season is... yikes.

[Brock Beauchamp]

Ouch. I just counted and, at a glance, there are 14 pitchers in MLB who have pitched primarily in relief (under five starts total) and have seven or more wins.

FOURTEEN

Ouch.

[Vanimal46]

I’m having flashbacks of the Minnesota Vikings last season when they traded away their leader in sacks after 5 games, and he remained the leader in sacks the rest of the season.

This is a jarring stat, but makes sense when we’ve used 33 pitchers over the course of the season. 

 

[Dodecahedron]

Whether or not wins matter (there is nuance, it's not black and white), any metric where a team is performing outside the norm means something.  

The same with RBIs.  As Bill James argued, RBIs are a poor way to determine who should be awarded the league MVP.  However, if a player has 80 RBIs more or less than others at his position given the same amount of playing time, that means something.  What that means exactly requires more analysis, but identifying numbers outside of the norm is always where you begin an analysis.

[stringer bell]

Caleb Thielbar somehow has six wins (and no defeats) in relief and he has a decent chance to catch Berríos or even pass him. 

[Brandon]

16 hours ago, bighat said:

Another mind-boggling pitching stat from the 2021 Twins. Berrios leads the team with 7 wins, he won't be adding to that total. Maeda is 2nd with 6, he won't be getting any more either.

Nobody's going to hit double-digits and I'd be very surprised if anyone passes Berrios at this point. I know wins are considered a meaningless stat by many, but when your team leader in wins at the end of the season only has 7 of them, it signals you've had a really rough year.

Kevin Correia lead the team with 9 wins in a very dismal 2013 season, but I can't recall another year where no Twin even gets to 10.

Thielbar is leading active Twins with 6 going into September.  I just noticed this as well.  

[old nurse]

With the number of pitchers not pitching 5 innings the first pitcher out of the bullpen can get the win. Lately Thielbar has plenty of chances to get wins

[Rick Blaine]

On 8/30/2021 at 9:54 AM, Brock Beauchamp said:

Ouch. I just counted and, at a glance, there are 14 pitchers in MLB who have pitched primarily in relief (under five starts total) and have seven or more wins.

FOURTEEN

Ouch.

Bill Campbell went 17-5 in 1976 for the Twins. 78 games all in relief.  And he pitched in 167 2/3 innings!  Different era. 

[stringer bell]

Looking back through the years, the fewest number of wins for the leader in wins for the Twins has been nine (1981, 2011, 2013 and 2016) except for the COVID year (2020). 1981 was also a shortened schedule due to a work stoppage.