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[Otto von Ballpark]

Also mentioned in the ex-Twins thread, Nick Anderson has 12 Ks vs only 1 BB and 1 run allowed in 5.2 IP for the Marlins so far. Also in low leverage, though (maybe the Marlins don't have a lot of high leverage innings?).

[jorgenswest]

It is going to take a long time before stats normalize after today’s wind blown 15 home run game in Rochester.

 

Romero’s ERA will not be indicative at all of how he has pitched this year. It will look good for some of the batters though.

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

It is going to take a long time before stats normalize after today’s wind blown 15 home run game in Rochester.

I assumed this was hyperbole. But it's not!

 

https://www.milb.com/gameday/ironpigs-vs-red-wings/2019/04/13/575862#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=box,game=575862

[jkcarew]

 

It is going to take a long time before stats normalize after today’s wind blown 15 home run game in Rochester.

Romero’s ERA will not be indicative at all of how he has pitched this year. It will look good for some of the batters though.

Agreed on the need to take the stats with a grain of salt going forward for a while.

 

But, lest anyone think that Romero was anything but really bad in this appearance: he gave up one-third of the home run total, and retired 3 batters. Here was his sequence, starting from entering with 2 outs in the 4th...

 

Caught stealing (to end the 4th), 5th: HR, HR, K (called), wind-blown single, HR, HBP, HBP, K (swinging), WP, ground-out. Even if the HR's should have all stayed in the part, that's not great.

 

 

[jorgenswest]

Agreed on the need to take the stats with a grain of salt going forward for a while.

 

But, lest anyone think that Romero was anything but really bad in this appearance: he gave up one-third of the home run total, and retired 3 batters. Here was his sequence, starting from entering with 2 outs in the 4th...

 

Caught stealing (to end the 4th), 5th: HR, HR, K (called), wind-blown single, HR, HBP, HBP, K (swinging), WP, ground-out. Even if the HR's should have all stayed in the part, that's not great.

How many of those home runs should have been fly ball outs?

[jkcarew]

 

How many of those home runs should have been fly ball outs?

Get it. But nobody else on the staff gave up a home run for every out they recorded...or even close. Then there were the HBP's/WP's. Wind or no wind...wasn't an outing that screamed "ready to come up any day now".

[USAFChief]

No, I expect to get 7 or 8 out of my starters in most of my wins. I was using 6 innings to prove the point that you don't need 8 Riveras in your bullpen, but instead need 3 really good arms, 2 guys a notch under them, and then fill in guys. Some of the wins will be like Tuesday when you don't need to use any of your stud arms because you put up 14. There's a certain segment of people on this thread that act like the good bullpens out there are running 8 all stars out there. That's not the case. If May, Rogers, and Parker are legit late inning guys, and especially if Romero settles in to a bullpen role and comes up as well, you're in good shape. My point in all of my posts on this thread is that the starters are putting the bullpen in a position to fail by "forcing" Rocco to use his mop up guys in spots they aren't meant to be in there for. If you don't believe in Rogers, May, and Parker then the bullpen is a major problem. But if you think those guys will come in and shut it down 85%+ of the time you're in a good spot.

 

Most major league teams look to win series. So you're talking 2 out of 3 or 3 out of 4 games. 3 shut down guys and 1 or 2 guys who can fill in on a less frequent basis is plenty for getting that done. I don't know what some of the people on here want the bullpen to be. $12+ mil for each of 8 shut down guys? I mean be realistic with what major league bullpens look like.

 

This entire article and thread is Example A in small sample size, 1 bad early season showing non-sense. If you want to complain about pitching complain about the fact that Berrios is the only trustworthy starter we have so far. That's the hole in this team currently, not the bullpen.

we are up to at least three bad early season outings now.