Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Below is the link to the website for the Minnesota (local) March for Science to coincide with the national march in D.C. to be held April 22nd - Earth Day. Details are just coming together. There is an active Facebook page which I'll be happy to invite interested people to. There are doctors, lawyers, biological, social, and physical scientists, engineers, historians and other people who believe critical thinking is one of the best tools we can muster. Please consider joining in. With rational thinking in some serious peril around this nation, we figure it's time to say 'enough of this stuff.' Goals: The March for Science is a diverse, nonpartisan group that defends and celebrates publicly funded and publicly accessible science as a foundation of American freedom and prosperity. Science guides nearly every aspect of our lives and it is critical that political leaders and policymakers support scientific research and incorporate science into their decision making. https://www.mnsciencemarch.com Thanks!
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 1, 2017 Author Posted February 1, 2017 And for the many of you who don't live in Minnesota, search for 'March for Science (your state)' in your search engine of choice, and you should get the list of resources available there. If you don't enter a state you will get the main page for the Washington, D.C. event.
Bark's Lounge Verified Member Posted February 2, 2017 Posted February 2, 2017 Science guides nearly every aspect of our lives and it is critical that political leaders and policymakers support scientific research and incorporate science into their decision making.Correct.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 8, 2017 Author Posted February 8, 2017 There's an organizational meeting this Saturday, Feb 11th at 11:00 AM at Blegan Hall, Room 140 on the UofM campus. Please come if interested.
Doomtints Verified Member Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 I have been following this group on facebook and have not been impressed by some of the posts. Also, they remind me of this, where a group of elite scientists decide they are smarter than everybody else and decide they should be running things. http://www.shannonsullivan.com/drwho/serials/4a.html Mind you, I understand that these days the least fortunate citizens can't seem to vote responsibly and there is an urge by smarter people to try to take charge. But if we are not inclusive we are on the wrong path.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 10, 2017 Author Posted February 10, 2017 I guess that's one of the reasons I'm participating. To effect changes in attitudes. I'd encourage others to do the same. Edit effect/affect; some days I really hate English grammar.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 I guess that's one of the reasons I'm participating. To effect changes in attitudes. I'd encourage others to do the same. Edit effect/affect; some days I really hate English grammar.That one always stumbles me up, too. But I'm clear on there, their and they're; also to and too.
Doomtints Verified Member Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 That one always stumbles me up, too. But I'm clear on there, their and they're; also to and too. what about funk and jive
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 Can we also make this the 'science' thread? A full moon, snow moon, lunar eclipse and a comet walk into a bar ... http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/snow-moon-lunar-eclipse?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=atlas-page
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 11, 2017 Author Posted February 11, 2017 This was designed by one of the participants, and caught my eye.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 11, 2017 Author Posted February 11, 2017 Can we also make this the 'science' thread? A full moon, snow moon, lunar eclipse and a comet walk into a bar ... http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/snow-moon-lunar-eclipse?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=atlas-pageThe skies are overcast, so no viewing from here.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 11, 2017 Author Posted February 11, 2017 That one always stumbles me up, too. But I'm clear on there, their and they're; also to and too.I know, but I used to teach ESL, and really should know better.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 The ‘March for Science’ is gaining mainstream momentum
Bark's Lounge Verified Member Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 The ‘March for Science’ is gaining mainstream momentumAwesome! It is necessary. Although it is far from my area of expertise, it is the closest thing I have to religion. This is Craig's thread and I don't want to muddy it with my opinions off of the topic, but it might take a paragraph or two or more. DoomTints made a comment about people in the sub standard educated standing category and how the intellectual left might come off as bullies and arrogant elites and turn against them with a protest vote - at least that is how I read it. I know where DoomTints is coming from and you don't want to isolate them and turn them against you, especially in these times. I grew up in a low middle class family, in certain situations very poor, depending in who I lived with. It is true that people living in these situations cling to religion and have no interest in gaining critical knowledge. One would hope that every person has an intellectual curiosity that leads them to bigger and better things and doors that are yet to be opened. I don't know how one can grow without that. I have nothing to fear anymore because everything is on the plate and let it ride. Uneducated and poor people don't get a free pass this time around. From a family source I know that their friends voted Trump because of the fake news. These people are reliant on their phones and can barely afford them, and believe everything they read. Talk about technology backfire... and the fake news. It's a disaster. No one should have any sympathy for these people.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 11, 2017 Author Posted February 11, 2017 This is going to be a tough sell no matter what; that's obvious. Some things, particularly in the biological sciences, run so contrary to what many have been raised on the jump is enormous, maybe too much. I can certainly sympathize to the degree it takes to turn my worldview around and see things their way. Vestigial memories of a (surprisingly progressive) Catholic upbringing at least make it possible. I don't know how we're going to do it, the crossovers with music, architecture, and the other arts may be the best way to give people a sense of the emotional, as well as the intellectual, pleasures of science. That's how the ancients did it, and maybe they were on to something.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 I think science needs a voice again, like with Sagan. I think Tyson is that, but somehow it's not sticking enough. I'm hoping with Nye returning to tv, that helps. But, science needs to be told more as a story. I guess all the engineers and scientists could just turn off their machines for a day, and remind people how much science matters....
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 I think science needs a voice again, like with Sagan. I think Tyson is that, but somehow it's not sticking enough. I'm hoping with Nye returning to tv, that helps. But, science needs to be told more as a story. I guess all the engineers and scientists could just turn off their machines for a day, and remind people how much science matters....I'd expect there would be quite a number of deaths resulting from that.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 I'd expect there would be quite a number of deaths resulting from that. clearly I wasn't serious......
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 clearly I wasn't serious......I know.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 Below is the link to the website for the Minnesota (local) March for Science to coincide with the national march in D.C. to be held April 22nd - Earth Day. Details are just coming together. There is an active Facebook page which I'll be happy to invite interested people to. There are doctors, lawyers, biological, social, and physical scientists, engineers, historians and other people who believe critical thinking is one of the best tools we can muster. Please consider joining in. With rational thinking in some serious peril around this nation, we figure it's time to say 'enough of this stuff.' Goals: The March for Science is a diverse, nonpartisan group that defends and celebrates publicly funded and publicly accessible science as a foundation of American freedom and prosperity. Science guides nearly every aspect of our lives and it is critical that political leaders and policymakers support scientific research and incorporate science into their decision making. https://www.mnsciencemarch.com Thanks!Awesome, great work! I know that you and I disagree on my scorching hot baseball takes!!1! But wanted to say what you are doing with this is admirable and commendable, keep up the good fight in Minnesota!
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 Awesome, great work! I know that you and I disagree on my scorching hot baseball takes!!1! But wanted to say what you are doing with this is admirable and commendable, keep up the good fight in Minnesota!Thanks. Some things transcend even the discipline of baseball (shudder).
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 18, 2017 Author Posted February 18, 2017 If you don't or are unable to march (I'll be using a cane) you can still scratch your science itch by participating in one of the crowdsourcing projects like: Study the bird population and search for effects of climate change on the species:http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2017/0217/Great-Backyard-Birdcount-begins-Feb.-17-how-citizen-scientists-can-participate?cmpid=FB Help NASA search for a predicted (by calculation) new planet:http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6747 Or a wide variety of other projects:https://www.zooniverse.org I've volunteered to search for Near Earth Objects before and now am hunting for comets. Cool stuff if that sort of thing turns your crank.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted February 19, 2017 Posted February 19, 2017 See you all on the 22nd. (PSA: the Twins host the Tigers at 1 PM that Saturday afternoon; the march is not scheduled to go much past 2 PM)
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 22, 2017 Author Posted February 22, 2017 This is a good take. We need to reach people first and then worry about the government. http://www.nature.com/news/researchers-should-reach-beyond-the-science-bubble-1.21514?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted February 22, 2017 Posted February 22, 2017 SCIENCE!! NASA announced that they have discovered the first known system of 7 Earth-size planets around 1 single star. 3 of them they think is habitable, and all 7 could have water on them. It's only 40 light years away! Here we come!!
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 22, 2017 Author Posted February 22, 2017 SCIENCE!! NASA announced that they have discovered the first known system of 7 Earth-size planets around 1 single star. 3 of them they think is habitable, and all 7 could have water on them. It's only 40 light years away! Here we come!! Here's some stories on that. https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6756http://cosmicdiary.org/fmarchis/2017/02/22/wonderful-potentially-habitable-worlds-around-trappist-1/ I was off drinking margaritas so missed the live broadcast. Just think, Van, your grandkids may be planning this trip.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted February 23, 2017 Posted February 23, 2017 Here's some stories on that.https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6756http://cosmicdiary.org/fmarchis/2017/02/22/wonderful-potentially-habitable-worlds-around-trappist-1/I was off drinking margaritas so missed the live broadcast. Just think, Van, your grandkids may be planning this trip.That would be mind.boggling, truly. Anything is possible, especially now that Space X has found out a way to land a rocket ship...
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 26, 2017 Author Posted February 26, 2017 Not my original work, but a nice statement.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted February 28, 2017 Author Posted February 28, 2017 It's getting real: SpaceX is planning a crewed circumlunar mission for next year! http://www.spacex.com/news/2017/02/27/spacex-send-privately-crewed-dragon-spacecraft-beyond-moon-next-year
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