TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 We're talking about as a mascot right? Obviously the answer is "yes". GCTF 1
jharaldson Verified Member Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 I think that the number of teams that have passed on Gardy speaks volumes about what MLB opinion on him is: Diamondback – Chip HaleCubs – Joe MaddonDodgers – TBDMarlins – Don MattinglyMarlins – Dan JenningsBrewers – Craig CounsellPhillies – Pete MackaninPadres – Andy GreenNationals – Dusty BakerAstros – AJ HinchMariners – Scott ServaisRays – Kevin CashRangers – Jeff Banister That is 13 times by 12 separate organizations that teams have looked at Gardy and said no. So no, I would not hire him and that opinion seems to be shared by MLB management other than Terry Ryan.
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 "That is 13 times by 12 separate organizations that teams have looked at Gardy and said no.So no, I would not hire him and that opinion seems to be shared by MLB management other than Terry Ryan." TR did fire him. Just sayin... Managing anything is a combination of analysis and people persuasion. Sure Gardy is weak on the data analysis and his tactics suffered for it, but talent wins way more games than tactics. Gardy lost his ability to persuade people when the losing got him down. I think he can regain that ability that he showed very capable of in the first part of his career. Yeah he's folksy and I find that annoying, but he's not my manager, he's a baseball manager. And I think he can make a good ML manager again.
Dantes929 Verified Member Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 I think that the number of teams that have passed on Gardy speaks volumes about what MLB opinion on him is: Diamondback – Chip HaleCubs – Joe MaddonDodgers – TBDMarlins – Don MattinglyMarlins – Dan JenningsBrewers – Craig CounsellPhillies – Pete MackaninPadres – Andy GreenNationals – Dusty BakerAstros – AJ HinchMariners – Scott ServaisRays – Kevin CashRangers – Jeff Banister That is 13 times by 12 separate organizations that teams have looked at Gardy and said no. So no, I would not hire him and that opinion seems to be shared by MLB management other than Terry Ryan.Wasn't it known that he was going to take a year off which makes that list a bit misleading? If Green was hired last that meant he was passed up by 11 organizations before that so it only takes one to change everything.. Gardy was 2nd in the MOY voting 5 times and MOY once. Not coincidentally it coincides with when the Twins won pennants. I don't think the game has passed him by. Royals didn't win the WS with perfect lineups or defensive shifts or advanced metrics. Or did they? I really didn't research it.I often defended Gardy because he was not the reason they won when they won and he was not the reason they lost when they lost. I would still defend him but no I wouldn't hire him. I just don't like him that much.
formerly33 Verified Member Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 I'd hire Gardy before I hired Dusty Baker, I know that much....says everyone but Mike Rizzo. And by the way, your use of tenses makes it look like you'd hire both. Gardy first.
Danchat Verified Member Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 After seeing how many managers got fired mid-season lately, I wouldn't be shocked if Gardy got a job mid-season. Looking at you, Tigers.
jharaldson Verified Member Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Wasn't it known that he was going to take a year off which makes that list a bit misleading? Gardenhire hired an agent on April 24th this year and was quoted "willing to consider virtually any position" which would mean that for certain all positions filled since then rejected an interested Gardenhire. Dodgers – TBDMarlins – Don MattinglyMarlins – Dan JenningsBrewers – Craig CounsellPhillies – Pete MackaninPadres – Andy GreenNationals – Dusty BakerMariners – Scott Servais http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2015/04/24/ron-gardenhire-has-hired-an-agent-to-find-him-another-managing-gig/ I would also say that I am not aware of any quote where he said he would turn down a managerial position if offered last offseason. I can only find quotes where he rejected working for the Twins in 2015 in any capacity. http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/02/23/ryan-says-gardenhire-welcome-to-work-for-twins/
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 "Would You Hire Ron Gardenhire?" Are we talking about home improvement?From Lowe's? Home Depot? Menard's?But Gardenhire's experience is only with small-market hardware stores:http://puckettspond.com/2012/03/06/the-best-actually-worst-twins-radio-commercials/
sane Provisional Member Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 But Gardenhire's experience is only with small-market hardware stores:http://puckettspond.com/2012/03/06/the-best-actually-worst-twins-radio-commercials/I needed him as a manual laborer, and those guys don't usually hang out at the "local" hardware store. Otto von Ballpark 1
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