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What's the Roster and the Lineup On August 1 Forward and How do We Get There? Here's My Plan. What's Yours?


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We're heading toward the trade deadline and things are not going well, to put it mildly.  Where does everyone think we'll be on August 1 and how will we get there? My view is that we should be playing for 2026 and beyond at this point. The current iteration of this team is unlikely to make the playoffs and very unlikely to do anything if they sneak into the postseason. We're also not trading for an impact vet with the team up for sale. I say we pivot to see what we have by trading vets for prospects and giving opportunity to others. Here are the steps:

Trade for Prospects - Castro, Paddack, Bader, Coulombe, and France. The return won't be great except maybe for the first two, but none of these guys are part of the 2026 team. I would try to re-sign Castro but I don't think he'll sign on the cusp of free agency and it's hard to commit to future payroll with the team up for sale. All of the trades are for prospects and I want as much quality as possible so I trade for better guys farther away if we can. None of the prospects we get are on the MLB roster until at least 2026. You could also substitute Stewart for Coulombe but we need to keep one and trade one. 

DFA/Use as Trade Add-Ons - Clemens, Wentz, Vasquez, Keirsey (or send him back to AAA). I don't think any team will want these guys but who knows, they might go as part of a package with one of the guys above. Catching is always hard to find so maybe some one will a want or need a catcher badly enough to give up something for Vasquez? Ahhh, probably not.  

Players back from Il - Matthews, Keaschall. Both are supposed to return in July so I assume they will do so, have their rehab at AAA and be back with the Twins. 

Up From AAA - Noah Cardenas (C), Travis Adams (RP/long man), Austin Martin (OF), Emmanuel Rodriguez (CF), Anthony Prato (UTL), Pierson Ohl (RP). This is pretty much all we got at AAA. Miranda isn't hitting at all, Fitzgerald is 31 and not in our long term plans, and we saw what the team thinks of McCusker.  I added Emma because he plays CF but could see McCusker with Martin the backup CF. It's not great if Buxton goes done but we're totally screwed for the year if Buxton goes down any way.  I thought about Eeles for the UTL spot but went with Prato because he plays SS and Eeles doesn't. Besides Prato just turned 27 and if he's going to make the Show, now is the time. Eeles is only 25 and just came back from injury. 

Lineup on August 1 going forward:

Keaschall - 1B

Buxton - CF

Larnach or Wallner - RF/LF/DH 

Lewis - 3B

Correa - SS

Lee - 2B

Wallner or Larnach -  RF/DH

Jeffers or Cardenas - C

Martin/Rodriguez - DH/OF 

Bench (all play 2-3 days a week) - Julien (1B/2B), Jeffers/Cardenas (C), Martin/Rodriguez (OF), Prato (SS/3B).

Starting Pitchers:

Ryan

Ober

Matthews

Festa

SWR

Lopez takes over for whoever is injured or not performing when he comes back. If all are healthy and performing, low man goes to the bullpen. 

Bullpen:

Duran (closer)

Jax (high leverage/8th inning)

Varland (high leverage/7th inning)

Topa

Stewart

Adams

Sands

Ohl

Funderburk

Is this a great roster? Nope. Is this as good or maybe better than what we have now? maybe. Does this have a better chance of setting us up for 20026 and beyond while hopefully replenishing the farm? Absolutely. Let's find out what we got. This is the way to do it, IMHO.

What do you guys think?  

 

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LA Vikes Fan

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You got it right in terms of probabilities. The most likely result is little if any movement at the deadline. I actually think trading Paddack is the most likely move, particularly if Ober is feeling better. Maybe Castro gets traded, maybe France released, but that's about it. No trades of any other pitching and absolutely no trade of Duran, Jax, or Ryan.  This is actually a logical way of operating, particularly if you're talking to Castro and Bader about re-signing in the offseason and think you can get that done. Most importantly, this is the best awy to operate if you're selling the team and want it to look as good as possible for the sale. You don't sell your house while re-doing the foundation or gutting the interior, you do that first and then you sell your house. 

I still think my view above is the way to go. Don't let your expiring assets just walk at the end of the year, get something for them or re-sign them so they aren't expiring assets. The opportunity cost of not trading a Castro, Paddack, or Bader and then not re-signing them is not worth the chances of this team making the playoffs and actually contending. 

Chris Hove

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Keaschall - 1B    Sabato

Buxton - CF

Larnach or Wallner - RF/LF/DH 

Lewis - 3B

Correa - SS

Lee - 2B

Wallner or Larnach -  RF/DH

Jeffers or Cardenas - C

Martin/Rodriguez - DH/OF Keaschall, Martin, Rodriguez

Bench (all play 2-3 days a week) - Julien Keaschall (1B/2B), Jeffers/Cardenas (C), Martin/Rodriguez (OF), Prato (SS/3B).

Starting Pitchers:

Ryan

Ober

Matthews

Festa

SWR

Lopez takes over for whoever is injured or not performing when they return. If all are healthy and performing, the low man goes to the bullpen. 

Bullpen:

Duran (closer)

Jax (high leverage/8th inning)

Varland (high leverage/7th inning)

Topa Coulumbe

Stewart

Adams 

Sands Lawyerson

This is what I think they should do, assuming Bader, Clemens, Keirsey Jr., and Castro are no longer with the team. Sabato at 1B because he's a natural first baseman and he's a good fit. Keaschall at 2B because we need him, and I don't think the Twins are very high on Julien, despite what he's doing at Triple-A. 

Martin is very intriguing considering the position flexibility, and he's playing well with the Saints. I love E-Rod, but yet again, he's injured, so the Twins might be hesitant to give him a shot right now.

I'm out on Topa and think Coulumbe will stay on the team, being he's the only lefty out of the bullpen, and also the Twins' lack of confidence in Funderburke. Cole Sands is struggling, so I think he needs to be replaced by Kody Lawyerson. Although he's hurt right now, I would like to see him get a chance to pitch in low-leverage situations.

LA Vikes Fan

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Well, now that we are 9 games post ASB with a record of 3-6, I think the pathway is even more clear. Trade all of the expiring contracts for prospects unless you intend to re-sign Bader. Frankly, the luster has worn off of Castro for me and I would trade him without hesitation for a decent prospect. Castro is a great UTL on a good team playing 3-4 days a week; he is mediocre every day player on a bad team. Guess what he's doing for us? The rest of them are not back next year so get what you can for them now. 

This recent stretch of bad play also puts me solidly in the trade Jax camp. Maybe you can get a top 100 prospect for him, maybe that, a 150ish type in AA, and a blocked guy in AAA for him and Castro together. No real reason to keep him this year and I think he play goes down from here. 

I'm still very much in the don't trade Duran group and absolutely don't trade Ryan camp. You have to have good bones for a soft rebuild. Those two are part of those bones. Do not trade them. 

LA Vikes Fan

Posted

Well here we are on July 31 and the sell-off is well under way. SO far, Duran, Stewart, Bader, Cploumbe and, of al people, Correa are out of here. Who replaces them?

LA Vikes Fan

Posted

I started this so I guess I'll end it. The sell-off appears complete. So who is on the Twins MBLB roster tomorrow? Here's my take:

SP - Ryan, Ober, SWR, Matthews, Taj Bradley or Mick Abel (with Lopez and Festa on the IL). Still a pretty strong group.

RP - This oughtta be fun. I'm guessing this:

Sands, Topa, Funderburk, Bradley or Abel, Adams, Ohl (if he can be recalled), with Prielipp and Peredes from AA? Hell, your guess is as good as and probably better than mine.  

C - Jeffers/Vasquez

IB - Clemens

2B - Keschall

SS - Lee

3B - Lewis

LF - Larnach/Martin platoon

CF - Buxton

RF - Wallner

4th/5th OF - Outman

UTL/Bench bats - Eeles, Julien.

WOw, this could get ugly. 

JD-TWINS

Posted

12 minutes ago, LA VIkes Fan said:

I started this so I guess I'll end it. The sell-off appears complete. So who is on the Twins MBLB roster tomorrow? Here's my take:

SP - Ryan, Ober, SWR, Matthews, Taj Bradley or Mick Abel (with Lopez and Festa on the IL). Still a pretty strong group.

RP - This oughtta be fun. I'm guessing this:

Sands, Topa, Funderburk, Bradley or Abel, Adams, Ohl (if he can be recalled), with Prielipp and Peredes from AA? Hell, your guess is as good as and probably better than mine.  

C - Jeffers/Vasquez

IB - Clemens

2B - Keschall

SS - Lee

3B - Lewis

LF - Larnach/Martin platoon

CF - Buxton

RF - Wallner

4th/5th OF - Outman

UTL/Bench bats - Eeles, Julien.

WOw, this could get ugly. 

Were they able to trade Kiersey? I don’t see his name here and he’s started 2 of 3……..I hope he got thrown into a deal!! Sorry DeShawn but you’re not the answer.

Buxton may get some extended rest through last couple months……mental health days!!

Jax for Bradley - OK All the others, OK. WHY Varland though????

tony&rodney

Posted

17 minutes ago, LA VIkes Fan said:

I started this so I guess I'll end it. The sell-off appears complete. So who is on the Twins MBLB roster tomorrow? Here's my take:

SP - Ryan, Ober, SWR, Matthews, Taj Bradley or Mick Abel (with Lopez and Festa on the IL). Still a pretty strong group.

RP - This oughtta be fun. I'm guessing this:

Sands, Topa, Funderburk, Bradley or Abel, Adams, Ohl (if he can be recalled), with Prielipp and Peredes from AA? Hell, your guess is as good as and probably better than mine.  

C - Jeffers/Vasquez

IB - Clemens

2B - Keschall

SS - Lee

3B - Lewis

LF - Larnach/Martin platoon

CF - Buxton

RF - Wallner

4th/5th OF - Outman

UTL/Bench bats - Eeles, Julien.

WOw, this could get ugly. 

The pitchers may all report injuries with those guys in the corner outfield.

JD-TWINS

Posted

I guess you throw Abel & Bradley into the fire and work on the fixes in off-season & next Spring?? Gotta have somebody in PEN.

May be a couple dFA’s available to throw relief😉😉

Gotta watch Prielipp’s innings……PEN is seriously blown up!

LA Vikes Fan

Posted

2 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

The pitchers may all report injuries with those guys in the corner outfield.

I'm a little surprised that Larnach didn't get traded. We also have to add Roden into the OF mix. He hasn't hit much in 100 MLB ABs, but with a  wRC+ is 150 in AAA, there's no reason to leave him there. Maybe Buxton in CF, Outman/Martin in LF, Wallner in RF, Roden as a 5th OF, and Larnach at 1B? I'm legitimately clueless on how you put this together to field a team. 

tony&rodney

Posted

21 minutes ago, LA VIkes Fan said:

I'm a little surprised that Larnach didn't get traded. We also have to add Roden into the OF mix. He hasn't hit much in 100 MLB ABs, but with a  wRC+ is 150 in AAA, there's no reason to leave him there. Maybe Buxton in CF, Outman/Martin in LF, Wallner in RF, Roden as a 5th OF, and Larnach at 1B? I'm legitimately clueless on how you put this together to field a team. 

I was more stunned by the Varland deal than anything, but equally stunning is that nobody would agree to take either Wallner or Larnach. The Twins cannot keep putting pure DH players in the outfield. I would rather they play anywhere in the infield where it is only a one base oops, couldn't reach that one. I have not seen either Roden or Mendez play but reports are they are best at DH. When a team trades for pitchers it would be nice to consider that someone needs to catch those balls put in play.

It will be really interesting to see who wears the road uniforms in Cleveland on Friday night. 

Original_JB

Posted

Guess it's time to pull out the ol' "Get To Know Them!" giveaway Tee from 1998 and browse StubHub for some seriously discounted tix.

insagt1

Posted

Twins have lost their mind. They simply gave away Correa and Jax for basically a couple of Topps baseball cards. They dumped 5heir closer and a very effective Coulombe. Bader and France were mainstays. Team has just told the fans you may as well stay home now because we have totally given up. Join the Orioles who have decided to collect low minor league pitching suspects and forfeit the rest of this season ,(-perhaps). Do I hate what Twins have done? Yeah probably. Draft picks and lower A and AA pitchers are a total risk. Others will disagree and say this was a great day and maybe by 2028 Twins could contend again. Who knows really. Bottom line after today...NFL opens in a few weeks and hockey training camp isn't too far off.

Patzky

Posted

2 hours ago, purplesoldier4u said:

Did we get an athletic player at all?

No and not an Athletics player either.

 

3 hours ago, LA VIkes Fan said:

I started this so I guess I'll end it. The sell-off appears complete. So who is on the Twins MBLB roster tomorrow? Here's my take:

SP - Ryan, Ober, SWR, Matthews, Taj Bradley or Mick Abel (with Lopez and Festa on the IL). Still a pretty strong group.

RP - This oughtta be fun. I'm guessing this:

Sands, Topa, Funderburk, Bradley or Abel, Adams, Ohl (if he can be recalled), with Prielipp and Peredes from AA? Hell, your guess is as good as and probably better than mine.  

C - Jeffers/Vasquez

IB - Clemens

2B - Keschall

SS - Lee

3B - Lewis

LF - Larnach/Martin platoon

CF - Buxton

RF - Wallner

4th/5th OF - Outman

UTL/Bench bats - Eeles, Julien.

WOw, this could get ugly. 

Just saw that Eeles played  in LF in tonight's Saints game at Toledo.

LA Vikes Fan

Posted

Interesting. He’s been playing some OF. Any word yet on who’s coming up. I think we are at 7 open roster spots. 

DJL44

Posted

Buxton's still on the IL. Keaschall isn't done with his rehab.

My guess at tomorrow's roster

OF - Larnach, Outman, Wallner (Martin, Keirsey)

IF - Lewis, Lee, Julien, Clemens (Gasper, Fitzgerald)

C - Jeffers (Vazquez)

SP - Ryan, Ober, SWR, Matthews, Bradley

RP - Sands, Topa, Tonkin, Funderburk, Davis, ???, ???, ???

Roden could replace Martin, though that would make everyone in the outfield LHB.

Bruce Lysne1

Posted

I know i will not see this piss poorly managed team in the world series ever again in my lifetime. 

LA Vikes Fan

Posted

Well, the moves were made and its a mixed bag. Some of promoting the youngish (Martin, Julien, Adams, Ohl), some of playing guys not in the long term plan (Erasmo Ramirez, Fitzgerald, Urena).  Also tells us who among those recently arriving the team thinks are ready now (Alan Roden). 

OF - Martin, Roden, Wallner, Larnach, Keirsey (Buxton on IL)

IF - Lewis, Lee, Julien, Clemens, Fitzgerald. Gaspar  

C- Jeffers, Vasquez

SP - Ryan, SWR, Matthews, ??

BP - Sands, Topa, Tonkin, Ohl, Adams, Davis, Ramirez, Funderburk, Urena.

Still one short. Have to figure Ober is activated to pitch tomorrow or early next week for one of the TBA games. Hopefully Urena and Ramirez are BP candidates only and won't get a start. I would love to see Abel in the rotation or at least Taj Bradley starting next week. BTW, where is Keaschall? I did look and it looks like he's 6-32 in this 10 games or so, maybe needs time to get back into a rhythm.  


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