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TV--While the details are not known, the Twins have re-upped with Diamond/Bally for another (and final season). I am one that has been able to watch every Twins game, which is the main reason I have the "Sports Pack" on DirecTV. The reported amount on the television contract is 85% of what the Twins received in 2023, a reduction of perhaps $8M. The prospects for a better number in 2025 are not great unless the Twis profit greatly from streaming. While I am relieved the Twins will be available on TV and I don't have to do anything to see a great majority of their games, it seems to me the long-term outlook is still plenty cloudy. Rights fees are going to fall, perhaps precipitously, and the cost to subscribers on cable is almost certain to jump. How much, a no-blackout streaming contract would generate is open to questions from all sides? How much will the teams get? How much will the streamer charge to subscribe? What are fans going to pay and will they be willing to pay what is charged? It has entered my mind that if things go sideways, overall revenue will drop sharply to the point that players salaries will go down. IMHO, the cost for medium talent is out of hand--give Shohei and Judge their money, but don't pay obscene amounts to okay to good players. Arbitration season contracts bear this out, as well.

Injuries--Probably fifteen (maybe more) teams can credibly say today (within days of Spring Training) if they have good health, they will make the post season. I would say that includes the Twins. In 2022, the Twins used the IL second most in MLB. Last year, they were sixth. The difference for the Twins from 2022 to 2023 is that they had major league players available when other players went down. They were six or seven deep in competent starting pitchers and had major league ready players available for position player injuries. Bailey Ober and Louie Varland filled in well and guys like Donovan Solano, Kyle Farmer and Michael A Taylor met or exceeded expectations and got plenty of playing time. Royce Lewis, Matt Wallner and Edouard Julien got their chances as well and cemented themselves into the Twins' 2024 plans. This year, the Twins have added on veteran, Carlos Santana, to the position player mix, but Solano and Taylor are gone and Jorge Polanco was traded. Reinforcements would come from the same system that produced Lewis, Wallner and Julien. Last year, Polanco and Kirilloff started the season on the IL, this year there is no such carryover, but there is less proven depth to cover absences due to injuries, especially the starting pitching rotation. On the subject of injuries, I've seen TD posters question the recoveries of Byron Buxton, Alex Kirilloff, Jose Miranda and newcomer Anthony DeSlafani. and Josh Staumont. Who knows? Maybe none of them will be ready, but there's no evidence either way that they won't be healthy on Wednesday. We shall see. Personally, I doubt the recovery of DeSclafani the most. 

Bullpen--In contrast to the position player possibilities and the starting rotation, the Twins have added a bunch of veteran relief arms, most of them with options. Josh Staumont, Jay Jackson, Justin Topa and Zack Weiss were added to the bullpen and all are over 30, all under team control for multiple years and all but Jackson have options. They have additional pitchers with big league experience on minor league contracts. I'd say they have redundancy in the bullpen. They shouldn't have much hesitancy to option any of these guys and someone should be effective. The floor of the bullpen has been lifted considerably.

Carlos Santana--Yeah, he's 38 and he hasn't been a truly above-average hitter for five years, but he had 23 homers and 86 RBI last year. I can't see a huge falloff in 2024 from this guy. He's historically better against left handed pitching and his floor with the 2024 Twins is as a platoon partner for Alex Kirilloff. Injuries will probably give him plenty of at-bats against right handers. It is an open question if another, younger option might be a better fit. If Santana crashes and burns, I would hope the Twins can cashier him rather than keep him on the roster all season. 

 

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Fatbat

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Santana seems like another ageless wonder. After the last two years of excessive injuries, we are set up for another deep playoff run if the injury bug is finally gone.

tony&rodney

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It seems quite possible that only the catcher position will see more potential injury concerns than last season. Hopefully Camargo fills in adequately if called on. None of Kirilloff, Julien, Correa, Lewis, or Farmer played full injury-free ball and we should expect a ton more at bats for this group as a whole this season. Buxton is always doubtful but he can't be worse off than last year. Kepler missed a pile of games and Wallner was called up later. I believe the offense should be a major improvement for the Twins.

While I'm bullish on the starting pitching staff, there may be some concern by a few people. I would leave the top five alone and fill in with DeSclafani, SWR, Festa, and others as needed. The bullpen should be deep.

The 2024 team should be better than last year's team but the competition will be stronger which should result in a much tighter AL Central.

The media money? I wish everyone had access. If games cannot be watched by a ton of people or streamed, a whole group of people have no way to find an interest in the Twins. This seems like it could be a future problem. So let the Pohlads keep the money from their deal this year but something that pushes the team and MLB to a wide/full audience needs to be found starting next season. 

arby58

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10 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

The 2024 team should be better than last year's team but the competition will be stronger which should result in a much tighter AL Central.

CBS Sports came out with their 2024 power rankings, and they don't think much of the rest of the division. They place the Twins 10th - followed (from a distance) by the Tigers (23), Guardians (24), Royals (26), and White Sox (28). If those predictions would hold true (doubt they will all be that bad), it might well be the worst division ever in terms of overall winning percentage.

PECOTA and FanGraphs agree with you that the race will be tighter, and both predict the same order but different numbers of wins. They also have the division considerably better than CBS (PECOTA wins listed first, FanGraphs second):

Twins 89, 85
Guardians 83, 81
Tigers 75, 80
Royals 70, 75
White Sox 66, 67

I'd be fine with 89 wins and disappointed with 85.

tony&rodney

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18 minutes ago, arby58 said:

CBS Sports came out with their 2024 power rankings, and they don't think much of the rest of the division. They place the Twins 10th - followed (from a distance) by the Tigers (23), Guardians (24), Royals (26), and White Sox (28). If those predictions would hold true (doubt they will all be that bad), it might well be the worst division ever in terms of overall winning percentage.

PECOTA and FanGraphs agree with you that the race will be tighter, and both predict the same order but different numbers of wins. They also have the division considerably better than CBS (PECOTA wins listed first, FanGraphs second):

Twins 89, 85
Guardians 83, 81
Tigers 75, 80
Royals 70, 75
White Sox 66, 67

I'd be fine with 89 wins and disappointed with 85.

The big networks have shaved their writers in the last decade due to costs. They are way more in tune with the East Coast. I agree with Fangraphs, although I haven't looked over their standings yet which is strange given that I use that site way too often. I had the Twins at 87 wins before the trade and 85 victories now.

Many look down on the AL Central, not me. My thought is that the team will be stronger at the end of the season and well equipped to handle oppenents in the playoffs. The 162 game schedule is a slog and winning the division remains important.

DocBauer

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On the TV side of things, I'm lucky enough to not be blacked out from the MLB app unless the Twibs play KC. Then I have to watch the game on cable, which I have.

The "good news" is that this a 1yr deal and the whole blackout issue should finally go away for fans who can't, or have limited options, to watch the games. The bad news is a whole revolution as to who and how much $ is involved when MLB pretty much steps in, takes control, and sets up a new future of ML broadcasting. It could affect over half the league. And it could mean a large lowering of revenue per team, at least initially. We could be in for a very messy 2025, and I think a lot of players are not going to be happy. But long term, it could/should be much better for the fans.

I think I echo your general optimism on this team. 

This pen is better, and much deeper, than the one that started 2023. In fact, guys like Funderburk and Alcala might begin the season in St Paul even though they look primed to help the Twins.

I like the offense more as well. Yes, some of the kids might hit some speed bumps. But these are very talented young men with a world of ability. Correa should be healthy, and we should get more from Buxton. I still like the depth, and will like it better after they add 1 more RH bat, which I believe they will very soon. I'm not as sold on Santana as you though. I can't dismiss a string of generally poor years, a rebound in 2023, and then expect him to do so again in 2024. I hope I'm wrong. I still think he's a part time player, mostly against LHP, and I'm OK with that.

I'm still worried about replacing Gray's quality innings. But I really like our top 3, and I'm genuinely excited about Paddack if they can monitor his IP for the season. And I'm a believer in Varland. DeScalfini is a complete mystery and scares me. And I don't know if the young arms in St Paul are going to be ready early in the season. I hope they aren't needed until closer to mid season.

Rumors are the Twins might still someone like Ryu. I could get behind that. I can also get behind a former ML pitcher like Cueto, Odorizzi, etc, on a milb deal to see if they can make a comeback. Why not take a shot? You might get lucky.

I'm feeling pretty good about this team, even if we haven't got a direct Gray replacement at this point.

 

Fatbat

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Does anyone take into concern the weight of injuries overcome by the Twins after the last two years of plain dumb luck? We will likely gain 5-12 wins just based on good to extremely good health. Other factors are the amount of games played against weaker teams.  92-95 wins is not a pipe dream in ‘24. 

Whitey333

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Kind of meh at this point regarding tge Twins 2024 season.  As usual too many what is, or if this guy does this and this guy does that.  People still counting on Buxton is scary. It's been 8 years now only 1 "full" season and that was in 2017.  The starting pitching looks very shaky especially compared to last year.  Too many either unproven or under achievers.  They should win the division but you never know.  Go Twins!

JD-TWINS

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No guarantees with injuries - that’s unquestioned.

Santana hasn’t missed any serious time since 2014 - durability, or belief in it is why I (Twins FO) think he pairs with Kirilloff so well - one will be in the line-up for sure ………Kirilloff more often with good health.

I’ve heard rumblings of DeSclafani’s ill health over the last week here. Discouraging but not terribly surprising. My question/doubt about the accuracy on this topic is that it seems typical to have to pass a physical before trades consummate, correct?? Why would Twins accept damaged goods? I guess they could view him as mid-season upside and not very critical in the trade??? Curious.

Fatbat

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50 minutes ago, JD-TWINS said:

No guarantees with injuries - that’s unquestioned.

Santana hasn’t missed any serious time since 2014 - durability, or belief in it is why I (Twins FO) think he pairs with Kirilloff so well - one will be in the line-up for sure ………Kirilloff more often with good health.

I’ve heard rumblings of DeSclafani’s ill health over the last week here. Discouraging but not terribly surprising. My question/doubt about the accuracy on this topic is that it seems typical to have to pass a physical before trades consummate, correct?? Why would Twins accept damaged goods? I guess they could view him as mid-season upside and not very critical in the trade??? Curious.

I think the trade was about Topa and the 2 prospects. It also allowed us to buy Santana for a year which is a wash at the plate with Polo but increased defensively flexibility plus the 3 other guys and their years of control.  The twins win this trade even if DeSclafani turns Mahle. 

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