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nicksaviking replied to Cory Engelhardt's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
The only name up there that had me saying yes is Zach Neto, But I also don't see the Angels trading their best player for Ryan. -
So it's going to be an even uglier look for the Bengals when they trade for him.......
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I actually wouldn't be surprised if the Twins extended Ryan. Though I due to his age, I probably wouldn't. The A's got their prize with the approval of a move to Las Vegas so MLB finally told them they had to stop manipulating the revenue sharing formula and made them increase their payroll to 100M. Now that the Pohlad's went through the charade of their fake sale and got the cashflow they wanted, I'll bet the 100M will be the bench mark required for approval of these new hedge fund investors. Otherwise, why would the other billionaire owners willingly give the Pohlad's free money to pay off their non-baseball debts when they could instead NOT approve the investors and force the Pohlad's to actually sell to someone who WON'T require such revenue sharing? I think the Twins current payroll next year is something like 50M? Assuming no prideful free agents would even consider this dumpster fire, I'd guess the Twins would have to consider extensions for both Ryan and Jeffers to even sniff the 100M mark.
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That's news to me. Those are two tough DL's the Vikings have to deal with the next two weeks. Does Jurgens slide over to guard assuming Kelly is back? I liked Jurgens so far.
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I don't want to pull the plug on McCarthy either, it's just that upcoming four game stretch of the schedule is absolutely brutal and tracking to turn the mob against him. Even though a rational mind would know that the Vikings would be lucky to win even one of those four games with any QB under center, if those defenses make McCarthy look bad (as they do many QBs) god help us. Maybe you just hide from the noise and let Wentz get manhandled by the Eagles and Chargers so it's more natural to turn back to McCarthy after that? It would be blatantly obvious that the kid was shielded, and having to shield a QB makes me even less sure that I'll ever trust him, but those teams can do what the Falcons did but exponentially better. Of course if the Vikings and Wentz were to win those games, then there's no question that the team rides him the rest of the way. It just seems like there are so many avenues that the Vikings can find themselves in the same situation they were with Cousins and Darnold the past two seasons. Expiring vet contract and long-term QB situation still unknown. Yuck.
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Why not? The other trades have worked out so well for the Twins.....................
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Also, yesterday's game was as ton of fun so sorry about the downer tone. If the defense stays hot and the OLine stays mostly healthy, I think this is a playoff team despite the schedule.
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I hate to say it, but JJ McCarthy's path to being the Vikings long term QB has significantly narrowed. The timing of his injury is absolutely brutal. Unless Wentz goes out and throws for 350 yards and 3 TDs against both Cleveland and Pittsburgh, I think McCarthy will get his job back. But for how long? After the two Europe games the Vikings have a bye week, so the following week is the most probably time for him to return. But against the Eagles. Then the Chargers, Lions and Ravens. So what if the Vikings DO happen to win the next two weeks (in which they'll likely be favored) and sit at 4-1 heading into the bye, how many of the Eagles, Chargers, Lions and Ravens games can JJ lose before both fan AND player pressure causes the coaches to turn back to Wentz? It's going to be the big media talking point even before the Eagles game and it's going to intensify 1000x every time they lose after. And then if/when they do go back to Wentz, the faith in McCarthy is going to be at a low point heading into the 2026 season; lower than it was heading into 2024 or 2025. If he's riding pine at the end of the year after not showing anything in 2025, I think there's a serious chance he's not handed the starting job in 2026. This is both so frustrating and so Vikings.
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I didn't like the comments, but I understand his frustration. He's supposed to follow this coaching staff's instruction on adjustments, when this coaching staff is about 0 for 20 in helping offensive players make adjustments? Publicly he probably shouldn't have said anything, but ownership is refusing to do ANYTHING to fix the club so I'm all for the players making a stink to demonstrate that this is in fact an extremely dysfunctional organization right now. If it becomes clear the inmates are running the asylum, at some point things will have to change, even if ownership is loathe to do so.
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You're jinxing us.......
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Definitely. But it looks like the Bengals D has stopped playing, so he's probably safe outside of a non-contact injury.
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No, the line has been noticeably improved. Even with Darrisaw getting pulled due to the blowout. Wentz has been perfectly serviceable. Twice he held on to the ball too long, but I'll take that over the Wentz who wants to win on every play and throw it into triple coverage.
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Getting Darrisaw back will be huge. That’s almost certainly the biggest roster upgrade they’ll have all season.
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And Flores out of town because he wouldn't tank and turned what should have been 5 win teams into a 9-10 win teams.
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The Dolphins are a perpetually average team. That's a hard pattern to get out of.
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Based on how things typically go for Minnesota teams, if the Twins WERE to acquire some young top end talent, your proposed giant payday for young players will probably come to fruition with the new CBA, leaving the Twins in a spot where they can't or won't pay them.
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"What is my typical day? Great question Joe! Today I was assigned to compile data and evaluate the Blue Jays vs Yankees game. So unlike your managers, coaches and players, I have a much better understanding of how two actual professional ball clubs are supposed to compete against each other!"
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I can understand cutting number crunching jobs that can be consolidated. But is that all the scouts do? Isn't there SOME in depth analysis, insight and anticipation that comes from experience and intuition? I'm not sure it would benefit the Twins to have less of that.
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Can Keaschall adjust is one question, do the Twins as an organization have the personnel and structure to help him adjust is another. We've seen this over and over and over again. I'm hopeful Keaschall breaks the loop, but young players don't understand and figure out adjustments all by themselves.
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If he plays average he probably gets more than one year of guaranteed pay, which probably still means he would have gone elsewhere anyway. Would have been the Kirk Cousins paradox version 2.
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Right, that's what I meant. Re-signing him and telling the world you were planning on competing was reasonable through most of the year. After those last two games the national narrative was that Darnold was a fraud. Which is largely unfair. So when I say they couldn't re-sign Darnold and tell claim to try to be trying to compete, the issue was mostly optics.
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After the melt down games, the Vikings couldn't re-sign Darnold because right or wrong, it would have signaled that they weren't planning on being a true contender. I'm also nowhere near giving up on McCarthy, he's clearly talented, but the game is also clearly too fast for him right now. What I am encouraged about is that he does not appear gun-shy and indecisive. We've seen that with Christian Ponder and Teddy Bridgewater, the Bears have seen it with Justin Fields and now Caleb Williams. You'll never be a winning QB if you're tentative and fearful of mistakes. If anything, McCarthy has been too reckless, I think you can work with that. But two years of injury are tough. This team REALLY needed to have their answer on him come the end of this season so they know if they should move on; it's looking less likely that they will know enough. I also don't buy the injury conspiracy; that strip sack looked nasty, I thought he was going to end up getting carted off the field.
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The owners are doing fine and can sell if they'd like? You have been following our latest ownership saga I presume? I'd be happy to be in their position, but I'm quiet sure that many are not seeing the ROI and appreciation they were used to. And yeah, the NBA has passed MLB in every meaningful demographic, which certainly has to at least be raising the alarm bells of any owner that does want to see the league continue. I admit there may be no such owner; I suspect plenty only care about immediate profits over long term health. But I also believe there are angles to this immediate profit that may spur change in favor of a competitive equality.
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Because there's only a handful of 'CEO' players and the vast majority are at or near your bottom tier? Yeah Bryce Harper won't like it, tough luck because there are 10x more Kody Clemons who would see their pay increase exponentially. If you took a poll at the workplaces of those Fortune 500 companies and asked if the workers would be in favor of limiting CEO raises so there was more money for everyone else, it would overwhelmingly pass in favor of the working class. At those companies the worker bees get no vote, with the MLBPA, they all should, even if I suspect those with the most money try to silence them.
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I'd imagine it would work similar to what happened in the NFL in 1994. Teams were forced to shed salaries and some of those bigger contracts ended up on teams that previously wouldn't pay them. Not to mention the two new expansion teams looking to make an impact with big named players. Additionally, teams will finally be forced to pay young players accordingly. Maybe there's no more arbitration and pre-arb players. Or they could have a grandfather clause which I believe the NBA had in 1984. As for opening their books, the players are going to demand that regardless even if it's an arbiter who sees the numbers and not them. We're long past the days of the union taking the owners word about their earnings.
