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Let's Find a Role for Devin Smeltzer in 2020
jorgenswest replied to Matt Braun's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
At the time of the trade in 2018 Smeltzer was a AA reliever and finished a AA reliever. He had no innings in AAA. Isn’t it possible that every inning he threw in the minors last year was key to his development and any success in the majors? How many of the 14 starts in AAA do you suggest the Twins should have used for major league data rather than AAA development? Half of them? Would that have made a difference in whatever data they can collect in the majors that they can’t collect in the minors? What data would be collected? It is the same ball. The same machines collect all of the data on his pitches. They have a huge database to match those pitches against similar pitches in the major leagues. His pitches aren’t going to behave differently from the major league mound. Dobnak was even further away. Development matters. I am with you on the give a shot to a 28 year old Anderson vs. Belisle failure. Not here though. It was a failure of not acquiring a better major league starter than Perez. If anything Smeltzer and Dobnak are development successes that maybe would have benefited from more time developing in the minors last year. -
I think the rep is no longer true. The old regime started bringing up players quicker but the results were not very good for many. It was still a failure but it became a failure of not recognizing that players weren’t ready or a failure of not developing them. Arcia, Hicks, Sano and Buxton were not near ready with pitch recognition and approach. Hicks couldn’t recognize when to attack a pitch and the others couldn’t lay off pitches. I think it is much more critical that the players arrive prepared than arrive quick. If Graterol needs more time to work on an adequate change up so his fastball will be more effective he should start in AAA. It is on the Twins to have the right staff in place to develop him.
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Soroko has and used three effective pitches. His change up was effective entering the season. The change up is the striking difference between the two. From May 21- look at the layover of his three pitches https://mobile.twitter.com/pitchingninja/status/1130797255060070400 From April 29 https://www.pitcherlist.com/mike-sorokas-changeup-and-the-nastiest-pitches-from-4-29/ We didn’t see any evidence of a major league ready third pitch or change up from Graterol. Until he shows that third pitch I don’t think we can compare him to Soroka even if his age and minor league stats are comparable. Without a major league ready third pitch the options would be to send him to AAA or give up on making him a starter and put him in the bullpen to start the season.
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A Case for Signing Yasmani Grandal
jorgenswest replied to Patrick Wozniak's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If the Twins devote any significant resources to acquiring a position player, I think catcher is the spot. Jeffers and Rortvedt can not be counted on to be ready at any time this season. It just takes longer to develop as a catcher. Telis has been playing AAA since 2014. His AAA numbers the last two seasons have been good but those come with lots of experience at the level. I wouldn’t count on him as a reliable in any long stretch in the majors. They need to focus on starting pitching but starting pitching plus Grandal would really help. -
Statcast Wants C.J. Cron Back – Do You?
jorgenswest replied to Patrick Wozniak's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Without Cron they have a reasonably solid core of 13 position players. Garver, Sano, Gonzalez, Arraez, Polanco, Adrianza, Rosario, Buxton, Kepler, Cave, Cruz Astudillo, catcher If Astudillo is the back up catcher then they have a spot for Cron. Otherwise they might be better off adding a catcher. They also have enough minor league depth that is ready for an opportunity when needed. Wade, Kirilloff, Rooker, Larnach, Raley and Gordon (with Lewis a few hot months away from joining the list) The one position missing here is catcher. I am not sure I am confident in Telis at catcher. At 28 and in AAA since 2014 his numbers at that level might be skewed especially his recognition of AAA breaking balls. Cron is a good player but they might be better off using the roster and budget resources towards building depth at catcher -
LEN3: Derek Falvey Declined Red Sox Interview
jorgenswest replied to Parker Hageman's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I see this as a message to the organization that he is committed to being in Minnesota. I don’t think he sends that message unless he feels the Pohlad’s are at willing to keep minimally a league median budget.- 30 replies
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The Uncertain Future Of Nick Gordon
jorgenswest replied to Matt Braun's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The Twins need to get this assessment right. If they are confident in Gordon they player to sell high is Arraez. -
Should Twins Consider Moving Mitch Garver to 1B?
jorgenswest replied to Thiéres Rabelo's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The Twins need to play someone at catcher where the risk of repeated concussions is significant. The logic here might be that Garver’s bat is not one that they should risk losing due to concussion. With that logic teams would never have a good bat at catcher. They absolutely should move Garver on the advice of the medical team. Until then Garver at catcher gives them the best chance to win games. -
Baseball America: Chalmers making up for lost time
jorgenswest replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
He showed some good stuff today. I am looking forward to seeing how he progresses in his first full season in the Twins system. -
Where are they now? Ex-Twins in 2019
jorgenswest replied to Doctor Wu's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
Grossman had a very good year with the glove well above his skill level. Those year to year outliers happen with pitchers. They happen at the plate. His performance was real and he deserves consideration. I wouldn’t bet on him repeating any more than I would bet on Ketel Marte repeating his performance at the plate. Defensive metrics have a year to year correlation that is not dissimilar from slash stats or ERA. Career years with the glove can happen just as career years happen at the plate and on the mound. -
If the Twins are confident enough in Astudillo’s defense at catcher I would go with him. I would use him against those high strike out pitchers that don’t give up a lot of contact. That game changing pinch hit against Matt Barnes still sits with me. It didn’t make sense until I realized the one thing the Twins needed the most in that at bat was a ball in play. Stick with Astudillo and put the resources elsewhere.
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The Defensive Future of Royce Lewis
jorgenswest replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
As for his development they need to make sure his bat is an asset. It might be best to put the extra work at the plate than learning 3B or CF. I also think he has more value in trade as a starting SS prospect than a super utility with a mediocre glove at several positions. Develop the bat. Develop his glove at SS.- 39 replies
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I don’t think Lewis was expected to stay at SS but with shifting some argue that the demands of the position are changing. That seems fine in theory but then I watch the good middle infields in the playoffs and wonder if the pairing of Arraez and Polanco will hold the Twins back at that level. It might serve the Twins to move everyone down the defensive spectrum with Arraez going to 3B and Polanco 2B. Move Sano to 1B but find a shortstop.
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Dealing with Wheeler Gets Minnesota an Ace
jorgenswest replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Is Wheeler better than Odorizzi? I wouldn’t put him in a tier above Odorizzi. Wheeler gets a huge benefit pitching in an NL pitcher friendly park. He had 28 strike outs to no walks against pitchers. Both the park and the NL helped to extend his innings and give the perception he would go deep in games. Take out pitchers and his OPS against (712) was 45 points higher than Odorizzi. In Citi Field Wheeler’s OPS against was 658 vs 727 away from home. Wheeler is better than Nolasco but the concerns should be the same. Nolasco came off a season pitching in the NL in a mix of neutral (Florida) and pitching friendly (LA) parks. He had about the same number of pitchers faced that included 23 of his strike outs. We found some hope in his FIPs that were better than his ERAs. His OPS against non pitchers that year was 706. I think there is a better chance that he will be Nolasco than be transformed into an ace. I expect somewhere in the middle getting between 5-6 innings per start of a little better than league average pitching and then declining some age 32 and 33.- 108 replies
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Falvey: "...We're going to target impact pitching."
jorgenswest replied to USAFChief's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
The Twins guarantee to Morris was 3 years and 7 million dollars. The base for the first year was 3 million with player options the next two years at 2 million. That same week Clemens signed a 4 year 21.521 million contract. It was a brilliant signing and a risk for both with Morris betting on himself to rebound. The Twins got the World Series and Morris got his contract the next year. For the Twins it was either going to be one great season and pay 3.7 million incentives included (and Morris opts out) or three mediocre seasons for 7 million. A similar (scaled to today’s dollars) contract offer today is not going to bring a top or even second tier free agent. -
I don’t think we need defensive metrics (which have a stronger year to year correlation than batting average and ERA) to know that the Twins defense was below average to well below average all around the infield. They might address this by finding a plus defensive shortstop and moving Polanco to 2B and Sano to 1B. Arraez will still likely be below average at 3B but it shouldn’t be much different than Sano at 3B. Better defense will not only prevent runs but also reduce high pitch count innings. Reducing those innings leads to longer starts and less wear on the bullpen.
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State of the Twins Rotation
jorgenswest replied to Patrick Wozniak's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
http://twinsdaily.com/_/minnesota-twins-news/minnesota-twins/finer-points-options-part-two-the-fourth-option-r7741 Romero and 4th option year- 31 replies
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Rocco: "I'm not frustrated at all"
jorgenswest replied to JeffReboulet's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I think he has to stay consistent to his nature. His response was genuine Rocco. I wonder if more fire in a post game interview is a necessary attribute in manager. I don’t think so but if that is the case the Twins should look elsewhere. -
The innings are not a concern to me. Odorizzi battles every at bat and every pitch. Berrios had 100 1-pitch plate appearances from batters and was crushed for an OPS of 1321. Odorizzi only had 61 1-pitch plate appearances with an OPS of .839. When the count fell 1-0 batters attacked Berrios again more often than Odorizzi. Berrios gets more outs early in the count but it isn’t all good news. It might be better to throw fewer innings and battle every pitch.
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I haven’t seen Gordon play to know about his defense but I like the model here. Twins improve defense and save money on the contracts of Schoop and Cron in the infield. Reallocate that money towards pitching and address run prevention with both moves.
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I think the biggest weakness is defense. At the start of the year with Buxton in CF, Gonzalez at 3B and Schoop at 2B it was pretty solid. When Sano returned and Arraez and Cave started getting more playing time the defense became a liability. Innings and pitch counts were extended and it led to even shorter starts by pitchers. The outfield is fixed with Buxton in CF but Cave and Wade are not good defenders in CF and have different liabilities on a corner. Wade routes and arm strength and Cave’s decision making will keep them as fourth OFs at best. The infield is the bigger challenge will below to well below average play all around. I wonder if finding an elite defensive SS while moving Polanco to 2B, Arraez to 3B and Sano to 1B should be a priority.
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All games are still winnable. This one had the Yankees at 93.7% win expectancy at the time Gibson entered. If today was an off day I am taking my chances on the Twins side of that percent. There is a game today and relievers in general do not do as well on 0 days rest. That certainly is true for the Twins relievers and their 5.38 ERA on no rest.
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I think you manage the first two games like you manage a double header particularly to start the series when winning one game on the road is huge. Rogers, May and Romo have a better chance of being at the top of their game today. We can’t beat the Yankees if they are not at the top of their games. Everything resets with the day off so burn the bullpen today.
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