I think I heard kab say a few times 'competent' as in a 3 or 4 starter. That is different, at least in my opinion, from 'good.' I think Santana and Berrios are good; if Mejia keeps it up he might be above competent. If we could get another Mejia type (of recent Mejia), I think that's the kind of move the Twins should do now, for this season, above competent, because what we have had in the others isn't. I don't think that will cost us Gordon. And if it does, that's someone asking for too much and we don't go there. And I think we have a good combo in Rogers/Kintzler. I wouldn't write Duffey off either, if not over used. I think we should be finding better options than Breslow and Belisle. I don't think that's asking a lot either, and I don't think should cost the farm. These are the types of things I want the Twins to do this year. I don't think that's an overly positive direction, and I don't like it when people sell it as such. I think that's fairly modest and a fairly realistic approach. NO ONE knows what any outcome might be, no one. And I think it's a legitimate and valid opinion without a handful of people calling it otherwise because it's not what they would do or want to see done. We have a WINNING RECORD for once in a long time. Most all I think are pretty realistic as to what that means. Yes, some want to sell the farm. It's not an opinion I share. But I think for this year it is a far too conservative approach to do nothing. (And no, I realize you haven't said 'do nothing.') But I think jettisoning what has gotten us to this point will also not play well for the future. Ugh ... I'm just too tired of all of this discussion and side taking and accusations of what their opinions mean because people disagree.