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I believe Forsythe is a downgrade from Dozier but not a huge one. Dozier should have gotten more in return but not significantly more. I believe we were offered more than De Leon and that the hold up was the third piece, whether that means having a third piece at all or who the third piece was.
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Do these words sound familiar? 'when a poster starts to invent positions not taken by others, it is easy for escalation'. Anyway, doesn't make sense to me either. Then again, I never said I believed the Dodgers offered significantly more for Dozier than what they did for Forsythe, just that I believe they offered more (and Jeff Passan's tweet seems to back that up). Additionally, that article about Forsythe and Dozier being very close is just one person's opinion, who knows whether that's the same opinion across the league.
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Well, remember, getting Castro was clearly the Twins top priority from the get-go. I thought it should be trading for some quality pitching prospects, but alas.
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Nobody said a ton more, but not hard to believe it was De Leon plus another decent prospect, like Calhoun. Passan's tweet seems to suggest a third prospect (or the third prospect) was the issue. So who knows how good the 2nd prospect was, and it was the third prospect that was holding things up. You said, 'Without knowing the specifics of the best offer Minnesota turned down, it is difficult to cast any immediate judgments.' Based on what you wrote after saying that, it didn't seem you found it very difficult to cast an immediate judgment at all Your judgment was clearly that the Twins made the right decision to keep Dozier. Maybe you meant, 'Without knowing the specifics of the best offer Minnesota turned down, it is difficult to say the FO did the wrong thing'?
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'At this moment, that looks like the right move. De Leon is a shiny prospect, and exactly the type of player Minnesota needed back as a headliner, but with a 1-to-1 swap and no meaningful auxiliary components the risks are sky-high.' -Yeah, we don't know what the offer was. Assuming it was De Leon and nothing (or nothing significant) just plays into the benefit of the doubt almost always given to the FO (regardless of the names). Find it hard to believe Dodgers offered the same thing for Dozier that they did for Forsythe (basically). 'And the Dodgers, at the end of the day, were willing to deal him straight-up for a player in Forsythe who is a major downgrade from Dozier.' -http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/dodgers-trade-for-brian-dozier-basically/ Major downgrade if Dozier has another year like he did in 2016 or improves. I would bet zero dollars and zero cents either of those things happen.
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Article: Five Remaining Free Agent Fits
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FTFY :-)- 80 replies
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Article: Twins To Deploy More Platoons In 2017?
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Problem is, once the 5th starter was introduced, it hurt the bench and once the DH was introduced, it hurt the bench in the AL. And that was before teams started using, and expanding, bullpens more.- 39 replies
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Article: Twins To Deploy More Platoons In 2017?
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MLB could expand rosters AND, at the same time, put a limit on the amount of pitchers a team can have on the roster.- 39 replies
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Article: Running Down The Hall (Of Fame Ballot)
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Because saves leader?- 114 replies
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Article: Running Down The Hall (Of Fame Ballot)
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Beltre wRC+ 115, OPS+ 116, OPS .818. Traditional slash line:.286/.338/.480 Chipper wRC+ 141, OPS+ 141, OPS .930. Traditional slash line: .303/.401/.529 Offensively, Beltre isn't close. But defense should and does count. Chipper about average (maybe slightly below, but not too much below). Beltre, on the other hand, AWESOME on D! And though bWAR has Beltre barely above Chipper, fWAR actually has Chipper higher than Beltre (barely) though I doubt it ends up that way when it's all said and done. P.S. Chipper is also 3rd in HRs for 3Bs.- 114 replies
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Article: Running Down The Hall (Of Fame Ballot)
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I think Chipper is an absolute slam dunk HOFer worthy of first ballot entrance, and he'll get it. Never had an amazing year? Well, he has an MVP, had 5 seasons with an OPS over 1.000 (which is more than 25% of his seasons), led the league in OPS+ once, has a batting title, had a season where he had an OBP of .470. Had 10 seasons with an OBP over .400. Had 11 seasons with an OPS over .900 and NEVER had an OPS under .800. Oh, and he wasn't a 1B or a corner OF, he was a 3B. BA of .303, OBP .401, SLG% over .529. 141 OPS+. 18 year career with an OBP over .400? Yes please. Not sure how one can have those career numbers and never have an amazing season. 'Some cool Chipper nuggets: He's one of exactly two switch-hitters in history who hit .300 from both sides of the plate over at least 5,000 plate appearances. (The other: Frankie Frisch.) ... He's also one of two switch-hitters in the .400 OBP-.500 SLG-400 HR Club. (The other: Some guy named Mickey Mantle.) ... He finished with more than 100 more walks than strikeouts. And in the expansion era, only four other players with as many home runs as the Chipster could say that (Bonds, Frank Thomas, Albert Pujols, Gary Sheffield). ... And if we're allowed to mention RBIs, guess who drove in more runs than any player in history whose primary position was third base? Yep. Chipper Jones (1,623).'--Jayson Stark And the WAR argument, for those who care (and many don't). There are 7 retired 3B that are in the top 10 for bWAR at 3B. ALL of them are in the HOF. Beltre (4th), Chipper (6th) and Rolen (10) are the other three in the top 10 and haven't been on a ballot yet.- 114 replies
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Article: Running Down The Hall (Of Fame Ballot)
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It's not like Glavine was ever a K machine or a control freak.. -He was at 7K/9 or higher only twice. -He only walked less than 2 per 9 once. -Mussina AVERAGED over 7K and less than 2BB/9 And Mussina had less than 50 PA against pitchers, Glavine had over 1300 PA against pitchers.. Mussina pitched against better offenses and performed better across the board anyway. You want to say the extra innings/years help even out the rate stats, well, the fact that Glavine faced weaker competition than Mussina his whole career put the advantage right back to Mussina. But those 800 more innings is also what got him the 300 wins which was likely another big reason why he gets in first ballot. If Mussina wanted to be a compiler,, he likely only needs another 400 innings to get to 300 wins. And he'd still have about 400 less innings if he had done that.- 114 replies
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Article: Running Down The Hall (Of Fame Ballot)
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So Jayson Stark made an interesting comment, 'I'd even argue he was the greatest No. 1 overall draft pick of all time -- considering he played every game of his career for the team that drafted him..' I love Chipper and he is a slam dunk HOFer, but there's a guy named Ken Griffey Jr. Thoughts?- 114 replies
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Article: Running Down The Hall (Of Fame Ballot)
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You make it sound like all I put was WAR (calling it a WAR-based analysis like that automatically makes it invalid which I guess for some it does), and I didn't just use WAR. In fact, only one paragraph mentioned WAR. A lot of your argument goes back to the media/popularity argument (no, he didn't deserve 2 CY, only one) and compiler issues I already pointed out. Even without WAR (which you bring up, and discard, twice) I think he's overrated. It's not like I didn't list a bunch of other comparisons, right? FIP, ERA+, K/9, BB/9 NL versus AL, etc. All of which favor Mussina and Schilling. I even mentioned winning % , which I don't care about but thought it should be mentioned because SOME do. Winning % is as far away from WAR as one could get. And I never said Glavine wasn't HOF worthy, just that Schilling and Mussina were better, yet Glavine gets in easily on first shot. That's my issue. He certainly doesn't stack up to the group of Pedro, Clemens, Big Unit and Maddux.- 114 replies
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BTW, question abut HOFer IRod. He was an awesome defensive catcher. Has Yadier been even better? I've watched both in their prime and think Yadier might be even better defensively.- 114 replies
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Article: Running Down The Hall (Of Fame Ballot)
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'Mussina had nine seasons with an Adjusted ERA+ better than 129. The only perspective you need on what that means is the list I'm about to unfurl. The only five starters since 1900 with more seasons that much better than the league average: Clemens, Walter Johnson, Christy Mathewson, Greg Maddux and Lefty Grove. Check!'--Jayson Stark. Mussina has 82 WAR (that is a ton. That should get you in no matter what team you play on). Schilling 80 WAR. Glavine only 67 WAR (even though he played CONSIDERABLY longer than the other two). Before looking at the comparison below, remember Glavine pitched in the NL (the non-DH league) his whole career, Mussina pitched in the AL East his whole career. Mussina 3.57 FIP, Schilling 3.23 FIP, Glavine 3.95 FIP. Mussina ERA+ of 123 (3562 IP), Schilling ERA+ of 127 (3261 IP), Glavine ERA+ of 118. (4413 IP) Mussina 7.11K, 1.98BB, Schilling 8.60K, 1.96BB, Glavine 5.32K, 3.06BB (and he pitched to a lot of pitchers). For those who care about wins and losses, Mussina had a .638 winning %. Glavine was at .600 and Schilling at .597. I'm not sure what people can look at and say Glavine was a first ballot HOFer while Schilling and Mussina continue to wait, but I sure can't find it. But Glavine gets in first ballot. He was a win accumulator who stuck around a long time to get to 300 wins (which seem to matter but the losses don't). Fortunate to be on great teams with great teammates in the rotation, 'Big Three'. The writers pushed the Big Three narrative and they rewarded themselves, and Glavine, because of it.- 114 replies
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Article: Running Down The Hall (Of Fame Ballot)
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One of those guys is not like the others.- 114 replies
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Article: Don't Sleep On Phil Hughes
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I'm going to stand by what I wrote in the post you quoted 100%. You may not like my take on what happened or my opinion on it, but its not disingenuous. That word gets thrown around here a lot. -
Article: Forecasting Mauer's Remaining Years
jimmer replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
They've expanded the called strike zone every year since 2010 (starting then) until this year where it was like 2014 (though still quite different than 2009 and before). IMO, patient batters with very keen eyes who were used to a certain strike zone for a long time, have a harder time adjusting. He should be adjusting of course, but for players who are more free swingers, the change in strike zone is less of an issue. -
Article: Running Down The Hall (Of Fame Ballot)
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Vlad Guerrero (with his 54 fWAR and 59 bWAR in 9,000 PA) barely misses it in his 1st shot and likely makes it next year. EDMONDS (with his 65 fWAR and 60 bWAR in 8000 PA) is off the ballot in his 1st shot. 8 time gold glover and OPS over .900 (and he was primarily a CF). Larry Walker (with his 69 fWAR and bWAR of 73 in 8000 PA) isn't going to make it. This guy did it all (hit, very good runner, very good defender). He is 10th in WAR for RF and every single guy in the top 14 for RF, with the exception of Shoeless Joe who is banned, is in the HOF. Ichiro, who is 16th in WAR for RF, will make it too (likely 1st time). But, of course, WAR isn't the end all be all (for some, it means zero) When looking at positions, defense, wRC+ and OPS+ (which accounts for park and time frame) it's equally ridiculous to see Vlad so close on first time and neither of these guys having any kind of shot.- 114 replies
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Article: Running Down The Hall (Of Fame Ballot)
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Still no Mussina, still no Schilling. In fact, Schilling actually DROPPED.- 114 replies
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I have zero issue when players who aren't even close to being HOFers drop off 1st time. Posada is one of those guys. Jim Edmonds, who had a legitimate argument to actually make the HOF, was gone after one ballot.- 114 replies
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Article: Don't Sleep On Phil Hughes
jimmer replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It was a completely out of left field season and an unnecessary/early extension. It wasn't a good extension based on info available at the time. Hindsight (which, you know, wasn't hard to see coming) confirms it but wasn't necessary to see this was a bad decision. I don't care if a lot of people in here were on a high from his season and applauded the decision at the time because of that season, it was an obvious bad move (and using group think to say other-wise doesn't work either). -
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Congrats to Bagwell (can't even believe it took this long), IRod (only the 2nd catcher in history to get voted in on his first ballot) and Raines!!! And good job, HOF voters, for continuing to screw over Mussina and Schilling (among a few others).- 114 replies
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