gunnarthor
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I would but they won't. His max innings in any season was something like 125 and he's coming off an injury. Even though he was a starter in the minors, they won't risk this. (I actually thought they should have seen what his trade value was last year).
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Three Offseason Decisions Already Hurting the Twins
gunnarthor replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
That's not really true. Under this FO, their team pitching WAR ranking has been - 2017 -24th 2018 -22nd 2019 - 4th 2020 -3rd (in a short season) 2021 - 21st 2022 - 26th 2023 - 4th That's a bit all over the map and hasn't really shown any development of a "pipeline."- 144 replies
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Three Offseason Decisions Already Hurting the Twins
gunnarthor replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
It's not a good team but they'll probably still win the central. Maybe. But it's a boring and surprisingly old team. It's not fun to watch (admittedly, I haven't seen much b/c they aren't on youtube tv). Watching journeymen players struggle sucks. I'd rather watch young guys try. That said, there are problems - they have two legit ML starters in Lopez and Ryan. But the rest of the rotation is a question mark. I assume our strategy of throw things against the wall, see what sticks will let us find another reasonable starter but the depth is poor and the ceilings aren't that high. Offensively, they aren't going to post a 81 OPS+ for the season, they aren't this bad. So we should see some basic positive regression as a team and they have some potential players with pretty good upside, if they can get healthy. But there is a lot of season left and both Baltimore and LA are far superior teams so a bad start was a little bit likely. After this, we get Detroit and the White Sox. We might look a lot better in a week or so.- 144 replies
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I dunno. NE has really pushed the value of #3 a lot in public. Suggesting it would take a lot of first round picks (which I read to mean more than 2) and/or wanting a young player on a rookie contract (Addison). If they have a deal in place for our 2 firsts and a third next year (which lines up with the trade value charts) their fans might be pretty disappointed. My feeling is we don't trade into the top 3 and, while I think we do make a trade to move up (SD or NY?) I'm not as confident. I wouldn't be surprised if they held the pick and went defense at 11 and Nix/Penix at 23.
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I don't see how you can write stuff about Vazquez earning his salary with a straight face. Really makes TD look like a shrill for the FO and not, you know, based in reality.
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I would guess this is just bluster. We're seeing insanity quotes out of NE about the value of #3, here the Vikes are like, "hey, we can make do with whatever falls to us at 11 or 23". But the quote itself isn't that bad - there are hardly any perfect QBs. So, as I read it, he's just saying, we don't need a mobile QB (for instance) b/c we have great WR/TE that get open quick in our scheme. Or, we don't need a QB to make 3 reads, our system let's him go 1, 2, bail. etc. But the one thing I'm completely sure of is that the Vikings are not unaware of the importance of the QB. Fans, on the other hand, can't figure out who elite QBs are, week-to-week.
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Reports are saying the Vikings didn't initiate the trade with the Texans so maybe there isn't a deal in place. Mel Kiper's latest mock has us trading three first round picks to the Chargers (#5 overall) which, I think, is way too much. And reports out of NE also suggest 3 firsts is the starting point of negotiations. I'm sure a lot of this is bluster but I'm starting to think it's more likely that they stay pat and pick a QB at either 11 or 23 rather than trade up. The Texas DL at 11 and Nix at 23 might happen. Or, if the Giants pass, one of Maye/McCarthy could drop to 11 (or a team at 8-10 might be more willing to drop a few spots if that starts happening).
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Or, two other teams valued him more.
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I like that trade for Houston. Really gives them some weapons for their stud QB. Best of luck to Diggs.
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I didn't think much of Desclafani when we made the trade - "They got a top 100 prospect, a potentially useful bullpen arm, and junk for Polanco while saving money. This feels (both good and bad) like a pretty Twinsy-trade. I like that it frees up space. The Twins pitching plan seems to be throw stuff at wall, see what sticks and this gives them some more stuff to throw." Seems like he won't stick. Bummer for him he got hurt. But the bigger issue seems to be this FO has traded for a number of injured pitchers from Day one. Remember Sam Dyson? I would hope they stop doing this but they haven't seemed to learn anything yet.
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Just throwing this out but one stock we've had for a few years that has been stupidly solid is American Express (AXP). Boring but has a nice little dividend and, at least since we've had it, has outperformed the S&P.
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I think the Vikings will trade up and grab either Maye or McCarthy. That's probably the most likley based on the rumors I've read. And I really don't think they got the 23rd pick without a trade up in mind but it is possible that NE overplays their hand and a trade doesn't happen there. (I'm convinced Williams and Daniels go 1-2). What I'd like to see is the Vikings stay put at 11 and have McCarthy drop to them but I don't think that's likely. That said, occasionally QBs drop, so here's hoping.
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I'm curious how this will look in reality so let's see.
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Hey, don't worry about getting the reporting wrong. It happens.
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The current FO has already shown that it couldn't keep the previous window of opportunity open so not really sure what the point of this article was when you don't even discuss that. I think a better article might be if the Twins can avoid the mistakes they've already made.
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Agreed, but you also need depth because of injuries. Really reinforces my belief that the Vikings are looking for talent as well as for specific guys who will fit their defensive scheme. They seem to have a plan, at least.
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49ers penalized some draft picks for shady accounting practices and they also sign QB Dobbs. Good for him. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39761321/payroll-error-2022-costs-49ers-25-pick-dip-4th-24
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I don't think Washington will pass on Daniels, lots of smoke that he's their guy. NE is starting to talk about they will only take a QB so I suspect that's to get the Vikings to increase their offer. I think I want Maye than McCarthy but I'm not really interested in using a first on Nix, Penix, etc. I know some are a bit worried about McCarthy but I think he'd be the type of QB KOC can work with. If we can't trade up, there are a lot of rumors now that McCarthy won't get to 11 so in that worst case scenario for the Vikings, DT/shut-down CB, I suppose.
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Vikings lose Osborn to NE but apparently that means we will get a 3rd round pick under the NFL's comp pick rules in 2025. Best of luck to KJ. He seemed like a nice person.
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I actually agree with you but to play devil's advocate, the owner might be enamored with the new head coach despite the QB and if the new HC wants to restock the system, trading Herbert could do it. That said, I really don't think it's possible considering the salary cap hit. And Harbaugh seems more like a win-now kind of guy and not a complete rebuild guy.
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I have no idea how that trade could be made but that would be fantastic. Herbert would look great in purple.
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Bears trade for Keenan Allen. Gads. I hate that guy. He always toasts us.
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I think, after watching KOC coach Dobbs, that Maye fits KOC better anyway. That said, some of the criticisms I'm reading is that he is slow to read plays, which seems like the #1 problem you can't fix. "“He’s big and mobile and can sling it around but he didn’t play consistent football (in 2023). I thought his processing was a problem but it was hard to tell sometimes because of how his line played in front of him.” - AFC personnel director" But I'm actually pleased that the Vikings FO is (seemingly) looking to get a top QB. Obviously, if it fails, they'll all be out of jobs but it's a strong, bold move and, with the early defensive free agent signings, seems to indicate that the team has a plan.
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I would assume this means we have two first round picks to use to trade up into the top 3, then?
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Good depth.
