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Honestly, it's probably better for him. Let him sit, hopefully he learns stuff. QB is too hard to step in on day one and be successful. Manning and Burrow are the exceptions.

I'd hate to be a Cincy fan tonight. Ouch.

Quick thoughs 1) I love the defense. Lots of guys get time and it's a good scheme. Holding SF to 17 is really impressive and they seem pretty good at applying pressure. I thought they'd be a top 10 defense this year and I'm pretty confident in that. 2) KOC is a good coach and has been able to keep his players steady through three years. Very impressive. Some of his playcalling is worth second guessing - in the first half Chandler ran three straight plays for nearly 40 yards, our defense was gassed a bit, instead of calling a fourth run or even going play action, he just sets up in a passing formation and Darnold throws a bad pick. Same when we were running out the clock, first and goal at the ten, just run the ball up the gut, make them use the timeouts. Instead, a weird trick play that ends up out of bounds, stopping the clock. I know that his playcalling is generally good and puts pressure on the D - see the 97 yard TD this week, the 4th down TD last week - so this is just how KOC is and, generally, I'll take the overly aggressive nature rather than Zimmer's conservative nature even though, sometimes, it'll bite us pretty hard. 3) Darnold is a good QB (and by good, I mean he could be a top 15 QB, not that he's the next Mahomes). He has the talent but was coached poorly but is still young and has a really good arm. Give him a solid system and good teammates and he can be good. Cousins excelled in this system, Mullins put up numbers. At the end of the game, Addison, Jefferson, Hockinson, Jones were all out and he still moved the team. Major kudos. 4) Fred Warner is a very good LB.

Me.

Big win!

Well, let's get a 2 minute score and a td on the first drive in the second half.

Ouch

Yes!!

Great defense. Hopefully we can have another 90+ td drive here

This is where missing Hotch hurts a lot

We have a good coaching staff

We probably lose but we haven't yet so Vikes win 31-18.

Honestly, watching Tua play is not fun. It's scary. These hits are likely ****ing up his brain something horrific. Take the guaranteed money and run.

Not sure what thread to put this in but Vikings extended Harrison Phillips for two years. https://www.dailynorseman.com/2024/9/10/24240959/minnesota-vikings-harrison-phillips-two-year-contract-extension I like this move. He's a solid producer for the defense and he's not close to breaking the bank.

I honestly think I'd prefer GB to go 0-17 then for the Vikings to go 17-0.

All game, actually. He can't last much longer.

Jones is bad but his line and receivers aren't doing him any favors

Great drive. I'm drowning in kool-aid right now.

I think you're right about the pass-rushing rotation. That and the rushers come from everywhere, I think some QBs (Daniel Jones, GB's backup, etc) will be easily rattled.

Give us an extra TD but I think you're right on. Jones had a terrible pre-season. The boo-birds will be ready to come out as soon as they go three and out once. I wouldn't be surprised to see him benched after a miserable first half. Interestingly, this website thinks the Vikings have the 8th best O-line and the Giants are at 29. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/best-offensive-lines-nfl-rankings/ Hopefully, that is accurate.

My general thoughts. 1) I was amazed that the Vikings were the first time he was fired in his career. That's just unheard of nowadays. 2) I didn't really care that he wasn't lovey-dovey with all his players - his comments about Boyd made me chuckle. We knew who he was but being a hardass coach doesn't nec. mean that your players should be scared of you. Bill Belicheck was a hardass but didn't have these problems. Same with many good coaches. That Zimmer couldn't figure that out is not good. 3) Also, it was completely inexcusable that he couldn't create a good relationship with Cousins and build a team around him. Sure, you didn't want him but you got him. Play to his strengths. I will go to my grave thinking that the 2019 Vikings should have been a pass-happy offense that ran up leads, that should have gone for it on 4th down most of the time, and then leaned on Cook to finish games while the defense was stifling. Instead, Zimmer wanted to play ballcontrol/field position football. Somehow a team that was top 5 in defensive points and top 10 in offensive points only went 10-7. 4) The Speilman/Zimmer relationship was much worse than anyone thought. That they weren't speaking speaks very poorly of both men. Grow up, you're both paid millions. Figure **** out. 5) Lastly, one of the reasons I like our current FO/coaching staff is that they all seem to be on the same page and complement, rather than compete with, each other.

That injury looked really, really bad. I guess we will know more this weekend but ... ouch. Without Love, the Packers aren't winning 9 games.

As the eternal optimist, I say the Vikings will make the playoffs as a wildcard. I think Darnold can be better than Mullins and Flores defense can be a top 10 unit (we were top 15 with, essentially, the same unit that was 30th or so the year before) so we etch out 9 or 10 wins even with this hellish schedule. KOC wins coach of the year. Green Bay wins the central (sigh). Detroit regresses a bit and comes in third. Chicago rebuild bombs and we all get a little schadenfreude out of that.

Yeah, I watched the 1st quarter and the wife wanted to watch something else, so we did. Refs made sure KC won. :-)

ESPN actually had an article on this just a few days ago - https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41107375/nfl-backup-quarterback-crisis-qb2-qb3-depth-charts-joe-flacco-aaron-rodgers Essentially, the league wide dearth of capable QBs (Josh Dobbs was a top 20 QB by QBR last year) and the strong likelihood of injury, teams are paying far more attention to QB depth and capability than they had been. The article discusses the Vikes a bit but it's a league wide discussion. "The Vikings found themselves back in quarterback hell before the season even began, but this year they were prepared. Rookie first-rounder J.J. McCarthy's injury meant Darnold officially became the starter, Nick Mullens the backup and Hall the QB3. At roster cut-down, general manager Kwesi Adofo-Mensah released Hall in order to sign fifth-year quarterback Brett Rypien to the active roster because he felt better about Rypien's experience in the QB3 role than Hall, who he said needs more development."