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Explaining Alex Kirilloff’s Service Time to Your Child
Trov replied to RandBalls Stu's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I have asked this before and no responses, but who has Falvene duo manipulated service time to while they are in charge? I cannot think of anyone. People assume they will because teams are known to do it, but what evidence do we have they will here? If Kirilloff rakes this spring and they do not bring him up claiming needs more time, then I will agree they did it. If he does not rake in spring they will be in all rights to send him down. I hope if he does show he is fully ready that he gets the start from the beginning. Games in April mean same in standings as in September and you want the best team all the time. I am also not convinced they will do this in part, with the CBA coming up and this is a huge issue for union, and it should be, I think teams might try to not blatantly do this the year prior to CBA is up. If they do, I hope Kirilloff never resigns with Twins as a lesson to them and any team that does it. As much as I want him to be with Twins, provided he becomes what I hope he does, I would cheer for him to stick it to the Twins for messing with his service time. It is up to Kirilloff to force their hand this spring though. Twins historically have not manipulated service time coming out of spring. There may be some you could point to, but there are many times guys had hot springs only to fall flat on face in April. Aaron Hicks comes to mind several times. What happens if Kirilloff breaks with team, for first 2 weeks hits sub .200 with like 40% K rate, can they send him down without being called out for manipulating service time? -
AL Central Rundown: Second Basemen
Trov replied to Andrew Thares's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think with the question marks of Polonco it is fair grade for him, but think he will transition well and hit fine. Not with the power of two years ago with the dead ball, but still be a good plug and play guy. Mandrigal is an interesting guy. He is old school style with contact hitter and little power. Sox do not need the power from him and if he can get on base and play good defense he will be an annoying guy for years to come.- 5 replies
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Pigs In A Blanket: St. Paul Saints Start Season On April 6
Trov replied to Parker Hageman's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Not surprised the schedule plan, it reduces possible outbreaks within the league. Hopefully that will not be an issue by mid-summer anyways. They will get to know their opponents very well. I think that will need to be taken into account when accessing players. Facing a team for a full week will lead to seeing same pitchers a lot more frequent, and facing only a few teams all season will be similar. What I would look at is how players make adjustments during those 6 game stretches to how teams are playing. That is a sign of a good player that learns how to adjust when teams figure them out, or when things are not working. -
Baseball is such an interesting sport that building a team to make the playoffs does not mean you will win the playoffs, and so rarely the best team on paper win in the playoffs. It is a game of failures. The fact we have not won a single playoff game for 18 straight is actually kind of crazy. They are different teams at different times and continue to fail. I mean how many teams in history has had 18 game losing streaks ever, not too many. The trend that I always found was we never seemed to play like we did during regular season and teams would jump on our mistakes and we would fail to jump on theirs. In short series those mistakes get highlighted so much. I also think over the years different little things can be pointed out that led to failing. You play the season to make the playoffs and hope you are hot when get there. A single additional player will make little difference in the playoffs. We talk about the need to add pitcher x or player y but we have no clue how either will do until the game is played. Over the long haul we may have idea which player will have more value, but in that single game or series we have no clue. I am looking forward to the season and hope we can finally get it done.
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I always liked him and his heads up defensive plays when he would range up middle throw home on the guy breaking from second hoping to score. He was just too streaky to count on to be the go to offensive guy. When he was on he could carry the team, but when he was off he would drag them down hoping he would get hot again. How many seasons would half the year he be well below replacement but other half be MVP level offense?
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Twins Daily 2021 Top Prospects: #6 RHP Jordan Balazovic
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I am big on this kid. He seems to be that under the radar guy that Faleve seems to be known for identifying. How many under the radar guys was he credited for helping draft or trade for in Cleveland? I am not saying he will be future Cy Young winner, but have high hopes for him.- 19 replies
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Notebook: Tatís Cashes in As Spring Training Commences
Trov replied to Nash Walker's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Yeah that trade for Sox will go down as an all time worst, even if Tatis does not live up to the contract. Shields did nothing for them. Not sure where Tatis would have played but they would have found a spot. In terms of the contract, it is a huge risk, but now it is a fixed risk. Sure he can have career ending injury, but insurance would cover that so that is little risk there, the bigger risk is injury that lowers his production. I think it is not a bad contract for the team. If it is the player they expect it is less than what you can expect he would get over that time. I am not an expert, but think he falls under super 2. At being MVP level if that continues he would be on Mike Trout level money by time he would be set to be FA at age 26. This gives him basically an 10 year deal at that age while buying out his arbitration years. I bet if they waited he would be looking at much more, unless he does not progress at rate he has been. -
Twins Daily 2021 Top Prospects: #8 Aaron Sabato
Trov replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I never said he was not the right pick, I just said not a fan of those type of prospects overall. He may have been the best available and I defer to the FO on that. Yes, you can get decent defenders that do not hit great for cheap contracts, and do not advocate for drafting guys that are not expected to hit. However, if you draft a guy that is only expected to hit, and he does not then he has no value to your team in the future. Also, if they can only hit and not field, unless it is at an extremely elite level, they have little value as well. My point was, guys that can do more than just hit HR, will have fall back plans if the HR do not carry over to pro ball. Maybe Sabato will be an elite hitter and HR hitter and I will be happy, but if he is not, then there is nothing else there and no fall back for him. -
Twins Daily 2021 Top Prospects: #8 Aaron Sabato
Trov replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Agreed that outside of those positions offense is needed. However, if they can be average on offense and average on defense they will still have a home, and may not be the high end guy you would hope for, but still provide value. Could Sabato turn into a good defender at 1B and then you can live with average output there, okay, but overall my point is I am not a fan of guys that only value possibly is HR. Not saying he was the wrong pick or anything, but not a big fan of those types. Yes, many fans were down on Buxton until he was putting up some offense, but I was not one of them because I knew what he could do on defense was better than anyone we had. Now that he is at least average overall with stints above average he is viewed as a much better player than before, but he still had great value when he was hitting below .200. -
Is there evidence that Falvene has manipulated service time in their tenure. I mean legit manipulate that many are expecting for Kirilloff? I am not sold that if he hits well in spring that he will not break with team, simply to get one more year of team control or an extra half a year of cost control. Maybe they will, but I do not recall a player they have actually done that too. Of course if he does not hit well in spring this will give good reason to keep him down, but if he rakes, I think he will break with team. If Arraez does play LF it will not help our defense at all. Unless he has increased his range I can see way too many balls falling in his area. The only way I let him go out there regularly is if he is hitting amazing. Happy Hamilton passed waivers, mainly for his sake because he has bounced around so many teams. I bet we will see him during the season. Many times teams will wait until after rosters set to pass guys through waivers to make room again. When the market gets flooded with waiver guys teams have more decisions to make on claiming.
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Twins Daily 2021 Top Prospects: #7 SS Keoni Cavaco
Trov replied to Tom Froemming's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
This will be big year for this kid. He will need to make strides to be considered still a good prospect. Not that he will be given up on, but if he does not show some strides others will start to pass him by on the pecking order. -
Twins Daily 2021 Top Prospects: #8 Aaron Sabato
Trov replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I disagree that almost all are boom or bust. There are many that may not become the offensive player expected or wished, like Buxton overall, but end up still being a good player because of defense. Pitchers that settle into decent bull pen pitchers are not busts, but never become great starters. With guys like Sabato, if he never hits well, he well never find a place on a major league roster, where guys that can defend well will find places, unless they are so bad hitting that you would rather have a pitcher hit than them. Even then, some teams will still be willing to have them play once in awhile if they provide great defense. -
I have always been and advocate for pitching and defense first to win championships. Yes, offense is important but giving up good defense for offense normally does not pay off. One case in point the White Sox in 2005, they won the ship and had great defense. Then they traded Rowand to Phillies. He was average hitter, but good defender. Sox started to fall and Phillies rose up. Now of course other players were involved in all this, but point is, a good defender saves runs, and pitches thrown. It does not always show up in boxscores but makes big differences.
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Minnesota Twins and Pitcher Matt Shoemaker Agree To Deal
Trov replied to John Bonnes's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I am not expecting big things from him, but I do love guys like him in the organization. They worked their butts off to get to the show. They learned how to get it done when scouts were not drooling over them. He just kept working and putting up numbers that team could not ignore. They are the types of guys that will do what it takes to stick around and help the team. -
Twins Daily 2021 Top Prospects: #8 Aaron Sabato
Trov replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I am never a fan of these type of prospects. They offer no defense and all offense. If they never develop the offense that you expect then they have no value. He may be a great hitter in the league and help the team in the future, but he is full boom or bust type. -
Is Target Field a Pitcher- or Hitter-Friendly Park?
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I personally think Target field is pitcher friendly, but at very least more neutral. The dimensions are deep enough and walls high enough to not be a HR hitter dream, but there is not a ton of foul territory. I have always felt to played pretty fair across the board. -
Which Twins Will the Deadened Ball Hurt the Most?
Trov replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think this will help our pitchers more than hurt our hitters. The 2019 "Bomba Squad" was not the plan going in. It was the result of the team and we expected similar results 2020, which did not happen. Now, if all the teams come back to some normal HR rates, that will help our pitchers with what should be a decent defense, depending on health. I do not expect a whole lot to change with the teams offensive thoughts. Mainly I expect they will still look at attack fastballs in the zone and try to hit ball hard. For most part, if you hit the ball hard good things happen more often. Looking forward tot he season. -
I would be okay with Dobnak and still love his story getting him to majors. He needs to learn how to get guys out faster though. He does not have miss stuff too much and so many foul balls are hit off of him. I think Simmons will be a huge difference maker for Dobnak and hope he gets another chance. I would not mind Odo coming back with the expected dead ball, or deader than last couple years, would help him a ton too. Similar issue with him is too high pitch count in a few innings. I know Twins hate sending starter out for third time through rotation anyways so high pitch count for 5 innings does not affect too much how they manage going forward. The prospects will not break with the team unless they are unhittable in spring or injuries to guys ahead of them.
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Twins Daily 2021 Top Prospects: #9 RHP Matt Canterino
Trov replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
If he shows good enough command and not just rely on the high velo I bet he moves quickly this year and if needed may get a call. This FO is not afraid of moving guys quickly if they feel they have the stuff. He will be one I will be checking in on in minor league reports. -
Twins Daily 2021 Top Prospects: 11-15
Trov replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I am looking forward to this minor league season, normally try to follow each level and last year was sad. This year will be very interesting because with the lost year we will need push guys up and not take the slower steps. I mean every player is in same boat, but will be interesting to see who performs and who does not.- 17 replies
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Twins Daily 2021 Top Prospects: 16-20
Trov replied to Tom Froemming's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I think Ober was hurt a lot by lack of minor league year. He is a fringe guy because his velo is not there, but velo does not equal success always. He seems to miss bats and that is key. Now, the question for him is did he just out pitch young guys, and when he faces more seasoned hitter his lack of velo will be an issue. Personally, I am not a guy that looks at velo anymore. Years ago when a guy threw 95 plus it was a big deal and sometimes that could get job done. Guys that get by with 90's and movement to me is something to look at. They will know how pitch to a guy use movement and hit all the zone to get outs. I do not care how fast you through if you get the outs. -
Revisiting the Kenta Maeda Trade a Year Later
Trov replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Early results you can say Twins win, but Dodgers gave up an extra starter they were barely using for a piece they needed. If you look just at numbers Twins win, but do not feel Dodgers really lost either. Time will tell in long run, but think it will be a win win for both clubs. -
Notebook: PECOTA Hates the White Sox
Trov replied to Jamie Cameron's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I can get why PECOTA ranked sox where they are. They did not perform well against good teams last year. They crushed Det and KC and PIT, but beyond that they were at or below .500 against everyone else. Yes some were only 3 games played and went 1-2. However, the point is, when they have less percent of games against DET and KC counting for overall standing they will not look as good. Sure, they may beat up on other lower teams, but DET and KC really swung the standings for Sox. PECOTA could be way off and Sox do well, but I can see where the rankings came from. -
Projecting the Twins Opening Day Roster: Version 1.0
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I sure hope the Twins do not try to manipulate service time of Kiriloff. One, after next CBA I expect a very different service time clock as that is a huge issue with players right now. It was less of issue when 29 or 30 first time FA were still getting big contracts but now that they are not seeking earlier FA is a huge thing for players. Two, if I was a player I would never sign back with a team that did this, nor would I sign any team friendly deals during arbitration times, similar to what Kepler did. I know nothing about Kiriloff personality or what drives him for making decisions, but for me, any time a team manipulates service time I would never want to deal with that team again. I get the benefit to a team like the Twins, but gaining 1 year of control or one extra half year of cheap control should have consequences. Also, you should want to put out the best team all season long, the games in April count just as much as the ones in September. -
Am I Still Excited About Willians Astudillo?
Trov replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
As much as I want to root for Astudillo, mainly because he has the look of the average weekend warrior softball player and root for him. He loves to play and no one expects much from him. However, if he takes up a roster spot all year I feel we are not putting out our best lineup. Yes, he can provide a third catcher, but subpar defense. He seems to be a nice guy, and would be a huge fan fav when we are putting up 100 loss seasons, but when looking to make playoffs his value is just too low across the board. I would like to see him playing in St. Paul ready to hit the I94 drive should we need him to be back up catcher for a short period. Other than that I would not like to see him on the 26 man roster.

