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Byron Buxton Isn’t the Next David Ortiz
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
To compare the two is a poor comparison. Ortiz was not a top prospect that played elite defense and at times was possible MVP if could just stay healthy. Health was something that kept Ortiz back, but Buxton will be snatched up in a heart beat if he is not resigned. Ortiz was a bench player when the Red Sox signed him to a low paying contract. It took an injury to their starter to give him a shot and he ran with that. I did not read the article, but the only comparison I can see is that if Buxton leaves he could have a few great seasons with another team if he can stay on the field, but what led to the non-signing is not the same. Yes, Twins made huge mistake of letting Ortiz go, but he may not have become what he did in Boston if he stayed with Twins as well. Buxton if he stays healthy can be a top player in this league for a few years. Everyone knows that. I think Buck will continue to turn down offers unless the bank is broken for him. He will test FA to see if a team will bet on him staying healthy. There may be some teams willing to take that bet knowing he is a bonus and not some to count on. Mid to small market teams cannot plan to pay huge sums to someone that may not play much. Teams like Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox can pay him large sums and if he only plays 50% of games they are not hurt by it.- 32 replies
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Looking Back at Michael Pineda’s Twins Tenure
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I would look to bring him back. He may not be a top end guy, but he is above replacement value. I also feel you need at least 1 or 2 vets in the rotation over the long season. I do hope we have a bit more of a youth movement in the starting pitching, but bringing him back would be fine by me. -
What Happens to the Twins Emerging Star?
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I am worried to make moves expecting Miranda to just come in and be MLB guy for years to come. He put up huge numbers this year and should get a shot next year, but to just slot him in can blow up in your face. I am never a fan of moving established guys that can at least produce at MLB level for unproven guys that may not produce. That being said, if Donaldson can be moved for some value I am for it, but if not I would look to move or dump Sano. That would free up a spot for a few guys to play. Even if you keep both, not having a set DH like Cruz you can use that to rotate guys around.- 52 replies
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How many teams have a SS that is a good fielder and hitter? There are very few SS that are considered top fielder and top hitter, so you could say most teams FO have failed if that is a bench mark for success. Most teams have to decide if the bat makes up for the glove or vice versa. This is similar to Catchers, very few are great on defense and good at the plate, and teams have to decide if they are good enough on one side to make up for deficit on the other.
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The Uncertain Future of Twins Catching
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Catcher as always been a defense first position. If you get a catcher that can hit and play good defense that is a bonus. I would prefer not going with both Garver and Jeffers platoon as they do not make a good platoon. If you want one to be regular guy and other to be backup getting a game or two a week fine. If you want more of a normal split I would look to have Rortvedt as the second guy. I would be open to trading either Garver or Jeffers for the right deal as long as you have a planned backup guy to come in when someone goes down with injury.- 44 replies
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The award is not about best prospect, but about the best numbers overall. The award is not saying Varland is the best pitching prospect but stating he put up the best pitching over the year. The fact he is older than others does raise the fact he is not a top prospect, as prospect rankings take age and projection into account. Maybe Varland climbs system quickly next year, or maybe he just sits in the minors, only time will tell. I do not think anyone is suggesting he should be number 1 pitching prospect for team, but he is a name that was not high on prospect list but may be rising now that he actually got a full season of pro ball.
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Twins Daily 2021 Minor League Hitter of the Year: Jose Miranda
Trov replied to Nash Walker's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
As exciting as his breakout is, I am not expecting him to come up next year and be a force. If he does great, but do not expect it. I have a feeling a youth movement in the next season is coming and it may a boom or bust kind of thing. I could see Miranda, Lewis, Martin, Kiriloff, Larnach, all having major rolls in next two years. Not to mention several starting pitchers having major innings. I think if that is the plan just go all in with it next year. It may be a rough next year if they do, but it will also give them all some good experience than just trickling them in.- 16 replies
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Has Miguel Sanó Increased His Trade Value?
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If the NL does adopt the DH as many expect, then he may have some value in the trade market. No team will want to bring him in to play 1B. He is not elite enough of a hitter to make up for his defense. For teams that have never had a DH there may be teams willing to go out and take someone like Sano. That being said, he value is still not that high to expect much in return. He will not get a MLB ready top guy. Most likely if he is dealt it will be for either a lower level prospect, or for someone in a similar situation, position of possible depth and a change of home may make a difference. Overall, I do not think Sano is going anywhere unless a team really feels they can unlock him and get the player everyone wish he would become. At this point he is who he is, he will strike out a ton, hit monster HR, and when hot he can carry a team for a few weeks, but when not he will be a very feared number 8 hitter. -
You bring up the perfect question of what comes first, playing time or showing you deserve playing time in the limited at bats you do get? Would Rooker benefit from regular playing time? Maybe, but how long of failing do you give him before you put someone else in? I personally would move on from him. He has no trade value for anything more than a complete flier prospect. Bad fielding middle of road hitting OF are everywhere and no team will be jumping at chance to get one. We saw this with Eddie, who is a much better overall defender and hitter than Rooker has showed, but no team had interest in Eddie. I would DFA Rooker, see if a team claims him, if not let him play back in minors to see if he can be consistent in AAA and then if needed give him a call up. I bet someone will claim him, but I also bet he becomes one of those DFA by many teams hoping he passes through waivers only to be claimed for a few days. Unless he can hit at an elite level either power or average, he offers nothing to a team.
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Game Score: Twins 7, Blue Jays 2
Trov replied to Matthew Taylor's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
You actually are hitting part of my point right on the head. You point out he did terrible for a couple of months, which in his history of moving up levels he would do horrible at each level for a couple of months. Everyone would say well he is struggling and clearly a bust, only to bounce back and have success at the level and people think he may just make it. That is his trend to struggle at each new level. I am not advocating for being SS, or even that he should play every day or anything. I am pointing out that every level he played at he started slow and took a couple months to start turning it around. I just wish in a lost season he got more playing time earlier and not bouncing back and forth so much to see what kind of value he may have going forward. I am not ready to write him off just yet.- 19 replies
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Game Score: Twins 7, Blue Jays 2
Trov replied to Matthew Taylor's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I know some want to write Gordon off as a miss. However, if you look at the history of him moving up the ladder, he normally would have rough starts at each level and then after a bit of time he would increase his output. I wish he would have been given a lot more playing time this year to have a much better idea of what he have moving forward.- 19 replies
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Ranking What Went Wrong with the 2021 Twins
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I would say very poor bullpen early played a huge role. So many games were lost early in the season with late inning blow ups. I put little stock in complaining about injuries, every team deals with them. Yes, going through like 10 OF options is not common so the fact so many injuries happened in one position does tax the depth a ton. The pitching injuries you always expect and need to have the depth, we did not have that depth. It is hard to point to any one or even three things that blew up the season because it was different things at different times.- 14 replies
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3 Twins Players Set to Bounce Back in 2022
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Dobnak I expect a bounce back. He never was able to get on track all year. Colome I am not sold on coming back, but my guess they will since he had some recovery the second half when forced to pitch. Jeffers will get his time because he is good on defense. He may end up being a low .200 hitter with some power, but if he plays good defense he will have a job for a long time in the league. If you get offense from a catcher that is normally a bonus.- 35 replies
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Three Starting Pitchers to Trade for this Winter
Trov replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If they can get anyone for cheap return I am fine with brining any of them in. However, the more you give up the more you are expected to keep running the pitcher out there even if they are a fail. We have many of our own guys to look at without being tied to someone because of what we gave up to get them.- 29 replies
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Game Score: Cleveland 3, Twins 1
Trov replied to Jamie Cameron's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The way Joe walked off mound it sure looked a lot worse than just a bruise. He walked off without even having it looked at. I wonder if he makes another start this year.? -
Game Score: Yankees 6, Twins 5
Trov replied to Thiéres Rabelo's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The electronic zone does change based on the hitter and is not a static zone. It is also used to grade umpires on their calls by MLB. If MLB uses the system to determine if the ump is doing well at calling balls and strikes why do they not use it to actually call balls and strikes? There was a study done several years ago, and it showed that one, umpires got the borderline calls right about 50%, so better than a coin toss. Two, it showed that on those calls if they had called it prior, they were less likely to call it again. Also, more umps were less likely to call them for a third strike. What the study showed was umps would think about the count, the situation, and history to make the calls. It is one of the hardest jobs in the world to do, but the league could take those human elements out of the game and get the right call all the time. It will happen one day, I just hope sooner than later. If it is a strike it should be called that way, no matter the score, the count, home team, the hitter or the pitcher. None of that should influence the call, but studies show it does.- 45 replies
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Marten should have not get in the second run down. Once they threw home he should have stayed at first. I have no issue pulling a pitching prospect in 6th with a no hitter going. If he was at 88 pitches after 8 then I would say give him a shot at it, but no way at current pitches he was going to complete the game and he has had arm issues over his career, like all pitchers.
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I would be willing to give him a 1 year low pay contract. If he is healthy he is a good starter, not great, but good. If he is not healthy or is not effective it does not hurt to move on from him. I just would hope they would not keep throwing him out there like Happ this year.
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Twins Worst Free Agent Signing Ever?
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
For me he is not the worst, mainly because he is not that far off of what he has shown. Good defense and poor offense. Yes, the offense is worse then expected but it is not like signing a guy you expect to carry your offense and they put up those type of numbers. For me, Tsuyoshi Nishioka is by far the worst signing that I can think of. The main reason is he did nothing for the position he was signed for and never really contributed. The money was not crazy high, but it involved us sending a good SS to Baltimore for two pitchers that did nothing for us. The signing made JJ Hardy expendable because we thought Nishioka would play there. Well, he never did play there and he was trash the few games he played anywhere with the Twins. At least the signing of Simmons did not result in trading someone away because we had him. Simmon was always expected to be a 1 year thing. Was he worse than expected, yes, but for 1 year that is all we put into him. Nishioka was years of issues connected.- 66 replies
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Joe Ryan Is Better Than His Scouting Reports
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I am not going to say he is going to be a top of rotation guy based on 2 starts. Yes, his last start was great, but many guys in MLB history have had at least 1 great start with no-hitters or perfect games and HOF pitchers never had those. His stuff looks decent, but picking apart Cleveland is not a huge deal, their offense is not good. Lets pump the breaks on him and putting in Ace status. There is a reason Tampa, who needs to keep pitching pipeline depth, was willing to give him up for a rental player. Maybe Tampa was missing something, but they normally do well in their decisions. -
A Big Takeaway from the Twins 2021
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I fully agree. Prior to Falvine coming in our team laughed at advanced stats and doing things like shifting or playing against norms. Now we go full 180, and they are all in on advanced stats. I am of the thought that mixing the two is best practice. Sometimes players do not fit into the math mold or the norm and that is not a bad thing. To me the advanced states and thoughts on bunting or stealing only looks at the whole game but not at the player. Because players get told you cannot bunt because history shows it is bad, they never learn to do it well. Some guys bunting will get them on base, and if they have the ability to steal they can get the double that you want him to hit. Sure not every guy can do this, but why have a 100% never for all players? Same with the third time through rotation, not every guy follows that general rule and some do better if they get to a third time because they have figured out what is working that day well. Some guys have breezed through the first 2 times, why not let them see a third time. Not every pitcher will have it going each day so if the guys is going well, no need to pull him for a pen arm just because math history says so, let the game develop for each game.- 17 replies
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I still think Dobnak can contribute. I think his success with the slider in spring made him use it more than he should. He is a sinker ball pitcher and his success has been with getting soft contact on ground. What had kept him from going too deep into starts was he did not have a clear out pitch. The slider is meant to be that, but it appears he started using it earlier in at-bats. I hope rest of this year and going into next year he gets back to his basics with the sinker. Then when at 2 strikes use the slider. He should not be throwing the slider at 33% clip. It should be a surprise pitch mainly as it will break different from the sinker. Really good sinker guys can keep throwing the same pitch and the hitters know it is coming but it moves enough that they will not barrel it up. With the slider, if he throws it for a strike it will get crushed. He needs to always throw it to the edge or out of the zone to not get hit hard. He was hanging the sliders or leaving them up, which books on sinker pitchers are if the pitch is up swing, so if the slider is up they will swing.
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Game Score: Twins 3, Cleveland 0
Trov replied to Jamie Cameron's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I would be fine giving Gant a chance next year, but no matter what he does the rest of the year I do not say he has a spot for sure. He has pitched several years, will be 30 next year and has never established himself as a starter. Some of his numbers may be connected to pitching in new league for first time and once hitters see him again they will adjust. Maybe the Twins figured something out for him, but I am concerned this is SSS. Should we give him an invite to camp next year if he wants, sure, but if another team is willing to give a full MLB level contract as a starter I would not stand in his way.- 32 replies
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Game Score: Minnesota 5, Cleveland 2
Trov replied to Nate Palmer's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I am hoping Ober can carry this over into next year and he is not another flash of rookie ability only to fall flat later on. It tends to happen with some pitchers that once video comes out on them and more scouting they get lit up later on. The fact his velo is up and he is doing better than when he started gives me some hope.- 26 replies
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