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Oh, so a very good, outstanding player even, has a bad pitch. And suddenly he's a goat? So Pablo allowing an extra run or baserunner or two, or nobody in the lineup getting a clutch hit, makes Jax a "goat"? We're talking simple semantics that I object to. I don't believe that term applies here. I think its an unfair label to a top player having one hard to hit pitch being nailed for the winning difference. It's derogatory in my mind. And if you find it an acceptable term for any player to be responsible for losing a game, then every single pitcher and position player has been a "goat" at some point this season in a loss. Teams win and lose as a team. If you believe someone should be labeled as a goat in every loss, that's your opinion. I find this conversation to be dull and limited in scope, and over henceforth.

It's irrational to give respect to a good team playing good ball but stating my opinion that position by position, man for man, overall, I believe the Twins stack up better if both teams are healthy and putting their best team on the field? Offensively, the Twins outscore the Guardians. That's just a fact of real numbers. A healthy Ryan in the rotation, and even a healthy Paddack, the Twins are probably at least even in SP. The Guardians have one of the best pens in MLB, a given. It's NOT being a HOMER to look at numbers and see truth. I believe the Twins are the better team, overall, fully healthy vs a fully healthy Guardians team. And if being a fan makes me a HOMER, then so be it. I try to examine everything with an accurate lens. And if you are a Twins fan, then wouldn't you be a "homer" to some degree as well? Or do you just prefer to be negative and troll vs having a real and logical diacussion?

Not saying you're wrong. I want to say they did the same thing a couple games ago when he also finished off an inning on a couple of pitches? My objection is one of the top RP doing the "up-down" over a pair of innings that he's not used to, and having a night where a hard to hit pitch was NAILED and then calling him a goat for the game. I think he deserves better than that. Plus, the offense was just poor in all crucial opportunities the rest of the game.

I think you nailed it. With all due respect to Cleveland...and I mean that sincerely...I would put $ on a healthy Twins 26 man roster up against a healthy Guardian...(still can't get used to that name)...most any day/series. But Cleveland just doesn't make many mistakes. (Not saying the Twins do). And they have a great pen. They nickle and dime offensively, keep the opposing team down, and then nickel and dime the offense to a winning run total. The season isn't over! Who knows what can happen in a short series! But right now, the Twins lineup has been injured and terribly inconsistent. And the reliance on injured players and 3 rookies in the rotation has just been tough to deal with. SWR has been awfully good until starting to hit a wall. Festa and Matthews have flashed, and will learn a ton from their experiences this year. But the rotation is hurting, and the pen hasnt helped. Of note, I believe the Guardians relied heavily on 3 or 4 rookies in their pen this season. When we look at the Twins for 2025...getting ahead of myself here I know...and the arms coming back and on their way up, I wonder if they might not trust more of the young arms at the ready for a potentially young and talented pen going forward.

I hate this loss. But I also don't like the headline. Jax might have been the losing pitcher, but he's not a "goat". That's lazy headline writing. Jax is one of the best RP in MLB. He came in to finish off the 7th in a tight spot and got the job done! Then he was asked to sit down and come back in again, something he's seldom asked to do. And he allowed only his FOURTH HR of the entire season on a hard pitch that was high and a bit inside. And the batter did a hell of a job to jack it. Meanwhile, the Twins bats went silent after the 3rd inning despite chances to add to the lead. Jax may have taken the loss, but he's no "goat"!

HOPEFULLY Kepler feels better ENOUGH to go on a mini tear to finish out the season. It's got to be Julien or Lee down to make room, and there are arguements for both to stay or go. Because the suddenly hot Farmer...healthy and productive after reportedly playing hurt a lot of the time...swings from the RH side, Castro and Lee switch hit, and Lee is probably the better backup to Correa, I'd probably send down Julien. I have little hope Tops or Paddack ride to the rescue, but it's still possible one of them does. Not banking on it. But in any discussion about the pen, are we talking the remainder of the season? Or are we talking the playoffs? They are different discussions. The Irvin signing MIGHT pay off for some extra IP to close out the season, maybe even provide a little rest for Lopez or Ober or SWR, depending how the next 2 weeks go, and if the final series against Baltimore matters. Extremely disappointed in Varland's last outing. He needs a complete re-set in 2025, and as a pen piece. But for now, he's still one of the best arms the pen has available. So you have to hope for the switch to kick in for the remainder of the season and playoffs. Festa probably sticks in the pen come playoff time, unless you want to hold him back as a potential #4 starter. But for the 1st round, I'd say he's in the pen for sure. I think the idea of bringing Headrick up as a LH in the pen is interesting, if a bit desperate, but it's not a silly idea at all. Funny, but I like the projection of the pen in the playoffs more than I like the pen to finish out the season. Does that make sense? The Twins are closer to things than we are as fans, and see things we don't always see/know. And there's still time to make a decision or two as to who's up and who's down. But right now, they have the issue of who can be trusted for innings. Henriquez has been OK, as has Tonkin, for the most part. Still not sure about Blewitt. Percentages say the Twins make the playoffs unless they just blow the last 2 weeks. Biggest problem might be the #3 starter, and the depth pieces before we get to the top arms in the pen. But again, i almost like the postseason pen better than I like it right now.

Before the season began, the Vikings were projected for 6-7 wins. I saw that as possible, but I was more optimistic than that. QB was a concern. Darnold is talented and hasn't exactly been a disaster as a starter, more average than anything. But the talent was there. Even with Hockensen out to begin the year and some questions about GUARD, the offense was poised to do well if Darnold, still only 27yo, could begin to "mature" in to his arm talent with this system, coaching staff, and the skill players around him. I still think the DL is questionable and missing a difference maker to team with Phillips. But the LB crew and SAFETIES are very strong. Despite disappointment, injury, and even the death of prospect Jackson, I think the FO did a great job of adding on the fly with some solid FA signings to get CB as strong as they could. Age and depth isn't great, but might be enough to form a solid unit for this season at least. Two games doesn't make a season or promise any certain number of wins or playoff possibilities. BUT, if the progress we've seen from Darnold, if his maturation is for real, the Vikings could be a pretty good team. I think there's a lot to like here as every position group is at least solid, if not good.

Would they consider a pen game, or a short start for Ober if the WC is locked up? If the Orioles series doesn't end up meaning anything...at least the last 2 games...they could go a number of directions to ser Ober up for the #2 WC game couldn't they?

It's a nice reward for Lewis, who should be there next year, and would have been sooner almost certainly if the beginning of his season had not been delayed due to injury. As excited as we all are...and rightfully so...for Matthews and Morris, we have to remember that Lewis was the MILB pitcher of the year last year. He might be just as good, or better, than those other two. (BB were a little high this year though). I'm a bit confused by the Raya move. Granted it doesn't mean he's going to begin next year at St Paul...very doubtful considering the numbers on hand...but it still feels a little strange other than as a pat on the back "at a boy" for a solid finish to his season. I think the Twins are about ready to take the gloves off and turn him loose for 70 pitches plus early next year, post the customary first few, restricted starts that are the norm. But he's got some things to work on, including stretching that arm out. Yes, having even a single start at AAA is exciting for him, and a nice reward for hard work. But is this also a chance for different coaches to see him in person maybe? Otherwise, I'm just not sure what the one start really does at this point.

In 2021 and 2022 he had generally solid numbers across the board for the A's, even with low K numbers. He made 30 starts or more each season and had almost dead on 180 IP both years. Nothing great, but solid. I'm sure he was helped by the ballpark there. If he had a little more velocity, he'd be the kind of LH arm I'd be pleading with the Twins to sign on a cheap deal this offseason to transition to the pen at this age/stage of his career. I think this is a case of availability to add some last minute help to eat innings without calling up Morris, or similar, when you have a veteran arm available. The fact that he has a pair of arbitration years left doesn't hurt in case the Twins see something they like and believe they can work with for 2025. It's a pretty blah mover but it's either a veteran arm that drops in your lap, or another rookie, or a AAAA guy to help eat these innings late in the year. They chose the veteran arm from the left side for experience and a different look. Nothing exciting, but not a bad move either

Not disagreeing with you. The only way he doesn't get a half season at AAA is if he's blocked by other healthy arms producing. But my $ is on Cory Lewis. I think he'd be in the same conversations we've had in regard to Matthews and Morris if he had been 100% to start the season.

The worst part, for Dunn at least, was losing the opportunity to finish strong and carry on some of the positive momentum he had to close out the season. And as stated, I'm sure that will be in consideration to how the Twins view his season. A 10th round pick isn't early, but it's not exactly late either. Being LH with some K potential, and only his debut season, he'll almost certainly be back in 2025. Still can't believe Bender deliberately affected an individual directly like this, and his team as a whole, helping to eliminate a playoff opportunity. Just an abysmal way to act.

Nice to see Ohl have a good final start. Really disappointed in his year. He threw so well in about 2/3 of a season at AA in 2023 I thought he might begin the year in AAA. He's usually a good strike thrower, even though henisnt much of a K pitcher. The BB were still OK this season, but his K's were down. I don't know what changed this year, but the HITS given up were much higher than the previous 3 years. He just seemed to lack consistency this year. Hopefully he'll bounce back strong in 2025.

Nice to see Raya finish the season strong. Have to remember he just turned 22yo a little over a month ago, and his career got off to a slow start by being drafted during covid and then having a shoulder issue that delayed him another full season. I'm betting he begins 2025 back in Wichita, but probably with no, or fewer, restrictions on his pitch counts. It's time to let him loose. Wichita might not be quite as strong as St Paul in the rotation to begin next year, but it could be really close. Now, if they could get some offense, they could be dangerous.

I might copy a few things @Riverbriansaid, but I'd like to add, at the least. LEWIS: For all the glorious moments he's given us in 2023 and this season, let's not forget how inexperienced he is. He has already exceeded games played at the ML level, despite some injury setbacks. Do we dare remind ourselves time missed from his early knee injuries? He's a star player in the making, but he's still human, and still learning, adapting, and growing. Just like his defense at 3B, solid, will be better, and the throws are probably just an abnormality that he'll adjust to. Heck, maybe he even moves to 2B, or even 1B to make room for Lee and Keaschall or Culpepper, WHO KNOWS? But the talent is undeniable! Expectations to be an MVP are just silly due to the flashes of what he can be, and might just be. LEE: The glove and the instincts play wherever he plays. The bat will be fine, if not very good. He's a rookie who started late due to his back, and then he had a shoulder injury. He's going to be fine. Everything he does and learns this season only sets him up better for 2025 and beyond. CASTRO: I absolutely LOVE this kid and I'd like to see him stick around for a few more years. I think he's proven himself as a quality ML player. But he's been asked to play almost DAILY this entire season. I hear whispers he's a little banged up. Everyone is this time of year. And while he excells playing all over, injuries have forced him to be a daily stalwart that has probably drained him. Best thing that could happen foe him is a return of Correa so he could take a day or two off. ALCALA: Let's just accept that when a RP has a bad stretch, poor results get magnified. Tonight, he allowed a BOMB to put the game against the Reds out of reach. He's got the stuff to be an important part of the pen going forward. BUT, I'd argue ALL DAY LONG on how he's been used this year. The demotion he had earlier this season actually seemed to give him a new focus. And he came back firing high velocity bullets like he's never shown before! But the reality is he was MISUSED early in the season by being asked to throw 2 innings, occasionally 3, when coming back from 2 years of injury. Honestly I've NEVER seen a talented arm treated this poorly! 20 ML IP in 2022 and 2023 and he's at 50 plus right now. Throw him 1 inning at a time next year and you have a potential stud. MIRANDA: He had to get healthy and right. He did. And his work at 3B has turned him in to at least a competent option there. And then he hurt is back. He hasn't been horrible since his return, but he hasn't been the same. I don't recall him being injury plagued until his shoulder issue in 2023. Is the back issue an abnormality, or part of the recovery process? I think a healthy Miranda is pretty good. But an unhealthy Miranda starts to "reach" too much for contact. Can the Twins ever have a "normal" season in which so many good players have injuries??!! Buxton may never have a full season. But this is getting ridiculous. There is a theory, presented here on TD by our own visiting expert physical therapist, that when a major injury happens...witness Lewis for example...that it takes the rest of the body to adjust for a year to adapt and get used to all of motions and activities of playing ball to compensate and return to "normal". If this is accurate, then Royce and Miranda could be expected to feel more "normal" in 2025. The same might be hopefully stated for Buxton since his knee seems to be sound, and his hip issue is reported to be scar tissue breaking up, which might be part of the whole previous knee issues he had. (Ugh). HOPEFULLY, Correa will have new shoes that provide the support his feet need to eliminate and further plantar issues. Yes, I'm digressing. I'm just adding to the "what if" scenario issue of improvement going forward for the players mentioned, the team, and the overall impact. But I also want to add that in addition to the "what's up with these 4 players" I think we should take a moment to recognize some good things taking place. Wallner and Larnach seem to have established themselves. Despite very mixed results, every inning thrown by SWR, Festa, and Matthews is building them up for 2025 and beyond, even if a couple of them have been pressured to finish the season. Lewis and Miranda will be fine if healthy. Alcala needs to be used properly. Castro is good, and important, and will be fine if he can just get a break once in a while.

If Petty turns out to be really good, it won't change the fact that the trade worked out well for the Twins. They got a front line SP for 2 years for a rookie level HS arm with potential. And while the comp pick...DeBarge...may or may not turn in to something of quality in the future, you make trades of this nature for the NOW, and not for "what might happen". If you only grade trades for the future, you might as well never make them, and stop trying to improve your club via that route. I have mixed feelings about the Mahle trade. I was actually STOKED when they acquired him. IIRC, there was no major medical issues with him other than some "tired arm syndrom" which happens, and is usually nothing more than a strain, or something similar. Certainly, not a precursor to a TJ elbow situation. And after the shortened 2020 covid season, he threw a career 180 IP in 2021 for Cincinnati. A little "tired arm" didn't alarm me, or apparently anyone else considering. If you recall, Lopez had a few mild injuries while still with Miami before the Twins traded for him. I thought they grabbed a guy who just about ready to take the NEXT STEP while working with the Twins staff, and out of the band box that is the Reds stadium. I think that's what the Twins thought as well. I'd love to have Steer back. I'm not sold on CES. Time will tell. Hajjar wad tough to lose, but he hasn't done much yet, due to injury for sure. But at the time, the trade made real sense. Medical technology is great today, but I don't think either side of this deal saw a future TJ injury. I think fate, bad luck, or the baseball gods just saw fit to make this turn out poorly for the Twins. In an alternate universe, Mahle gets right, his elbow doesn't give out, the Twins might still have traded for Lopez, and those 2 guys are probably your #1 and #2 starters. But again, sometimes you make trades to improve your team. And once in a while, you get burned.

I don't believe Duran has been quite as good as he has been the previous two seasons. That doesn't mean he hasn't been good, and affective overall. And Nick has done a good job of showing the underlying numbers. When you K a high % and have a low BB % and a low HR %, you SHOULD be successful. And while not quite as dominate as he has been, he has been largely successful. I know some of the results haven't been good lately. But everything is magnified for a RP when they have a bad day, or bad luck. By bad luck I mean a fly ball that drops in, a seeing eye single, or a bad play by a defender. One run allowed is USUALLY OK. Two runs can often lead to disaster. For a starter, over multiple innings, that's part of the game. For a late inning reliever, it can be a loss. Nobody is perfect, and again, things get magnified when it happens to a reliever. I still trust Duran. I won't excuse him, however, for a few too many honest hits this season, or a few too many balls hard hit. As successful as he's been, I think he's been a little "off" at times. The question is, has he just been a little off with some of his command? Has the sequencing been a little off at times? Or, as crazy as it sounds, is throwing 99-101 making it easier for batters to time his stuff and maybe he should take just a little off of his splinker and curve to change the batters timing? I think he's got a DOMINATE repertoire overall. But throwing 101-103 consistently is pretty tough. Again, there's probably just a few tweaks in delivery and sequencing that might make all the difference. But I keep thinking his secondary offerings with just a little change in velocity could really befuddle the batters.

To be honest @chpettit19 pretty much said what I was going to. But I'm still going to add a nit. MILB success doesn't guarantee anything at the ML level. However, his career MILB quad slash is .271/ .379/ .517/ .896. Over his 3 ML seasons thus far, despite some ups and downs...literally...hes carrying numbers of .251/ .367/ .518/ .885. So far, his ML numbers have surprisingly paralleled his MILB numbers. While in the minors, what he always did was reach a level, struggle a little, then figure it out and adjust. He's done the same thing at the ML level so far in his young career. While you don't WANT 35% K's, he's always maintained a solid AVG and OB%. That compliments his power, and is "livable" if you don't have a bunch of other high K batters in your lineup. But I can see him continuing to grow and learn and drop his K rate down closer to 30%. That makes a difference over a season. Defensively, he won't match Kepler. But the truth is, Wallner runs quite well and is pretty fast. The problem is it takes him a couple steps to get going full speed. And he was a RF almost exclusively in the minors, before playing mostly LF when with the Twins. That takes at least a little bit of adjustment time. On top of that, RF in Target has a few nuances he has to get used to. Again, that means adjustment time. Time to "read" the balls better in RF, a solid athlete, good speed even with a mediocre "start", combined with an accurate CANNON of an arm, he'll be solid, if not good, in RF. And while he'll never be vintage Kepler in RF, I'll take solid...potentially good overall...and a bigger, better bat. I do think he's undervalued by some at this point. And if you focus only on K's and not being Max in RF, we'll, you might never appreciate him, unfortunately. But if he's solid in RF with big production, appreciation SHOULD grow. I'm a fan and believer.

For whatever reason, Julien started relying more on having a "perfect" eye and being less aggressive. Who knows, maybe he's better at balls and strikes than most umps. But it doesn't matter if he is if he stands there, doesn't swing, and tries to work the count for a BB. At some point, you still have to be aggressive on a pitch that's in the zone that you SHOULD be able to make contact with. And for whatever reason, the balance we saw in MILB previously and what he did in 2023 just seemed to disappear. I keep wondering if he didn't get frustrated early this season and fell in to complacency? I don't think his chase rate suddenly rising is a great sign. But at LEAST it's an indication he's trying to swing again. Now it's a question of finding the balance he was known for previously, patient, good eye, but strong swings for the hittable stuff in his zone. Defensively, he made massive improvement over the course of last season. Even early this season, he looked solid there. Lately, it looks like while his hitting has improved some, his defense has slipped. I still like the ability and the work ethic. And I'm not going to bail on a ML sophomore with talent and potential. And I'm not going to bail on Martin yet either. But other than a few plays here and there, Martin has been average to pretty poor wherever he's played this year. And with Margot back..(meh, he's a solid veteran I guess)...and Keirsey as a better defender and probably as good/fast or better/faster than Martin, it made sense that Martin was the guy sent down at this time.

100% agree. Couple comments: 1] I wonder if the Twins try to move Paddack to save $ to spend elsewhere and open up the #5 spot to competition? 2] A 6 man rotation for St Paul is possible. (Dobnak is also under contract still as well). They could also take turns skipping someone every week and let them throw out of the pen as a long man. But could Nowlin join Headrick in the pen as early as next year? I think it's possible. 3] Agree Varland is a reliever from here on out. Potentially a very good one. 4] AA Wichita could have a pretty good group in the rotation as well.

Read reports of this late last evening and couldn't believe it. If you are having a mental/emotional crisis, if you just feel burned out from the past 9 months, if there's a problem at home, just tell someone. I'm quite certain the Twins would have been understanding and get him the rest or break or help he needed. Just no excuse for sabotaging other players and your teammates as a whole. If he's having issues, I hope he gets help. But again, no excuse to hurt other people and their careers. As to a mention above, the original articles I read stated he was to keep his signing money. I find that hard to believe, but that's the way it's been reported so far.

I hate the idea of removing Nowlin from the rotation and turning him in to a reliever at this point. The guys has good stuff. His hits and K's per 9 are both quite good. The BB are too high, but if he could be a little more consistent there, he's probably a legitimate back end starter with #3 potential. But then again, he's behind a handful of other arms in the system, some of them literally ahead of him at AAA and the ML level. And the Twins could sure use some quality LH arms in the pen that are more than just good against LH bats. Moran comes back in 2025 from TJ and has a great change to throw to RH. Funderburk has the stuff to get both sides out if he can just gain some more command. Does Headrick move to the pen starting next season? Rotation depth is great, but don't you want the best 13 arms you can get for your staff? Nowlin might be one of those best 13, or close to it. And if he doesn't seem to have a clear path to the rotation in the future, it might be time for that pen move. It's only about a week, but nice to see Rodroguez and Jenkins finish the season healthy and each a level up. **Are McCusker and Eeles both viable options to help in 2025 and we're discounting their rise just because they've been on an abnormal trajectory?

Is this supposed to be another article condemning ownership being cheap this past offseason and not adding better players? Or is the OP stating the Twins are investing too much in "distressed assets" overall? Yes, Buxton is injury prone. This season it really looked like he was going to play over 100 games before his hip flared up again. Last season they had a pretty good backup option in Taylor, and even Castro as a secondary option. This year they did not. And the 2023 payroll was a record high. So the Twins weren't cheap last year but they were this year. Is that the point? Correa being used as an example of being a "distressed asset" is SO FAR off the mark it's almost absurd. He was limited to 75 games in 2019, and played almost all of the games in the covid 2020 year. The 3 years before that were 153, 109, and 110 games played. From 2021 through 2023 he played in 148, 136, and 135 games, even though he was hurt most all of 2023. But his plantar issue has NOTHING to do with an ankle that was repaired while still a teenager. And the plantar injury is not something remotely predictable. I'm surprised Lewis wasn't mentioned as a "distressed asset" after suffering a pair of knee injuries as a prospect. Surely they should have predicted that, right? Perhaps, as a result, they should have expected the various soft tissue injuries he's suffered since then and moved on? Or maybe they should have somehow signed or traded for another starting caliber 3B as a precautionary move? Yes, every season right now means planning on having Buxton for 90-100 games max. And being cheap and not adding to a quality team with a chance to win, or adding someone like DeScalfini is a poor choice. But you simply can't predict injuries. They are going to happen. And the best thing you can do is build the best and deepest roster you can each season to mitigate against them. But at some point, injuries will just happen. And sometimes too many of them happen to compensate. Again, who could POSSIBLY predict Correa would end up with the same injury this season on the OTHER foot? Then Lewis gets hurt. Then Lee gets hurt TWICE, once before the season even began. Then Ryan gets hurt. Miranda and Castro get banged up. A handful of pen arms are hurt losing depth. As a fan, I'm ticked off about the cut backs that could have helped this team with greater investment. And other than a couple of questionable moves over the years, I don't feel the team has greatly invested in "distressed assets" to build the club. Sometimes crap happens to the front line players, and even the reserve options, and you're left scrambling. It stinks! But I doubt anyone saw this many injuries happening, especially when they were one of the top 10 winning clubs until a few weeks ago.

The Twins know Keirsey better than I/we do, that's a fact. I have no idea if he...or Helman for that matter since he's very similar in this discussion...can hit ML pitching. But until he's given a chance, nobody really knows, including the Twins. He may prove to be nothing more than a AAAA ballplayer. But he has had a really good season at AAA with fine production. He was excellent in 2023 at AA, and dipped when he reached AAA, though he wasn't bad. The arguement shouldn't be "replacing Buxton" IMO. That would seem to imply he'd be as good, or close to, and that's just a fallacy I'd say. But by "replacement" do we mean a solid FILL IN, we'll, he might be if given a chance. If his defense is actually good, and there are many reports he is, then that's a positive considering Margot and Martin...so far, maybe Martin can improve...haven't done the job. He has some pop and can run and steal bases. Playing good defense and having a 90-ish OPS at the bottom of the order would be more than acceptable as a "fill in" for Buxton in that context. Since 75% of the ML arms are RH, who cares if Keirsey bats left? Unless your team has a bunch of switch hitters, you're almost always going to have to play 1 or 2 LH bats in just about every game. Getting a cup of coffee this late in the season is going to prove little to nothing. Honestly, I think he should have been brought up over a month ago to hopefully improve the defense and get a chance to show what he might be capable of. He isn't some late round pick. He was a 4th round, athletic selection by this FO. He struggled with injuries, missed a year due to covid, and started becoming a real hitter/threat 2 years ago. I've seen too many bad plays in CF from Martin and Margot that, again, I think he should have been up earlier. Or at least when Kepler was pretty much regulated to bench warmer over a week ago. He may surprise. He may fail. But when you've got a 27 yo at AAA doing a really good job and injuries hit, why on earth don't you take a looksee at what you have in your own backyard? And that's what frustrates me the most. He should have been up sooner. He should play now to see if you MIGHT have someone who can help now, and possibly next year. You need solid reserves in addition to your starters. Just ignoring someone who might help your ball club because he's older is very short sighted.

Rodriguez, Jenkins, Buxton, Wallner, Larnach, and maybe 1 of Rosario or McCusker as an extra RH option? By some time in 2026 at the latest? Sounds really exciting to me.