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  1. Woof Bronzer
    They literally did nothing last year?
  2. Woof Bronzer
    The Pohlads are worth somewhere north of $4 billion dollars. You are suggesting that a $150 mil payroll is spending more than their means? Can you explain your math to me? To me $150mil is well short of $4bil, very much within their means, but perhaps you disagree.
  3. Woof Bronzer
    Trying to understand if this is a joke or not. Just about every risky starter we've traded for has gotten hurt, and many of the guys we gave up in return have been positive contributors for new teams. In my opinion this "process" has been an unmitigated disaster, though it's hard to totally blame the FO for this year because they were prevented by ownership from improving the team. When you self-impose spending constraints you end up with "wish and a prayer" guys like Descalfione instead of good players like Sonny Gray. Which is why bottom-third payroll teams simply don't win World Series.
  4. Woof Bronzer
    He said every year. Which is accurate. Don't let facts get in the way though!
  5. Woof Bronzer
    Guy who literally posts spreadsheets defending the Pohlads suddenly wants to "move on". Can't make it up. I don't blame you though, the Dbacks prove false your thesis that all teams do and must act the way the Pohlads have acted this offseason. They don't, it's a decision. The Dbacks had postseason success last year and decided to build on it, even with TV uncertainty. Smart move.
  6. Woof Bronzer
    Can you answer the question: if you have a budget, and you get one-time revenue, is it smart to budget for that revenue in future years?
  7. Woof Bronzer
    If anyone can debate it, Mr. Ready will!
  8. Woof Bronzer
    For a guy who constantly excoriates people about "facts" you sure have a tenuous grasp on them. You somehow forgot the largest FA contract in Twins history. And $30 mil for a backup catcher. So yeah, other than the $230 mil you missed, good comment!
  9. Woof Bronzer
    Carl Pohlad did a lot of "right-sizing" when he foreclosed on family farms coming out of the Depression. He enjoyed it so much that he returned to right-sizing in the 70s and 80s when he got into the fun world of corporate raiding. And who can forget the Pohlads offering to "right-size" the Twins franchise via contraction if the city didn't pony up with some welfare for a new stadium. You could say "right-sizing" is a Pohlad family tradition!
  10. Woof Bronzer
    I applaud Joe Pohlad for his honesty. I rip the Pohlads when they lie and it's oddly refreshing to see the a Pohlad so baldly and concisely lay out their vision for the Twins. Mentioning Tampa and Baltimore as models for success was no accident: they had 2 of the lowest payrolls in baseball, and neither has won a World Series in Joe Pohlad's lifetime. Success, to the Pohlads, has nothing to do with winning a World Series, and Joe wanted to make sure fans understand this. I hope fans listen to him!
  11. Woof Bronzer
    Your argument is....what exactly? Are you disagreeing that the Twins got a $500m handout? Are you disagreeing that the Pohlads threatened to leave or contract the team if they didn't get their handout? You are screeching about "how things work" but provide nothing to the contrary. I'm sorry if it triggers you but those things happened. If you don't think there's a correlation between payroll and success, can't help you. Since 91 only 1 team 18th or lower in league payroll has won a Series. I cheer for the Twins to see them win; the Pohlads operate the Twins solely to make cash. Yeah, the Pohlads affect my fandom. Do you think, say, A's fandom is affected by the actions of their owner? Did George demand welfare from his city because he needed it in order to produce great hot dogs, threaten to leave the state if he didn't get what he wanted, successfully receive that money, and then spend several years producing crappy hot dogs and pocketing the excess welfare to line his own pockets? If not, do you think this is an appropriate analogy?
  12. Woof Bronzer
    The stadium deal? The one where the Twins invented a secret group of investors that was going to move them to North Carolina if the Twins didn't get the stadium? The one where, when that tactic failed, the Pohlads went all in on threatening contraction as their next hostage strategy. The Pohlads literally sent out a letter to their staff saying fans didn't spend enough on the team so they were going to get contracted, oh well. The TF stadium saga was done in bad faith, in smoky backrooms, with the sole intention of getting a public handout and lining the Pohlad pockets with millions of dollars of other people's cash. It's interesting how selective you are being with the options. Why? The entire AL Central has had more postseason success than the Twins under Pohlads 2.0. So, all of them? How about Houston in the West? 7 straight ALCS's, might they be doing something right? To answer your questions, probably every owner except Oakland's. Cleveland's and KC's might be a push. If we may expand this exercise to the rest of the league, the model that none of the water carriers ever mention is St. Louis. Very close model to us, very similar market size and that franchise is a well run organization that proves that consistent investment in the product leads to long term revenue gains in TV, fan engagement, etc. They've won Series, they're consistently good, and fans love them. But I'm sure you'll come up with some excuse why we can never be like the Cardinals.
  13. Woof Bronzer
    The fact that other bad owners exist in the world does not give the Pohlads a pass in my book.
  14. Woof Bronzer
    This article describes the process of managing a payroll that every single team is faced with. There's nothing unusual about the Twins situation, so let's hold off on the sympathy for having to do their job. For reference, an extra $45mil to the Pohlads is the equivalent of $523 to the average American net worth. Those poor, poor, Pohlads.
  15. Woof Bronzer
    Hahahha the Twins propaganda machine has brainwashed you into oblivion if you think any MLB owner takes a loss, ever. The value of the franchise has grown by a billion dollars since they bought it, and the team received a half billion dollar subsidy from fans. Yes, the people of the state of MN have helped make the Pohlads even more wildy wealthy than they were, and yes, I think that means the Pohlads have a civic duty to spend appropriately. Professional sports franchises are NOT "just another business". Every business does not receive welfare to the tune of $500mil, so why would we treat the Twins as such? I continue to be blown away by the number of fans who blindly do the Pohlads propaganda work for them in order to...what? I don't know. I really don't.
  16. Woof Bronzer
    They predetermined that Ryan was going 2 innings in his one start. He could have been pitching the game of his life and they would still have yanked him. I don't know how else to interpret this other then "we don't trust this guy." And you certainly know there's a different approach to roster construction in a best of 3 series, so I'm not sure why you'd pretend that not wanting to roster your #4 starter for a 3 game series is the same thing as skipping your rostered #3 starter on full rest in Game 1 in order to start your #4 starter, and then predetermining a 2 inning limit for him in Game 4. What a weird comment.
  17. Woof Bronzer
    Others may be forgetting that the Twins did not trust Ryan to start G1 of the ALDS on full rest.
  18. Woof Bronzer
    Daily reminder that since 1991 only 1 team with a payroll lower than 18th has won a Series. Spending does not guarantee you a World Series; not spending enough almost guarantees you won't a Series. "Spending wisely and keeping our system full" has resulted in one ALCS appearance in 3 decades.
  19. Woof Bronzer
    Why? She's absolutely right, cities should not be subsidizing billionaire owners.
  20. Woof Bronzer
    Yes, a well run franchise like St Louis, in a smaller market than us, that invests in winning and treats fans well, generates more revenue than the slash-and-burn "blame fans for the losing" strategy employed here. Glad we agree!
  21. Woof Bronzer
    This is so laughably false you can't possibly believe it. The Dbacks have the same situation as the Twins this offseason and chose to invest. The Padres, in a much smaller market, made major investments a couple years ago. The Royals, much smaller market, just spent $300 mil and have the highest payroll in the Central. Not to mention the Cardinals, probably the best comparable to the Twins in terms of market. Their business model for decades has been long term sustainability - I think last year was the first time in 20 years they were below 500 - and as a result they have one of the most loyal fanbases in the sport and a very consistent revenue stream. These teams made drastically different business decisions than the Pohlads, who chose to pocket the unanticipated playoff revenue, cut payroll, make the team worse, and dampen the enthusiasm of a fan base who just witness the first playoff win in decades.
  22. Woof Bronzer
    Yes, because the Pohlad's prioritize short term profits over long term sustainability - due to greed - they refuse to consistently invest appropriately in the product on the field, leading to a lesser product and accordingly less attendance/revenue. Do you think revenue is static? There's X amount of dollars in each market and the team gets that X every year regardless of success, marketing, etc? Please explain then how the 1988 Twins drew 3 million fans and the 2023 Twins drew under 2 million.
  23. Woof Bronzer
    Also, has the Twin Cities market shrink since 1988, when the team drew 3 million fans? I'm really stumped as to how we could draw 3 million fans in a concrete bowl 35 years ago, but we can't draw 2 million in a great outdoor ballpark. What could it possibly be?
  24. Woof Bronzer
    It's partly incompetence but mostly greed.
  25. Woof Bronzer
    I think the vast majority of fans do not care about simply winning the worst division in sports, or at least they don't anymore after how many seasons of winning the Central and then faceplanting in the playoffs. At some reason you have to have postseason success. The Twins drew 2 mil in 87 and 3 mil in 88. Fans care about the playoffs.
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