TheLeviathan
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I wouldn't mind calling Teslaa a hit! He's sure as hell 1 billion times the hit Ed Ingram was. Or Mekhi Blackmon. The only players that KAM has drafted that been better their rookie years than Teslaa were Addison and maybe Jackson. Both of whom were taken two rounds earlier by the Vikings.
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Hedged pretty hard though.....
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This. This right here. God I hope this breaches the bias we keep dealing with on this subject.
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O'Neill played today didn't he? Jones probably won them the Giants game. Had we been running Chandler we might have lost one game there. Some of it is just giving up via playcalling. Run more and throw less. Blitz less.
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The Chiefs are actively finding a way to do it right now. Jets. Cowboys. Titans. Raiders. Commies. Teams should invest in their future rather than care about how people feel in the present when they're terrible and going nowhere.
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Sorry, but does Kwesi really know what he's doing?
TheLeviathan replied to DocBauer's topic in Minnesota Vikings Talk
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Lots of teams find ways to lose. This is not the impossible ask you make it out to be.
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Here's another thread making the same arguments. So McCarthy = Maye or no? If it's no...then your arguments were wrong then and they're wrong now.
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2 less wins is worth an extra 2nd round pick in value. Those sorts of things add up. 2 less wins a few years ago and we have Drake Maye instead of JJ McCarthy. Is that irrelevant too?
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This is the key. We got nothing of value and unquestionably lost future value for it.
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The empty wins will feel even worse if Flores takes those as resume builders and leaves. Seriously, what's the argument against the indisputable loss of value the team got? Did you feel better about anything on the team for 2026 thanks to these wins?
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I mean...by your own accounting other teams absolutely did phone it in. This is a team that could've shut down quite a few players like Jones, O'Neill, Kelly, Greenard, (and I'm sure there are others playing through things) that would've likely lead to a loss with Dallas. Or even the Giants. Would it have been kinda ugly and hard to swallow? Sure. It's also massively valuable to your future rather than sunk cost.
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If your goal is only Super Bowl and all things are seen through that filter, then you should be even more in favor of tanking in a lost season. Can't have it both ways.
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For those of you dismissing the loss of draft position, let me put it in some context: Say the Vikings had held around 10th in the draft. They had potential to be higher had they bottomed out (4-13 would have been no worse than 7th), but let's say for the sake of argument that they won a couple games and finished with 6 wins instead of 9. The difference in draft value from 10th to 18th is roughly equivalent to pick 40. So a high second rounder. These wins we got at the end of the year cost us a high second round pick, plus the drop in every other round subsequently. It is a massive loss of value in every quantifiable and qualitative way you can imagine.
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There are some games that swing is much bigger though. Does 49ers vs. Cards not make a difference to you?
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Somehow I cashed that Vikings over bet from the beginning of the year. I've never felt worse about winning money.
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Looks Ham and Smith officially hanging it up.
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I thought the Dallas and Detroit games were really impressive. You're right that in the back half of the schedule they've faced a lot of teams that have given up (Packers, Commies, Giants) and then others where they were less impressive like Chicago, Green Bay. So I have some skepticism, but here's what I do see: the pass rush is playing well. They seem to have cleaned up the run defense issues from early in the season.
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Good for Hammer.
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Yeah, I'm not majorly disappointed in Jackson so far but I'm not impressed either. It hasn't been what I hoped.
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He's taken a great development step these last two months. He's becoming a legit force.
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This version wasn't that impressive against a team that got sliced and diced last week. Seattle went ground and pound...which is not KOC's style.
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Even more than the 1st round talents, our spot in the 2nd round may cause us to miss out on the best safeties after Downs. Or linebackers if they slip.
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I do not believe any of those players will be there at 18.
