It is amazing how many good teams, and great pitchers, can loose to bad teams. Including these Twins (if they qualify). I remember the recent 5 game series at Chicago. A team will always need victories against poor teams. A win is a win is a win. Until the playoffs. I can't negate a good performance because it may come against bad teams and offenses. I can't and won't. It's also amazing how many great offenses can perform horribly against a great pitcher having a great day. Or if you are the Twins' offense, it seems, it can even happen against a bad pitcher having a great day. "I became a good pitcher when I stopped trying to make them miss the ball and started trying to make them hit it." -Sandy Koufax It is interesting, even in other sports, that some great players don't seem to do so well against teams with winning records.... take a look at these quarterbacks that most would have liked to have on their team..... Aaron Rodgers 21-29 Drew Brees 20-48 Matt Ryan 17-22 Matthew Stafford 5-46 (new highest paid NFL player in history) Tom Brady 50-33 (well, he is Tom Brady...) Russell Wilson 19-12 Gibson changed everything about his delivery. That is a brave move. It may be gelling. I don't sell out on Polanco. I am not selling out on Gibson, yet, not with what he has done and is trying to do, for the long term. We need victories against all teams to get to the playoffs. If we get there..... we need a ton of luck, no matter who pitches.