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  1. Try to extend first if they do not want a reasonable extension, you have to trade them now. We don't know what the offseason will bring or even if a new CBA will be signed before a work stoppage in 2022. If you can not get it done, max value is now, because even small market teams can afford the contract for this year and next.
  2. If you go for a rebuild, then you have to admit the current regime is a failure. Don't think we are there yet. We still have to listen on Buxton and Berrios and if not extended must sell by this winter. Problem is the new CBA is an unknown which is likely to make buying clubs reluctant to give major prospects for this year of contention, if there is possibly a short season or no season next year. To me it depends on buxton and Berrios. If the FO does not know the status, they should be fired. Pohlad will probably need to approve the money to resign them, but this should be known at this time.
  3. IT will be interesting to see the quotes of the departing players. Most will say nothing, but there might be an outer or two
  4. Try any of the rookies, Winder would be my choice as first option. We have lots more.
  5. Yes, time to DFA Happ. It is time for the prospects, nothing to lost now.
  6. Get Winder up here, he can't be any worse than our group of starters!!
  7. Outside of Rogers and Berrios, I do not believe there is a long term pitcher left from the Ryan era (I know about Jax, just do not think he is any more that a 5th starter, long man now). All the next wave has come in the last 5 years most of it drafted in 2017, 2018. With the current injuries we will see how it works out, but you can never have enough pitching. Next two years will tell, if the pitching is still bad we will be looking at starting over.
  8. I understand the problem. You don't want to hand out 2 - 3 year contracts if the kids are going to be here next year. So you tread water and hope it works (it did not). The cupboard was bare when they were hired (or almost so), so a 5 year window is about right. They lost last year, so next year is 5 and we should start seeing pitchers arrive and some will make it and some will not. After next year we will know. We don't know if either Buxton or Berrios will sign a long term deal. If neither will, we will have to trade them, as the return of 0 or little will really put this franchise back. Still need to get the hardest thing to get, which is more possible front line pitching . End of next year of 2023 we will know if this FO is a success or you next to find the next FO to fix the problem
  9. I also see 5 - 6 to be protected. Though 5 seems to me the number most of us can agree on. Nice list. As stated above Moran is an interesting case. Do not know where he ranks. A few other pitchers doing well like Vallimont, what is his position and does he need to be protected. One grip I have with the FO is that they gave up on some pitchers too soon, and some of them are doing well. (Wells for example).
  10. I think some of you are correct. I do not see 6/200 because of his health issues. I can see 6/150. If the Twins do not know what he wants the FO is much worse than reported. With his latest injury, it will be hard to get full value this summer (I know it sucks). If he wants more than 6/150 or close, I believe the Twins have to trade him this year, and go for the bigger rebuild. We do not know if their will be a season next year (full or shortened). The CBA is likely to undergo major changes. Either the QO could be removed or FA moved to after 4 years or 5. If the owners go that route, I would guess they would want a hard cap, that is not going to happen. So there is a lot of risk here. I would pay within reason, but don't know status or if reason is even a possibility.
  11. If you want to stay competitive, you have to pay both. If not (especially with Berrios), you are looking at best at 2023 and probably 2024. That is why money comes in, and that comes from the top.
  12. This is as much a Pohlad issue as the front office. We do not know budget or targets. Injuries have played a big part, but the path forward is very tricky. At this time they need another year or two until we can fully evaluate the pipeline (especially the pitching, which is supposed to be their strength). I feel we are on the path to being competitive year in and year out, which will be a nice change given the decade long dips, valleys and heights we are seeing now. Consider 2020 a lost year and they have had only 4 years to produce. A normal cycle would be 6 or 7 for a mid market team like the Twins. However if next year is more like this year, then you have issues. Big step will be will Pohlad give them the money to pay Buxton and Berrios and should they. That will determine the short term path of this franchise. If you pay one or both expectations rise, otherwise you are looking at 2023 at best or 2024 before we are fully competitive again, and that is only if the young pitching arrives. That will tell the tale.
  13. we have an owner with more resources than Cleveland, so this should not be an issue
  14. I hope Happ does not start either game this week, though I don't know who they could go with
  15. Two things you did not touch on 1. With the CBA issue will there be a full season next year. 2. With changes to the CBA expected (and I don't know how it will go down), do you dare to lose both Buxton and Berrios for little or no compensation? This is the elephant in the room for the FO. It is also why I expect there will be only low ball offers this year for 1 1/2 year FA's (unless you can find a bidding war).
  16. That could happen if the virtual office stays for some companies. It is what is driving the housing market in the Twin Cities and Duluth at this time.
  17. I think Miranda is more like mid 2022 or 2023 if he can make it. He needs to move to AAA and see how he handles it the second half of the season. Pitchers there have more variety of pitches including decent offspeed.
  18. Yes, but key here is whether Berrios is extended or traded. If he will not sign here you are more into a rebuild (especially if Buxton will not sign either), We need to find out if any of the 4 - 5 decent starter prospects will pan out (best guess is 1 - 2). That will lower the spend. We may get lucky and find 3, but we need to know. That is what the rest of this season is about. Look at Cleveland, they always seem to find enough pitching to be above .500, we need to go that route.
  19. So might some of us, but not going to happen. Would much prefer they put their money into pitching. Pitching wins.
  20. You can subtract your bottom 5 relievers with 2 - 3 rookies and hopefully a good FA signing or two. Most of that should happen this year with cutting bait on Smeltzer, Farrell, Stachek, Thorpe, and maybe Thielbar (hopefully trade him to a team that needs bullpen help this year (most contenders do). Starting pitching needs an upgrade unless this is a total teardown, but the good news is the offense does not need more money. Garver as stated about is a very good trade chip, and probably should go that way.
  21. First if you can't get Buxton to agree to an extension you have to trade him if it works. My guess with next year being unknown you will not get good value for him (unless you can find a bidding war). Gordon right now is SSS, give it another month before deciding what to do with him. He or Polanco could man short for a year until Lewis or Javier (hope, hope) arrive and take the position. Sano has no trade value except as a give away or a throw in. Kepler could be the odd man out in the outfield if you are able to extend Buxton, and you have to find a spot for Arraez. Cruz is as good as gone along with Simmons. We still have a month, so this list may change, but that is what I see.
  22. I liked it at the time, it did not work out. Ok, not all will.
  23. 5/100 will not get it done, if that were the price I believe it would have been done now. With no guarantee of a season next year buy prices might be lower than we believe, tough position. Berrios may command 1 100 top prospect (probably 50 - 75) range and other pieces. I do believe this FO has a clue, so it would probably work out, but don't want to go there.
  24. I think his agent has a clue. At least one team will pay him funny money and that is all it takes. It could be 6/150 or more, we don't know the ask(Yankees or Mets come to mind). Good pitching plus wins, I am in favor of paying him (more than Buxton, and that could be a mistake too), but only the FO knows the ask. If you start getting up near Cole and Bauer money it gets tough. A good # 2 starter is now 20+ a year, Berrios is that. If he wants ace money, that is where it becomes difficult.
  25. Problem is if you don't sign him and he walks the return could well be zero. How far will that set the franchise back
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