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  1. Fatbat
    I imagine a healthy Buxton in CF for 140 games and a healthy C4 at SS for 157 games. Both playing at all star level results. You can't buy that in this offseason for what we are paying them and we might already have it rostered with no trade clauses at under $50M.
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    His defense got better from the start of 23 to the end of 23 so to say he won’t improve anymore isn’t even logical. He is young and is bat first. He can even figure out how to hit better against lefties. Doesn’t mean he will but he definitely has the ability to improve.
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    Its is certainly possible that the Twins with 3 top 50 prospects and an actual core of YOUNG MLB talent will be an insanely good team if its kept together. Without considering injuries, we could build a dynasty for the next decade. I know there are plenty of jaded commentators on this site that nit pick every little flaw players have but the fact remains that the Twins have some absolute studs and not just 1 or 3. The FO knows it, thats what they do. Its their job to assemble talent and win championships. At some point they will trade for positions of need (SP for ‘24). At least we can now trade stud for stud instead of being a bottom feeder team. Who is untouchable? Whoever is still here because no other team gave up the correct amount of talent to get them from us.
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    and then added 20%. The FO is gonna replace gray and then we get to see if the young guys develop to deliver more production. Next man up …. Again and Again.
  5. Fatbat
    Its not like he tried to bust his knee and pull muscles. Injuries happen and it messes up careers but if he comes back and just plays solidly and stays healthy, he is the best player we have in the outfield. Yup, he is wound up tight and fragile but that doesn’t mean he wont age well.
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    I like Gilbert but not at those prices.
  7. Fatbat
    Gilbert for kep and polo. Sounds good! Too bad it probably won’t happen but what other prospect would have to be thrown in to make it work?
  8. Fatbat
    Not me, I wanted Maeda back and I would have given him the QO but Im not in charge. If Paddack somehow becomes reliable in ‘24, at 28 years old, I would extend him thru 2027.
  9. Fatbat
    Even if Paddack has those kind of high end innings, we still need another ace.
  10. Fatbat
    Dan Hayes had a great story in The Athletic 11/30 about what the Twins’ expectations of Paddack are for ‘24. Falvi and Maki both expect high end innings from him. There was a great point made that if CP doesn’t have the arm fatigue, he could go well above the innings and results of Maeda’23. I’d trust Maki to know what his players are capable of.
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    @Hawkeye Bean Counter just counting beans over here… 25 quality starts x 6 innings = 150 innings so your right in the money. I would have to believe thats what the FO is penciling him in for. Its may be the high end of expectations but like you say, if he is healthy and get outs, he is gonna be on the bump.
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    @Mike h Are you saying that Paddack’s ceiling is #4 and no better? Or just that way since thats what he was 3 yrs ago at age 25 and had TJ 3 years before that. He only has 350 innings on him in MLB so its not as if he has a long track record of anything but blowing his UCL. He has 6 more years to be viewed as either washed up and gone or holy cow did he mature and become a hell of a pro SP. Other than health, how can a #4 starter be his career ceiling?
  13. Fatbat
    Totally understand that combo and I’m just playing devils advocate. I think this years market is going to be super tough to find a Pablo type and if we have to give up Lee to do it. We better be getting more than just the one guy because Lee’s future value could be much more than his current value. As a fan, I don’t want to watch him in the all star game with a different cap on in a few years from now.
  14. Fatbat
    But in the real world, if you need a 2nd baseman to play opening day ‘24. would you trade for Arraez or Lee?
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    I believe thats just an upside hope that he will be a solid #2 guy. That might be his ceiling if he stays healthy. I don’t think anyone can point to any prev production that says with any certainty that CP will be throwing 150 innings of 3.3era 1.17 whip ball. That just defies logic but damn it would be nice. lets just stay with the Maeda ‘23 numbers for now as that seems like a solid expectation. The innings I want Paddack to throw are the 20+ come October 24. Thats only going to happen if we sign another ace or someone on the staff steps up and reaches their ceiling and has as an absolute career year. Maybe JB is the next Varland, maybe its Festa. I think it’s a bad bet for the FO to not bring in another guy or two. But those $$$ are hard to come by.
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    @Major League Ready 1 trade per yr x 2 teams in a trade / 30 teams = 15 years… I like my trades like my steak medium rare. Baseball and math 💀👍🏻
  17. Fatbat
    We will roster up and pitchers will pitch. We have a great base of players so add an arm or two. Hopefully they out perform expectations. Didn’t we have 26 blown saves in ‘23? How about we don’t do that again…
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    I wouldn’t rule it out and I wouldn’t rule out him being an injury or August call up as a SP if he stretches out to 5-6 innings this year and his whip is around 1.1
  19. Fatbat
    Its a bit early to conclude if the contracts are bad. So far, if you want to say they have production lagging behind pay, that’s entirely fair. If we didn't have Buxton or C4 around the last 2 years, who would we have filled the roster with? Hard to say and its equally hard to say these contracts are good or bad. Jury is out in my book because you don’t buy injuries you buy the upside potential…. Or you go to the FA market and pay for past performance. Both are necessary evils.
  20. Fatbat
    This is why I dislike comparing minor leaguers. Every player is different and develops at different times. Has their own ups and downs. You can’t progress as a team without bringing up rookies every year. When they are ready, they absolutely have to be brought up and see what shakes out. The ‘24 roster doesn’t need to rely on rookies but we do need to move forward at some point instead of bringing in reclamation projects to block the rookies that are ready. Neither one of us knows when each one will be ready, thats above our paygrade but we definitely get to opine here on what we as fans want to see. For instance, I’d be ok with MAT or Kiermair signing for ‘24 but if it blocks Martin or Kiersey when they are ready, it would be a waste of time, talent and money. Playing Gallo into August was an example of just that. Moving forward, many have thrown Miranda overboard just because he was hurt and didn’t contribute anything last year. What if he comes back and is a solid contributor in ‘24? I’m sure the FO has some sort of idea about his health and it’s possible that is why they haven’t pulled the trigger on getting a RH bat vet signed. Come February/March, we will have a much better idea where our 40 man shakes out.
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    Or you bring up a minor leaguer like they did with celestino and wreck them.
  22. Fatbat
    The same way Northwest Airlines merged with Delta Airlines. A bankrupt Co can buy or get bought if it pleases the court and a financially healthy co is the end result after the books are gone thru and certain assets are sold/retained and so forth.
  23. Fatbat
    We got plenty of vets getting paid well that don’t produce any better than our rookies last year. At least we aren’t holding our youngsters back on a slow walk. Lee for example has been promoted as soon as he has been ready and will likely get another promotion in early ‘24, just as soon as he is ready. I would much rather go down that bumpy road than wasting money on gallo and archer. I’d also hand CF over to Martin as soon as he is ready rather than paying 3-8 M on an average vet. I don’t want to be average. I want to watch young stars of the future take a few lumps and bumps and develop into above average vets. It quite obvious kiermiars and hopkins arent going to sign with us. I want to see Lee, Martin, Severino, Headrick, Varland, SWR, Festa, Canterino, and another rookie or two contribute sometime in ‘24. We already have a really good 26 man roster with a few questions to be answered. I’m not one bit worried that the 26 best will be available open day and we will be central div champs in ‘24. Its what we do between now and the trade deadline that will determine how October goes. A few roles to fill and a long time to get it done. In the mean time we all get to spout off on our opinions. Thats what this place is for.
  24. Fatbat
    @tony&rodney I agree that Paddock has a higher ceiling than Maeda which is why they let him walk butI would have offered him the QO to get either the extra draft pic and extra signing $$$or the stability of less player turnover. The FO chose the cheap option by letting him walk for nothing safe budget saving.
  25. Fatbat
    I am ok with Gray getting a QO and declining it because we got a draft pick back. I would have done the same for Maeda because we would have had two better outcomes. 1.we got Maeda as a one yr rental/tradechip for 20.5M or 2. We get another draft pick before the 3rd rd in’24. Both are better than nothing except $20.5M unspent. Its most likely that Maeda would have turned down the QO anyway because he wanted a multi year deal so we basically threw a draft pick away.
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