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I can agree with this, although I must also admit that neither has been impressive. Trade Gray, Maeda, and others to try to get someone potentially useful. Of course, there may not be a market for either/any of the Twins right now.
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The only trades that will help the Twins are big splashes and that seems unlikely. They may be content to roll with the guys they had in the system from the beginning of the year.
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Rumor: MLBTR Twins Rumor Roundup
tony&rodney replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
If the Twins are to be a team of Bundy, Archer, Farmer, and Gallo types now and into the future, they will never need to part with desired players. All of those guys are or have been good professional baseball players. There are many other examples. The trade for Pablo Lopez was controversial for both teams because very good players changed uniforms. I would argue that Pablo Lopez and Luis Arraez have more value for their current team than they did for their former squads. Encarnacion-Strand is going to be a strong bat and Spencer Steer has come on way more than expected. Despite these two developing in such a positive manner, I have to wonder who is stepping aside in the infield for either guy. The Twins do not need to trade top prospects to have a successful trade deadline or improve their roster. They do need to decide on positions for their younger players. The team also needs to have a more clear direction on the general philosophy of baseball that the team desires for their roster. -
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tony&rodney replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
What does San Diego want for Hader? Larnach and Headrick? Add Winder? Maybe that is nor enough. Will the Twins commit to Julien long term at second base? Royce Lewis at third base? What about Brooks Lee? Can any of these three (or Kirilloff) bring a pitcher like Logan Gilbert from Seattle? Wallner, Polanco, and Raya for Gilbert and Brash? San Diego has shortstop locked down for years. What do they want for Jackson Merrill? Is Sonny Gray plus someone like C. J. Culpepper enough? I don't know what direction the Twins are heading at this moment. There are teams willing to trade and the status quo is not good enough right now. The Twins need to hit better and they need some help in the bullpen. Adding a strong starter with years of control remaining at the expense of one of their top young hitters along with a top young pitcher works too. The Twins need a little shaking up. I'm not discouraged by the sweep at the hands of the Kansas City Royals as much as the manner of the Twins play. Strikeouts and eschewing all avenues to score (stolen bases, sacrifice bunts, cutting down on swings, hitting behind a runner, etc.) while hoping for the long ball have not been too magical thus far in 2023. I still think that 82-87 wins are probably enough to win the AL Central, but recent losses put an increased importance on the games versus Cleveland. I would like the Twins to make a few trades. I don't see anyone but Walker Jenkins as untouchable. -
Perhaps people are feeling that teams such as Cincy, Baltimore, San Diego, and others are down one more choice and eager to add pitching.
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Game Thread: Twins (Ober) @ Royals (Lyles), 7/29/23 @ 6:10 CT
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The Mets won't get much unless they also send money. Reality crushed the Mets glorious spending spree. Now they need to go back and try another path.
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Witt Jr. is a really exciting young and talented player. He was better than Duran tonight. He shortened up his swing and still drove the ball. I never celebrate wins or loathe losses when the game enters Manfredball. MLB isn't on board either or it would be in use in the playoffs. I do realize that many fans love the ghost runner and quicker extra inning endings and everyone in the business gets to bed earlier as well. So it goes. Ober is pitching tomorrow night, which has been a positive season long event thus far.
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Are you a football fan? Baseball has a really long season and the Twins (and many other teams) have a long tradition of frustration, dating back to 1991 for the Twin. It's just a journey. It all ends well. Every year, one team wins the World Series, their fans are happy, and all of the other teams enter the offseason with hopes of assembling a roster to win next year. It's all good. That's how it turns out. Now you know.
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Too many strike outs. We need more bat to ball in the right situations. The team K totals are a downer.
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Oh I think the Twins would add a pitcher like Marco Raya/ David Festa as well as players like Noah Miller and Tanner Schobel to add to something like Wallner and Polanco. The names can be different, less or more. It is really all about whether Seattle feels the Twins actually have the players in their system that are worthwhile to pursue while offering one of their guys. Once a discussion starts, many names can be thrown around.
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Seems like a fair idea with an outline that supports your plan. I'm thinking both Farmer and Solano could be moved to return useful players that help the Twins this year as well. I'm not in favor of Renfroe however.
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Trades cannot happen without conversations. Right? Names like Larnach, Wallner, Lewis, and various others may be of interest to Seattle. They lost a tough 18 inning playoff game last year by a 1-0 score. They want to get back to the postseason. Their fan base is outstanding. Seattle has a bunch of good pitchers and need hitting. Their minor leagues are not showing anyone likely/ expected to contribute in any major way in a few years. It does make sense for Seattle to see what is out there in exchange for one of their young guys on the mound. St. Louis has a couple of players of note but both have had their struggles. Tyler O'Neill has 1+ years before free agency and Dylan Carlson has three years left of control. Meanwhile Gilbert has four years left and the other Seattle pitchers still have six years of control. I think the Mariners would be more interested in some equal exchange of value in years as well as player talent. The Cardinals are not listening on Jordan Walker. Maybe the Twins can find an exchange, maybe not.
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Rumor: Dodgers Dealing for a Couple of White Sox
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Trade Deadline Strategy Thread (More theory, less names)
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I appreciate that some folks have been Joey Gallo fans for years and are feel threatened by Wallner taking his roster spot, but the awkward Wallner has more foot speed and actually gets to more balls than Gallo in 2023. It's not a foot race that Gallo can join any longer and Wallner actually has the stronger more accurate arm as well. The gawky, awkward nature of Wallner's game along with his inexperience means he is not an average outfielder right now. However, he is adequate. Nevertheless, Wallner needs to hit to hold his spot in the lineup, if Falvey doesn't send him down again. I'm not a fan of strike outs and Wallner needs to improve in that regard. Results still matter . My preference for smooth, athletic baseball players does not distort my understanding of who is performing. Wallner may fail, but he is an improvement at this time. Polanco returning and playing up to his past performance level is huge as is the expected return of an athletic Royce Lewis. Those are big additions, if they pan out. I'm less confident in some sudden return to competence from Byron Buxton. The swing, approach, and questionable physical health have combined to rob him and us of some glorious baseball. What is his reality right now? It seems questionable at the very least. I still hope for a miraculous rebound from Buck though. I'm hoping there is a way to steal Hader and/or perhaps someone else for the bullpen. The hangup is cost. This is always the case. I agree that the very top prospects should be protected, but I'm also not missing Steer over Julien, Lee, Lewis, or even the fallen Miranda. This means there are prospects to trade in order to bolster the bullpen. I do not expect much to happen. Lopez for Floro seemed like a good change of place trade that also brings Jorge closer to home, which may bring him some peace and rejuvenate his career. -
They have both been very good at every level. They both have good eyes at the plate and can run. They both look/are awkward in the field, although they each make most of the plays. Teams have not run on Wallner and third base coaches are well aware of his arm even if his release is a tad slow. I'll double down - Why don't people believe in Wallner and Julien?
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Seattle has a strong core of Castillo, Gilbert, Kirby, Miller, and Woo with a few veterans on contracts as well as a couple of ready arms (led by Emerson Hancock) in the minors waiting for an opportunity. The Mariners need bats. It would take quite a haul to pry away Gilbert, Kirby, or Miller. Miami faced a similar predicament last winter when the Lopez-Arraez trade was discussed and then completed. It is possible.
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I wonder about that too. I'm not sure what younger pitcher the Twins would offer as a first piece. Hard to know what Preller thinks. Heck, I have no idea what Falvey thinks for that matter.
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This is my thinking too - Lewis over Wallner all day. Yet, pitching is always the name of the game and I'm real tempted by Logan Gilbert and perhaps Royce Lewis is the fair price. Nah, we better keep Royce because we hope he becomes a star. See if Seattle would have other interests from the Twins roster (Wallner + Polanco?). I do think San Diego will trade for fair offers. I just don't know what that looks like.
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What about Larnach and either Sands or Winder for Hader?
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These two are worth a phone call. The main issue is that the Cardinals are only really interested in pitching and preferably pitchers with a number of years of control. Do they see Varland, Festa, or SWR as a fair return? I might agree with trading two of those pitchers for one of the St. Louis outfielders but have no idea what their GM wants in return.
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Neither do I understand how SWR is viewed. He seems to have a great personality, I guess. Still we traded Berrios for him and Martin, so who knows what San Diego thinks about him or any Twin.
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Kepler has had more than a few rough patches. I just don't see any team giving up someone worthwhile for Max. Despite all frustrations for Kepler's game, he is still a very good outfielder and base runner who can also cause damage with his bat. If Kepler had enough value to another team he would have been traded. Finally, I had commented a number of times in the past that Kepler had seemed unhappy and even morose as he moved through the year. This is certainly unquantifiable. Yet, we have seen more emotion and smiles from Max since the All Star break than in the last couple of years. I guess he needs some love or a reason to focus? I don't think Kepler is going away, so you will need to learn to love him.
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