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Falvey's Drafting & Development Results
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Whomever drafted them/signed them gets the credit. Falvey didn't exactly fare well when it came to developing the previous regime's prospects. -
Coulombe is getting it done. It's nice to see him doing so well out of the gate this year.
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Falvey's Drafting & Development Results
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It's hard to quantify how good players will be in the future. What we do have is 8 years of what has actually happened. I don't think it makes a lot of sense to try and predict the future at this point. If people are supporting Falvey, it really should be about installing the system and analytics. He also had a couple great trades that landed us Joe Ryan and Jake Odorizzi or getting out from under the Josh Donaldson deal while getting Urshela and Sanchez in return. Lets take a look at Bill Smith and Terry Ryan 8 years after their first season as GM (and first season back for T.R.). Bill Smith 2008-2011 drafts/signings Pos SP RP Draft Value Total Percent 2015 6.7 2.8 0 9.5 28.1 34% Crippled with just 4 drafts, Smith is responsible for a huge part of the core of the team into the 2020s. Brian Dozier, Eddie Rosario, Miguel Sano, Aaron Hicks, Kyle Gibson contributed here with negative 2.5 WAR in contributions by Max Kepler, Oswaldo Arcia, Kennys Vargas, Danny Santana with Jorge Polanco being neutral. Terry Ryan 2012-2016 drafts/signings Pos SP RP Draft Value Total Percent 2021 8.6 2.3 3.2 14.1 28.8 49% Like Bill Smith, Terry Ryan gets a bit hamstrung by the fact he only had 5 years of drafting/signing to get his results. I used 2021 because the SSSS of 2020 is totally unfair to project to a full season. Terry Ryan's guys were Byron Buxton, Mitch Garver, Luis Arraez, Ben Rortvedt, Nick Gordon, Alex Kirilloff, Jose Berrios, Taylor Rogers, Caleb Thielbar, Tyler Duffey, and Cody Stashak. Only Travis Blankenhorn created a tiny drag on results with -0.1 WAR. Should have been 2019 for Ryan? Whatever. I worked enough on this, LOL. -
Falvey's Drafting & Development Results
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Where's the WAR listed here? I see "WINS" which is the team's record. The TaP = Traded for player before the player made it to MLB? 2019 shows 0.0% for the Twins on TaP, but what about Trevor May? I'm just looking things over to better understand the data set. -
The Minnesota Twins Have a New Top 100 Prospect
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Some people don't seem to understand that drafting and development is pretty important. Cleveland's draft/development pipeline produced 7.6 WAR last year. The Twins? 3.5 WAR despite Minnesota typically hanging on tooth and nail to their guys until they hit free agency. -
I'm honestly not concerned about Amick. To me, there's no reason to get bent out of shape with prospects who are well down the list or really far away. More concerning to me is what's going on with our upper level prospects. If players are performing well, they'll generally push into our top 10 list, and those are usually the guys I expect to potentially be big contributors.
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Be careful what you wish for with owners
bean5302 commented on William Malone's blog entry in William Malone IV blogs about Twins
Name a better free agent on the market on March 21st. Canning and Holmes were signed in December, and as you point out, Holmes was a reliever, not a starter. Canning has a career 4.60 ERA and 5.2 fWAR with a season best 1.8 fWAR. Last year he pitched to a 5.19 ERA in 171.2 innings producing a miserable 0.2 fWAR. Gibson has a career 4.57 ERA and 21.4 fWAR with a season best 3.1 fWAR and was elected to an All Star game. Last year, Gibson pitched to a 4.24 ERA in 169.2 innings where he generated 8x the value of Canning. Gibson has qualified for championship trophies for the last 5 seasons in a row. That's besides the point, which is Gibson wasn't signed to replace Burnes. Again, Morton and Sugano were brought in to replace Burnes. Not Gibson. There are plenty of reasons you could rag on Orioles ownership. Payroll and Kyle Gibson signed as a solid back end rotation member in an emergency when Grayson Rodriguez was going to be unable to start the season in the rotation are not two of them. -
That's a false representation of outcomes. Gallo was not unlucky and Arraez was not lucky. Both Gallo and Arraez typically produced similarly to their expected metrics. There are relatively unique players who deviate from expected results, but they're pretty few and far between. It would be better if people would stop trying to confidently explain things they don't understand.
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This $8MM = 1.0 WAR thinking is far to narrow minded because it does not reflect the market. First, teams do not try to buy 1.0 WAR at $8MM, but with injuries and poor performance, that's where big free agency contracts wind up. Second, teams do not spend linear money for WAR. The more WAR a player produces, the bigger premium a team will pay. Example, Nicky Lopez got MLB minimum despite being a consistent 1.0 WAR player. Third, the average cost of 1 WAR in MLB is about $2.5MM, not $8.0MM because most players are pre-arb, arb and they do not make top free agent money. It's easy to find a 0.5 or 1.0 WAR player in the minors. Fourth, WAR is not a counting stat. It can and does often go backwards. For starting position players, you need 2.5+ WAR to be truly earning your spot, over that, and you're helping a team to the playoffs. Anything north of 2.0 WAR is good enough. Anything under that, and you're dragging on the team. For a relief pitcher, anything over 0.5 WAR is gravy. Now, onto how these players are producing. Bader = $6.25MM + $1.5MM buyout. Bader is looking like an absolute steal, especially with his hot streak lately. He was literally elite on 5/7. Exactly elite. His wRC+ was 1337 that day. That said, his xwOBA is dramatically lower at .315 (league average), and Bader's career xwOBA and wOBA line up pretty well. In the bigger picture, was he worth it so far? Yes. The Twins need, need, need a CF to back up Buxton and Bader was cheap and he can play defense. He's been healthy so far, but the real question is whether or not he'll be healthy when Buxton inevitably goes to the IL? That's really why Bader is here. France = $1.0MM. France has produced 0.1 WAR. It's not like $1.0MM is breaking the bank so it's fine, but in terms of does he help the team win ball games, the answer is no, not really. That said, France's xwOBA is All Star caliber at .370 thanks to a lot of barrels where the baseball hasn't been wearing glasses so it lands directly into gloves. The nitty gritty is Miranda defecated in the bed this year and the Twins don't have a lot in the way of 1B depth so France just holding his own at the plate has been helpful. Worth it. Coulombe is stranding 100% of his base runners and he hasn't allowed a home run... yet. SSSS at 16.0 innings, but it's gotten him 0.8 WAR so far. Certainly looks like a great signing, but a single game could reverse him to negative WAR. With Kody Funderburk the only lefty remaining in the depth charts, yeah. We needed Coulombe bad.
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The Minnesota Twins Have a New Top 100 Prospect
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Tender/tight upper back. Sounds minor. -
Week in Review: Rallying Back to Relevance
bean5302 replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Yep. Can't be reaching for that hammy like that. He's not ready, and everybody knows Royce will push through pain. Should be optioned back to AAA and give him at least a week off or suffer another 2 month loss after yet another major lower body injury causing more cascading issues. I can't think of a player handled more poorly by an organization.- 30 replies
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I'd still like to see 200 PA for McCusker before calling him up. He was not great last year in AAA, and getting a good sample size is important. McCusker is still making adjustments and progressing in St. Paul right now. I'd like him to be as good as he reasonably can be before the Twins call him up. The plate production for the Twins has been pretty miserable this year so I get the desire to see a huge bat in the lineup, but McCusker is going to be .150/.200/.350 with a 5% BB and 50% K rate at MLB if he's not ready.
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Part 1: [Gleeman] Rocco Baldelli was talking about the importance of giving players days off to avoid wearing down. Then he turned to Justin Morneau in the back of the room and asked: "You ever play all 162?" "I played 163." Amazing flex. (Morneau played 163 in 2008 and was runner-up for MVP.) Part 2: There was basically no news on Miranda until he showed up in the Saints lineup on 5/9. He's 0-6 with a BB and 2 Ks right now.
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.245/.321/.395 OPS .716 wRC+ 105 is really good for a guy with no defensive or base running value? He's sitting at 0.1 WAR, on pace for 0.3 WAR in a full season as a starter. Larnach's xwOBA is a little higher than his actual, but that's been the case every single year of his career so his productivity as a league average bat is right on point. Last year was the only year he's earned a starting roster spot. There isn't a ton different in his plate discipline, but a couple things are really sticking out. First, Larnach is struggling against fastballs which is shocking to see. Second, Larnach is hitting changeups, which is equally shocking. It's a 180* flip from his traditional results. He's also been trading fly balls for grounders. I'm not sure if this is a new approach, but it won't work if the tradeoff is hitting grounders off changeups than fly balls off fastballs.
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Be careful what you wish for with owners
bean5302 commented on William Malone's blog entry in William Malone IV blogs about Twins
The Orioles are at $165MM of payroll, up from $109MM last year, and up from $69MM the year before. They offered Burnes more money than Arizona, but Burnes wanted to play close to his home in Scottsdale. They tried to replace Corbin Burnes with Morton and Sugano. Sorry your guys are hurt. If the Twins lost Lopez to another team last year and watched Ryan and Ober go down with injuries, I'm pretty sure they'd be struggling this year. -
Falvey's Drafting & Development Results
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I don't think it's fair to look only at drafting/int'l signings and development. I seem to recall 50% of a team's WAR should come from drafted/developed players under team control for sustainability. Of course, that means a guy like Buxton doesn't count even though he was home grown since he long passed the initial team control period. That said, trades and free agent signings are usually a big portion of mid-market team successes and the Twins have landed some significant contracts in that realm under Falvey. I do think it's fair to look at Falvey's front office and evaluate them based on facts and actual production rather than hopes and dreams. In this case, I'm just touching on the draft/development (probably most important IMHO) piece of a front office's job. Hopes and dreams and projections don't count. Royce Lewis absolutely has the talent to win an MVP and put up an 8 WAR season at shortstop; however, his unending injury history along with poor coaching and management have certainly damaged his production. Ceilings don't matter to me because, in professional sports you either win or lose. -
Falvey's Drafting & Development Results
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Endless excuses and no data. Sounds about right. Resources? Try the very highest payroll in the AL Central over Falvey's time here. -
Falvey's Drafting & Development Results
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Draft and development. No mulligans, no buts. Every team has their version of Joe Ryan they've watched grow. Either at the plate or on the mound. Cleveland 2024 Pos SP RP Draft Tot Percent 8.2 4.7 2.9 15.8 35.5 45% The Tampa Bay Rays are a truly... "unique" franchise. Virtually nobody on their roster was drafted/developed by them. There were only 2 bit players on their roster they drafted and developed themselves last year. Taylor Walls (SS) -0.2 WAR, drafted 2017, and Mason Montgomery (RP) 0.3 WAR, drafted 2021. The strategy used by Tampa is to draft tons of pitchers, develop them, get them to the big show and trade them for tons of prospects. Then fill out the roster holes with cheap, short term veterans. From a market efficiency standpoint, it's worked pretty well for the team; however, this model sucks as it's not expandable to other teams due to there being a finite supply of each component used to build the Rays' roster. I absolutely give credit to Falvey for implementing new technology and a greatly expanded analytics system. The actual results from his efforts, though are not as good as Bill Smith or Terry Ryan (development wise). -
Matthews max velocity back up to 97.8mph yesterday. I'm glad to see it. I don't think it's any coincidence the velo returned, and so did a performance we've come to expect for Matthews. Makes me think this new found velocity might mean his stamina will need close monitoring as the season progresses. Nice to see Emma delivering with some power. It's a good sign. I dropped him all the way down to #8 on my prospects list a couple weeks ago as he hadn't hit a single homer in his first 100 PA in AAA. If Rodriguez can deliver as a power threat, it'll offset the likelihood he struggles as much as Julien. I think maybe 1 more status quo start, and it'll be time to replace Raya with one of our AA starters. Anybody else concerned about Jarret Worff's usage? He's already got 19.2 innings this year as a reliever, on pace for well over 80 innings this year. Lots of 2-3 inning relief appearances followed by 3-4 days rest. Glad to see his doing so well, but it seems like an abnormal usage.
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Matthews' velo has been down a bit recently where he's been scuffling a lot. I'd imagine it's a few things at play. Trying to ensure he doesn't develop fatigue and wanting other pitchers to get some opportunities are probably top of the list. Matthews pitched 134.2 innings last year. 97.0 innings in MiLB (22.2 A+, 55.1 AA, 19.0 AAA) +37.2 innings in MLB 134.2 innings total.
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Raya only had 1 game last year in AAA and he had control problems in AA. He's never been a dominant strikeout guy, and the way the Twins have handled him with the ultimate kid-gloves, it's tough to evaluate his results as a starter. I think Raya should probably transition to the bullpen at this point. Morris K% in AA last year? 25.2%. Raya? 24.8%. Raya ranked 40th among 101 pitchers with 50+ innings in AA in K percentage. Pretty middle of the road. People can talk about his age, I suppose, but he's now burning options in his 6th year in the organization, Raya is well beyond the development time for the typical upper end high school starter.
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Mauer's a pretty unique example. Home town kid, first overall pick, first ballot HoF career with a brand new stadium hitting just as he was going to become a free agent. Even took a bit of a home town discount as I think the league estimates were more like $200MM+ for Mauer. The Red Sox were still willing to trade and take the entirety of Mauer's contract even after 2011. The contract is honestly from a different era of the game already as it's been 16 years now. The Twins tried to trade Buxton, they just didn't find any takers, and while his contract was lengthy, it was only $15MM/yr. There have been quite a few contracts similar to Buxton's before guys even start their MLB careers to immediately after their first season or two. Since that's happening, we haven't really seen what happens as those first contracts often buying out a couple years of free agency wind down. Will the teams try to keep their players or will they all sign with the Dodgers?
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No, he's not. At least not historically. I've done the analysis of where guys like Lopez, Ryan and Ober historically rank in terms of ERA, FIP, xFIP. Stretch the starting pitching innings down to 70-90 to get your 150 starter sample. Over the course of full seasons, Lopez, Ryan and Ober typically fall into that 60-100 range. They're not #1's. Lopez has been back end #2-ish. Joe Ryan continues to evolve his repertoire and he's gotten truly excellent results in the first half. He's never had a good 2nd half in his career, and he's never qualified for a championship trophy (literally only missing it by 0.1 innings in 2023). Ryan's best season ever was 2024 where he pitched only 135 innings and ranked 55th in ERA for 156 starters with 70+ innings. 3 WAR doesn't get a top 30 pitchers in baseball title.
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