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    The Pohlads Set Derek Falvey Up To Fail

    Derek Falvey has taken a lot of flak from the Twins' fan base over the past two years, as the on-field product has declined. Plainly, though, he was dealt a lousy hand by ownership, which culminated in him leaving the organization.

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    There is still much we don’t know about the specific events that led to the Twins and Derek Falvey parting ways. One thing we do know, though, is that Falvey was set up to fail in three key ways. That makes it easy to see why he wanted out, and perhaps why he chose not to let another losing season be hung around his neck as he seeks his next, greener pasture.

    The Correa Signing
    The first way in which ownership misled Falvey was Joe Pohlad’s green-lighting of Carlos Correa’s second signing. To be clear, the approval itself was sound, and theoretically, it was a great move. A good owner, when sensing that his team’s window of contention is wide-open and that the team is one big splash away from having a chance at a deep playoff run, should approve signing a superstar.

    After the signing, The Athletic’s Dan Hayes reported the following:

    “While he didn’t mention a specific number, Pohlad didn’t hesitate to suggest the Twins could increase payroll significantly if everything was properly aligned ... Would something like $180-200 million be out of the question?

    “I think that there are a number of factors that you need to consider,” Pohlad said. “Where your team is, where your division is, where your business is at. And I don’t think something like that is ever out of the question. I really don’t.”

    Fast-forward eight months, and you know the rest. A good owner should not approve a signing like the Correa if he knows it will reduce the ability to add supplemental pieces, or worse, to slash payroll by nearly 20% the following season—then again, and again for good measure.

    One might choose to be charitable, and argue that perhaps Pohlad didn’t know that the family would be “losing” significant money. That's a watery defense, though. An owner's imprimatur on a signing should signal a commitment to the spending required to justify it, which means either knowing for sure that it won't limit the team, or being willing to stretch and accept the pain when it comes. Either way, allowing Falvey to take on a $200-million contract and then slashing payroll eliminated Falvey’s ability to sign quality depth pieces that would insulate the team against injuries, player regression, or the failure of prospects to develop into quality regulars. In short, the Pohlads forced Falvey to immediately thread a needle if he wanted to succeed.

    Ownership Communication and Decision-Making
    The second way the Pohlads made Falvey’s job harder is through their public-facing ineptitude. Whether it was Joe’s ill-advised “rightsizing the payroll” comment immediately following the first playoff success in 20 years, or his comments following the 2025 trade deadline firesale, ownership hung the front office out to dry.

    “I’m confident because we have got all the right pieces, and we have the resources we’re ready to invest when needed," he said in July. "The goal is not to compete. The goal is to win a World Series.

    That’s just so out of touch with the reality of the situation, and unfortunately for Falvey, it makes it appear as if he’s the one choosing not to improve the team.

    One can also point to the travails of watching Twins games on TV as the RSN model died its slow and ugly death, and the public promise they allowed Cory Provus to give (on the record) that there would be no more blackouts—after which they chose to re-up with the same bankrupt organization that was preventing fans from watching. That created a feedback loop of frustration among fans that led many to tune out. Of course, with his promotion, Falvey had to try to figure out how to pick up the pieces. This is just one example of ownership hurting their own earning power, which led to the reductions in payroll.

    Then, of course, there was the sale that wasn’t, leading to Falvey stating as late as December's Winter Meetings that he still wasn’t sure what he would be allowed to do this offseason, at a time when other teams were deep in their planning processes—and, indeed, executing those plans.

    Unrealistic, And Constantly Changing Expectations
    The final, perhaps irreconcilable way that the Pohlads made Falvey’s job impossible was to issue mutually exclusive, diametrically opposed dictates. The first: to win, despite needing four good bullpen arms, a backup catcher, and at least two above-average hitters. The second: do this for, say, $20 million in offseason spending, leaving the team with one of baseball's smallest payrolls. They issued this unfunded mandate, by the way, after Falvey had already made the sensible choice to rebuild at the deadline last season, based on the financial constraints placed on him and the underperformance of the core.

    That came after the whiplash Falvey had received from ownership pivots over the prior two years. It has looked something like this:

    • 2023: Go all in! Sign Correa! Break the curse! There’s more money where this came from!
    • 2024: So close…but you gotta cut payroll. By a lot. Hopefully it’ll be fine. You'll figure it out. Also, why are fans mad?
    • 2025: Keep cutting. It’s a good core, we can still do this. Actually, the team isn’t quite performing… You know what? Maybe let’s actually burn it down. Seriously, why are fans mad? It’s a nice ballpark.
    • 2026: Oh, fans are mad because they want to win. Ok. We aren’t rebuilding. You better win. Also, there’s no money. Trust me, payroll doesn’t matter. Vibes matter.

    Falvey acted the politician throughout his Twins tenure, to the point that he consistently took heat for decisions that weren’t, strictly speaking, his. I’m sure signing Ty France to play first base in 2025 was not his first, or even second, choice. I’m sure he would have preferred not to eliminate the 2025 bullpen at the deadline. This is, after all, the guy who was in tears following the 2024 season because of how upset he was that the team failed down the stretch. There was never an indication that he didn’t want to field a great team, but he was handcuffed at every point since the 2023 playoffs ended.

    However, the fact that he consistently chose to carry water reflected an accurate understanding of the reality he was living. Ownership found themselves in significant debt, however it was accrued; he had a good relationship with his bosses; and he liked the role he was in. So, he dealt with it and made the best of it.

    When the boss with whom he'd had a good relationship was replaced by an intransigent dilettante, he realized that he no longer liked the role as much as he once had. The debt is being reduced or eliminated, but Falvey realized that wouldn't matter if he was to be overseen by a similarly miserly but less engaged and less flexible Pohlad sibling.

    I can’t say I blame him.

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    13 hours ago, rv78 said:

    And yet the Twins have gotten worse. Your rose colored glasses have some manure on them.

    I merely was showing the facts.   There can always be valid arguments 1 ways or another.   1 of them should not be the trades that Falvey did.  Now part of that is because he generally until this past deadline,  had very high expectations for trades,  effectively he wanted to win each trade.  

    If you disagree or forgot that Falvey traded for Lopez, Ryan, Duran, Gabriel Gonzalez and Sonny Gray I guess thats one thing.  Say what you will, He needed Lewis to become an all-star or a star, he took a big swing on him and so far has missed.  His 22-25 drafts look extremely strong.  They have gotten effectively zero from the international market for several years.  

    For me there are 2 issues,  1 is international drafts.  2 is needed a bit more from the drafts 2017-2019, Some of the issue is we continued to supplement the teams early on through trades from a relatively week minor league system.  Overall though most of those trades have worked out. 

    I still think we should have continued the rebuild,  sold of Ryan.  See if Lopez can show health and #1 pitcher form this spring,  then trade him as well.  I am fine holding onto Jeffers to manage the bullpen.    

    22 hours ago, rv78 said:

    Sorry, I don't feel sorry for Falvey. He made a multitude of moves to numerous to mention that he had complete control over that he just completely whiffed on. Even his last 2 significant moves in spending $7M each on Josh Bell and Victor Caratini show his inept way of spending the available payroll he has at his disposal. Neither Bell or Caratini move the needle to a higher level. They only solidify a floor that maintains the status quo of mediocrity. Had the total of their 2 salaries, $14M, been given to just one, much better player, who was capable of significant improvement at even just 1 position it makes the team BETTER. The only problem of going with that avenue of spending is that Falvey has also shown with Correa and Gallo that he wasn't capable of spending bigger dollars wisely either. Blame the Pohlads if you wish, but Falvey failed in a lot of ways that weren't the Pohlads fault.

    Very well said. they gave up a pretty good AAA guy for a catcher. Jackson who I understand doesn't hit very well and now they don't even need him.

    20 hours ago, bunsen82 said:

    1. Sonny Gray 8 WAR and Debarge   -   Traded away Petty

    2. Lopez 8.1 WAR  -   Traded Arraez  6.8 WAR  -  Lopez is a much more valuable asset currently

    3. Joe Ryan 8.3 War -   Traded Cruz  .4 WAR

    4. Duran  7.4 WAR,  Tait and Abel  -  Escobar  (Enough said)  

    5.  Topa and Gonzalez   for Polanco 1.3 WAR .   (This trade is definitely trending towards the twins)

    The only real negative trade I can think of is the Pressly trade.  But most of that value came in additional signed contracts.   The other 2 would be Cano for Lopez,  and then Mahle for Steer and CES.   

    I honestly think of all the things Falvey did,  trading was by far his strong suit.  

    2017: nothing of serious note

    2018: Duran and Odo were good trades. Jake Cave for Luis Gil, the Pressly swap, and letting Dozier die on the vine were the opposite.

    2019: nothing of serious note

    2020: Normally I'd take impact > duration but I think the Maeda trade is a push. That COVID season was 60 games, I mean Martin Perez would've been a CYA candidate at one point if we only looked at his best two months with the Twins. Outside of that 11 game stretch Kenta was injured or just not that good. 

    2021: Ryan is the feather in Falvey's cap; hands down the best trade he made. The Berrios swap? Eh... 

    2022: Gray is a W barring a Petty bounce back. Lopez imploded. Mahle was a disaster. Pagan and Paddack were bad.

    2023: Lopez for Arraez worked out better for the Twins, at least to date. 

    2024: You need to include DeSclafani in that swap. A cash strapped team burning $4M or $5M on a SP hurts. In general, Topa + an unusable SP for Polanco isn't a W. You can love Gonzalez all you want, but he hasn't done a single thing at the MLB level yet. Falvey traded for Margot that same offseason as well. 

    2025: TBD

    3 hours ago, bunsen82 said:

    I merely was showing the facts.   There can always be valid arguments 1 ways or another.   1 of them should not be the trades that Falvey did.  Now part of that is because he generally until this past deadline,  had very high expectations for trades,  effectively he wanted to win each trade.  

    If you disagree or forgot that Falvey traded for Lopez, Ryan, Duran, Gabriel Gonzalez and Sonny Gray I guess thats one thing.  Say what you will, He needed Lewis to become an all-star or a star, he took a big swing on him and so far has missed.  His 22-25 drafts look extremely strong.  They have gotten effectively zero from the international market for several years.  

    For me there are 2 issues,  1 is international drafts.  2 is needed a bit more from the drafts 2017-2019, Some of the issue is we continued to supplement the teams early on through trades from a relatively week minor league system.  Overall though most of those trades have worked out. 

    I still think we should have continued the rebuild,  sold of Ryan.  See if Lopez can show health and #1 pitcher form this spring,  then trade him as well.  I am fine holding onto Jeffers to manage the bullpen.    

    I'd say survival bias and the fact that Ryan and Lopez are amongst the only above average players left on this team are coloring our view of the past. 

    Both ownership and Falvey are to blame for the current  blight of the Twins.  My question or concern is that now that we have zoll budgeting payroll, is ownership going to cut payroll more?  With a scaled back budget i wouldn't be surprised if some or all of Lopez, Ryan, Jeffers, and Buxton are traded.

    4 hours ago, Whitey333 said:

    Both ownership and Falvey are to blame for the current  blight of the Twins.  My question or concern is that now that we have zoll budgeting payroll, is ownership going to cut payroll more?  With a scaled back budget i wouldn't be surprised if some or all of Lopez, Ryan, Jeffers, and Buxton are traded.

    Ownership has indicated there is still more room in the budget to add and Zoll is looking to do so.

    This article was from Monday, after Falvey’s departure:

    https://www.mlb.com/twins/news/jeremy-zoll-still-looking-to-improve-twins-roster

    On 2/4/2026 at 7:57 PM, rv78 said:

    And yet the Twins have gotten worse. Your rose colored glasses have some manure on them.

    Are you really suggesting the Twins got worse as a result of the trades @bunsen82listed or were there other reasons they didn't get better.  If we apply just a little bit of objectivity, I think you could say Falvey did pretty well in trades overall, but those trades were not enough to cover for the lack of success in drafting and developing.  His FA signings were also a mixed bag and a team with a modest budget needs to get exceptional production out of their FA signings.

    18 hours ago, KirbyDome89 said:

    2017: nothing of serious note

    2018: Duran and Odo were good trades. Jake Cave for Luis Gil, the Pressly swap, and letting Dozier die on the vine were the opposite.

    2019: nothing of serious note

    2020: Normally I'd take impact > duration but I think the Maeda trade is a push. That COVID season was 60 games, I mean Martin Perez would've been a CYA candidate at one point if we only looked at his best two months with the Twins. Outside of that 11 game stretch Kenta was injured or just not that good. 

    2021: Ryan is the feather in Falvey's cap; hands down the best trade he made. The Berrios swap? Eh... 

    2022: Gray is a W barring a Petty bounce back. Lopez imploded. Mahle was a disaster. Pagan and Paddack were bad.

    2023: Lopez for Arraez worked out better for the Twins, at least to date. 

    2024: You need to include DeSclafani in that swap. A cash strapped team burning $4M or $5M on a SP hurts. In general, Topa + an unusable SP for Polanco isn't a W. You can love Gonzalez all you want, but he hasn't done a single thing at the MLB level yet. Falvey traded for Margot that same offseason as well. 

    2025: TBD

    I'd say survival bias and the fact that Ryan and Lopez are amongst the only above average players left on this team are coloring our view of the past. 

    Odorizzi   5.1 WAR

    Duran  7.4 WAR  (traded with 2.4 yrs of control)  

    Ryan 8.3 WAR (2 yrs of control)  

    Lopez  6 WAR (extension was for 25-27)

    Gray  8 WAR

    Topa .6 

    Pagan 1 WAR 

    Maeda 3.1

    SWR 4  (4 years remaining)   

    Jorge Lopez -.1

    Prospects -  Gonzalez, Bowen, Debarge, Tait, Abel,  Martin (not really prospect but remaining years)

    Total - 43.6  WAR

     

    Gil 5.1 WAR 

    Berrios  1.5  (signed extension for future years)

    Rogers -.6

    Arraez 6.8

    Steer  5.1   

    Graterol 3.5

    Polanco   1.3  (1 year)

    Cruz .4  

    Pressley 3.0 (signed extension)  

    Ynoa 1.1

    Cano  2.5 WAR (remaining years)

     

    Total -  29.7 WAR   

    Traded prospects - Miller (could have been picked up rule 5), Petty, Povich 

     

    In summary the Twins are plus 13.9 surplus value  on the trades that have been completed.   The tree that continues is 2 yrs of Ryan remaining and 4 years of SWR and Martin  and then the prospects of Gonzalez, Bowen, Debarge, Tait and Abel.  There is 4 high upside prospects.   Petty and Povich and  remaining years on Steer and CES are really the only players of note remaining in other systems.    Nothing is coloring my bias,  trades were a significant boon for the Twins from the Falvey era and will continue to be an asset moving forward.  

    3 hours ago, bunsen82 said:

    Odorizzi   5.1 WAR

    Duran  7.4 WAR  (traded with 2.4 yrs of control)  

    Ryan 8.3 WAR (2 yrs of control)  

    Lopez  6 WAR (extension was for 25-27)

    Gray  8 WAR

    Topa .6 

    Pagan 1 WAR 

    Maeda 3.1

    SWR 4  (4 years remaining)   

    Jorge Lopez -.1

    Prospects -  Gonzalez, Bowen, Debarge, Tait, Abel,  Martin (not really prospect but remaining years)

    Total - 43.6  WAR

     

    Gil 5.1 WAR 

    Berrios  1.5  (signed extension for future years)

    Rogers -.6

    Arraez 6.8

    Steer  5.1   

    Graterol 3.5

    Polanco   1.3  (1 year)

    Cruz .4  

    Pressley 3.0 (signed extension)  

    Ynoa 1.1

    Cano  2.5 WAR (remaining years)

     

    Total -  29.7 WAR   

    Traded prospects - Miller (could have been picked up rule 5), Petty, Povich 

     

    In summary the Twins are plus 13.9 surplus value  on the trades that have been completed.   The tree that continues is 2 yrs of Ryan remaining and 4 years of SWR and Martin  and then the prospects of Gonzalez, Bowen, Debarge, Tait and Abel.  There is 4 high upside prospects.   Petty and Povich and  remaining years on Steer and CES are really the only players of note remaining in other systems.    Nothing is coloring my bias,  trades were a significant boon for the Twins from the Falvey era and will continue to be an asset moving forward.  

    Counting only WAR loses the plot when you're moving guys with limited control or swapping established players for prospects and vice versa. Did you get the better players and is the return moving the needle? 

    The Mahle swap wasn't a disaster because Spencer Steer produced more WAR while being an overall meh 1B. It hurt because the Twins desperately needed a SP and Mahle immediately fell apart. Spencer Steer can rack up all the WAR he wants over whatever amount of time before FA, it doesn't matter. Ditto for the Berrios swap. SWR spent time in AAA last year, and Austin Martin is a fringe bench guy at best. Berrios has clearly been the best player in that swap. Maybe Martin gets enough playing time and SWR holds onto a rotation spot long enough to beat Berrios' WAR this season, it doesn't matter, the rotation took a hit and you've spent at least one, if not two, roster spots to downgrade. Idc about "losing," Brent Rooker or Noah MIller, but I do care about Pagan blowing games while the 2022 season tanked, and Margot being atrocious but still getting 400 PAs while 2024 season tanked. 

     

    58 minutes ago, KirbyDome89 said:

    Counting only WAR loses the plot when you're moving guys with limited control or swapping established players for prospects and vice versa. Did you get the better players and is the return moving the needle? 

    The Mahle swap wasn't a disaster because Spencer Steer produced more WAR while being an overall meh 1B. It hurt because the Twins desperately needed a SP and Mahle immediately fell apart. Spencer Steer can rack up all the WAR he wants over whatever amount of time before FA, it doesn't matter. Ditto for the Berrios swap. SWR spent time in AAA last year, and Austin Martin is a fringe bench guy at best. Berrios has clearly been the best player in that swap. Maybe Martin gets enough playing time and SWR holds onto a rotation spot long enough to beat Berrios' WAR this season, it doesn't matter, the rotation took a hit and you've spent at least one, if not two, roster spots to downgrade. Idc about "losing," Brent Rooker or Noah MIller, but I do care about Pagan blowing games while the 2022 season tanked, and Margot being atrocious but still getting 400 PAs while 2024 season tanked. 

     

    ?????? 

    I really don't understand your point at all.  How else do you measure than effectively WAR.  As to the Berrios trade,  he has been solid,  but I think dollar to donuts for the contract being paid 27 out of 30 GM's take SWR over Berrios straight up.  Martin - may have the same value as a Castro did for us,  and maybe he finds a new level - effectively what he was expected to do.  1-2 WAR from Martin a Year and 2+ War from SWR each year is a significant trade win for the Twins.  

    If you are basing this on a handful of losses by Pagan and an extra roster spot currently,  for 2 pretty effective MLB players in SWR and Martin -  this really isn't a viable argument anymore.   We have found the best player in multiple trades that have moved the needle in (Ryan, Lopez, Odorizzi, Gray)  (We have some significant prospects that will be effecting the roster as well). 

    As I stated initially - there are many things that one can dislike how Falvey ran a team - some were of his own doing, some were by restrictions by owners.  Trading by any metric was not 1 area that I think you can really critique him on.  We still haven't seen a significant addition to the bullpen  for no half measures Tom.   If he wants to win you have to invest.   

    20 minutes ago, bunsen82 said:

    ?????? 

    I really don't understand your point at all.  How else do you measure than effectively WAR.  As to the Berrios trade,  he has been solid,  but I think dollar to donuts for the contract being paid 27 out of 30 GM's take SWR over Berrios straight up.  Martin - may have the same value as a Castro did for us,  and maybe he finds a new level - effectively what he was expected to do.  1-2 WAR from Martin a Year and 2+ War from SWR each year is a significant trade win for the Twins.  

    If you are basing this on a handful of losses by Pagan and an extra roster spot currently,  for 2 pretty effective MLB players in SWR and Martin -  this really isn't a viable argument anymore.   We have found the best player in multiple trades that have moved the needle in (Ryan, Lopez, Odorizzi, Gray)  (We have some significant prospects that will be effecting the roster as well). 

    As I stated initially - there are many things that one can dislike how Falvey ran a team - some were of his own doing, some were by restrictions by owners.  We still haven't seen a significant addition to the bullpen  for no half measures Tom.   If he wants to win you have to invest.   

    Would you trade me a 6 WAR player for a group of players worth 2,2,2, and 1 WAR? You're getting the better deal by WAR right? The counting game ignores roster implications and the impact of the players involved. One season of MVP caliber performance is worth more than 5 seasons of 1.5 WAR even if the latter wins the battle in terms of WAR. A (at worst) solid, middle rotation SP is worth more than a fringe back end guy and a replacement level bench player. 

    SWR might not last the year in the Twins rotation. I very much doubt that nearly every GM in the league, especially those who are actually trying to win games, would take him over Berrios. The AAV is irrelevant. The Twins refusing to pay Berrios doesn't provide them with a handicap. 

    By your own system, the Lopez/Arraez trade was a net loss for the Twins. I disagree, but Idk why you're using Pablo as an example of finding the best player. 

    18 hours ago, KirbyDome89 said:

    Would you trade me a 6 WAR player for a group of players worth 2,2,2, and 1 WAR? You're getting the better deal by WAR right? The counting game ignores roster implications and the impact of the players involved. One season of MVP caliber performance is worth more than 5 seasons of 1.5 WAR even if the latter wins the battle in terms of WAR. A (at worst) solid, middle rotation SP is worth more than a fringe back end guy and a replacement level bench player. 

    SWR might not last the year in the Twins rotation. I very much doubt that nearly every GM in the league, especially those who are actually trying to win games, would take him over Berrios. The AAV is irrelevant. The Twins refusing to pay Berrios doesn't provide them with a handicap. 

    By your own system, the Lopez/Arraez trade was a net loss for the Twins. I disagree, but Idk why you're using Pablo as an example of finding the best player. 

    Other than Arraez  one blow out year with the Marlins the Twins players have had higher WAR players acquired on a yearly basis.   As to the Pablo deal, no its not a net loss,  on a WAR basis maybe, but you signed to an extension, had you not you would have gotten an additional player as a comp pick like we will now.  Arraez netted nothing.   So in my math I utilize WAR - I ignored additional years of control, but then add in prospects traded for or acquired via compensation picks.    You are arguing a losing position.  Just stop.   

    On 2/7/2026 at 9:05 AM, bunsen82 said:

    Other than Arraez  one blow out year with the Marlins the Twins players have had higher WAR players acquired on a yearly basis.   As to the Pablo deal, no its not a net loss,  on a WAR basis maybe, but you signed to an extension, had you not you would have gotten an additional player as a comp pick like we will now.  Arraez netted nothing.   So in my math I utilize WAR - I ignored additional years of control, but then add in prospects traded for or acquired via compensation picks.    You are arguing a losing position.  Just stop.   

    You literally just said WAR is the only effective way to measure these trades, and now you're going outside of it...

    My stance hasn't changed, but you're right, it's a losing position if you insist on moving the goalposts. 

     

    18 hours ago, KirbyDome89 said:

    You literally just said WAR is the only effective way to measure these trades, and now you're going outside of it...

    My stance hasn't changed, but you're right, it's a losing position if you insist on moving the goalposts. 

     

    WAR - and additional players - it doesn't violate my math.   Even so on a WAR basis (as of today) its close to a breakeven.  If this is the hill you are dying on you got problems.  

    On 2/9/2026 at 6:42 AM, bunsen82 said:

    WAR - and additional players - it doesn't violate my math.   Even so on a WAR basis (as of today) its close to a breakeven.  If this is the hill you are dying on you got problems.  

    Well yeah, your math keeps expanding. Now you're assigning major league value to comp picks and using "close enough," to close the WAR gap after I pointed out the inconsistency with Pablo. 

    11 hours ago, KirbyDome89 said:

    Well yeah, your math keeps expanding. Now you're assigning major league value to comp picks and using "close enough," to close the WAR gap after I pointed out the inconsistency with Pablo. 

    You still don't have a cogent argument that he wasn't good at trading players.  I bring WAR into the equation.  You state that doesn't work.  Then you state need to get the best player in the trade.  Thats what the Twins did in the majority of the trades.   Just acknowledge he had some good trades and move on.  On a strictly WAR basis yes the Pablo trade was basically a wash. There is some additional value that may or may not be extracted.  Fair enough?  The Arraez tree has ended.  

    9 hours ago, bunsen82 said:

    You still don't have a cogent argument that he wasn't good at trading players.  I bring WAR into the equation.  You state that doesn't work.  Then you state need to get the best player in the trade.  Thats what the Twins did in the majority of the trades.  Just acknowledge he had some good trades and move on.  On a strictly WAR basis yes the Pablo trade was basically a wash. There is some additional value that may or may not be extracted.  Fair enough?  The Arraez tree has ended.  

    My pushback was directed at YOUR assertion that trading was Falvey's strong suit and the method you used to support that position. I think it's a mixed bag, and I said as much in my initial post (where good trades were acknowledged btw) when I went over what I'd consider difference making acquisitions year by year. Idk how much more cogency you need. 

    I was clear about the issue I see with ignoring context and counting WAR on both sides of the ledger to declare a winner, and like clockwork, you highlighted exactly what I was talking about with the Pablo/Arraez swap. Go look at that list of swaps again, it's at best a push, so no, the Twins weren't getting the better player "in the majority of trades." You've gone from moving the goalposts to straight up fabricating arguments now. 

     




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