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The move that had to be made is made. This is really the only move that could reasonably be accomplished. How much do things improve with this remains to be seen. It would have been nice to be able to fall back on a third option that isn’t Brosmer

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2 hours ago, djvang said:

Very convenient "injury" for Murray.  Face saving move and refusal to admit you bought a lemon.

I could care less if they were honest or cagey about it, it was time to make the switch.

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2 hours ago, TheLeviathan said:

I think that depends on how you feel about Mendoza.  I just think a mid round pick is more valuable than chasing a low upside ceiling.

Cousins is currently the focal point of the whole franchise. The team did the chains bit again and they all seem to legit love the guy. If I'm running a team, a third round pick at the risk of widespread player resentment isn't worth it at all.

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2 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Cousins is currently the focal point of the whole franchise. The team did the chains bit again and they all seem to legit love the guy. If I'm running a team, a third round pick at the risk of widespread player resentment isn't worth it at all.

It really is amazing that the raiders finally have a competitive season and as a result it holds up a possible trade that would benefit the Vikings.

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1 hour ago, Danchat said:

I think it will look more functional, but let's not forget we scored 9 points on Wentz's last start... and he has a high propensity for turning over the ball.

I hope they open up the passing game again, but honestly, that 9 point Chicago game in the rain might have been the only time in the last two years that we could sit back and say, wow, KOC actually out-coached a top tier coach.

I will be curious how this works though, because the two games Wentz, he played like he was running the Murray dink-and-dunk offense. Which sucks. Will they stick with that scheme, or let Wentz chuck it all over the field while we all hold our breath every pass? I hope it's a bit less reckless than most Wentz game plans, but not nearly as conservative as we've see so far all year.

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8 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

It really is amazing that the raiders finally have a competitive season and as a result it holds up a possible trade that would benefit the Vikings.

As a Viking fan, that actually sound par for the course to me. Always wrong place, wrong time.

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37 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I hope they open up the passing game again, but honestly, that 9 point Chicago game in the rain might have been the only time in the last two years that we could sit back and say, wow, KOC actually out-coached a top tier coach.

I will be curious how this works though, because the two games Wentz, he played like he was running the Murray dink-and-dunk offense. Which sucks. Will they stick with that scheme, or let Wentz chuck it all over the field while we all hold our breath every pass? I hope it's a bit less reckless than most Wentz game plans, but not nearly as conservative as we've see so far all year.

They did a lot of short stuff in the Browns and Steelers games last year with Wentz too. We'll see if they continue that or do the old hold the ball for too long waiting for an explosive play downfield. Well, that's been basically every QB under KOC.

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4 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

I generally like Mike Florio, but when he gets on a pet topic, he will not let it go.

His new one, the Vikings should trade for Daniel Jones, is absolutely boiling my blood. Daniel Jones is bad like Kyler Murray, except Jones turns the ball over significantly more. 

And even if he didn't the logic is baffling. The Vikings dumped JJ McCarthy largely because he couldn't throw the ball over the middle of the field. Then they sign Murray on the cheap, who, guess what, ALSO can't throw the ball over the middle of the field. So trade for Daniel Jones, who's maybe best known for NOT being able to throw the ball over the middle of the field?!?!? Sure, might as well give the Colts Justin Jefferson straight up for Jones because he'd still be of no use in this offense.

The earliest I’d be slightly interested in Danny Dimes again is 2028. If he follows the Aaron Rodgers/Kirko recovery path. Both of them tore their Achilles in 2023. Looked awful in 2024, still hobbled in 2025, and now both are back to slinging the ball again in 2026. 

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5 minutes ago, Danchat said:

They did a lot of short stuff in the Browns and Steelers games last year with Wentz too. We'll see if they continue that or do the old hold the ball for too long waiting for an explosive play downfield. Well, that's been basically every QB under KOC.

I wonder if the dink-and-dunk plans in the London games last year were related to the fact that Justin Skule and Walter Rouse and Michael Jurgens were prominently involved.  This game will be a test of that theory as I think the line is overall in a better position now than it was then

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1 hour ago, nicksaviking said:

Cousins is currently the focal point of the whole franchise. The team did the chains bit again and they all seem to legit love the guy. If I'm running a team, a third round pick at the risk of widespread player resentment isn't worth it at all.

I'm actually MORE inclined to move him then.  They need them having that sort of galvanizing spirit around the QB they picked 1st overall.  Cousins being the focal point on a crappy is all the more reason to move him.

This is Joe Ryan or Ryan Jeffers and the Twins stuff here.  The Raiders might Tom Pohlad their way through this opportunity, but they shouldn't.

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