Valdez to Tigers

[SteveLV]

This pretty much torpedoes any chance for the Twins to win the AL Central.  With Skubal and Valdez, Tigers must be heavy favorites.

Anything can happen, but this is a major difference maker.

Simply shocked our boy Tom did not offer this deal!  :)

[bean5302]

42 minutes ago, SteveLV said:

This pretty much torpedoes any chance for the Twins to win the AL Central.  With Skubal and Valdez, Tigers must be heavy favorites.

Anything can happen, but this is a major difference maker.

Simply shocked our boy Tom did not offer this deal!  :)

Probably more "Other Baseball" than Minnesota Twins talk, but if the Twins want a likely front line pitcher still, they can add Zac Gallen for much less. I don't see the payroll jumping to $130MM+ considering the Pohlad's messaging, and based on how Falvey made some questionable decisions with his budget again before being fired, it'd be awfully tough to work a $20MM+ pitcher into the rotation at this point.

I actually tried to fit Gallen into my just recent blueprint, but it was a total house of cards situation.

[Chembry]

5 minutes ago, bean5302 said:

Probably more "Other Baseball" than Minnesota Twins talk, but if the Twins want a likely front line pitcher still, they can add Zac Gallen for much less. I don't see the payroll jumping to $130MM+ considering the Pohlad's messaging, and based on how Falvey made some questionable decisions with his budget again before being fired, it'd be awfully tough to work a $20MM+ pitcher into the rotation at this point.

I actually tried to fit Gallen into my just recent blueprint, but it was a total house of cards situation.

What if the Twins signed Gallen and traded Ryan?  Probably would have to trade Larnach as well...but could be doable.

That way most fans get what they want without a huge drop off in performance, even though Gallen had a down 2025.

[bean5302]

1 hour ago, Chembry said:

What if the Twins signed Gallen and traded Ryan?  Probably would have to trade Larnach as well...but could be doable.

That way most fans get what they want without a huge drop off in performance, even though Gallen had a down 2025.

Couldn't make it happen realistically in my modeling. That's +$15MM on the books without the bullpen being addressed yet. It's $44MM tied up in 2 pitchers, even assuming the new projections at Gallen is going to get 2yrs $42MM-ish. Also, what's Gallen's upside? He's probably treading water in the rotation swapping Ryan for Gallen, if we're being realistic after last season.

I was trading Ryan to the Nationals for CJ Abrams and James Wood, but I decided the Nationals wouldn't make the deal with only 2 years of Joe Ryan control. Even though Ryan WAS coveted across baseball, the number of teams willing to part with MLB talent the Twins really need right now is very limited. Those teams are looking to compete already so they're likely not wanting to play musical chairs with the roster at this stage when there isn't much on the FA market.

[Twins_Fan_in_NJ]

The Twins aren't going to win the AL Central and they may not even be an 80 win team. But...I still don't see Detroit as some type of juggernaut even with Valdez.