Week 14 NFL

[nicksaviking]

18 hours ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

It was, terrible. Williams obviously didn’t see a green jersey anywhere. I expected a wide open Bear, but nope. 

I thought Williams was going to scramble to the sideline for a first down. 

Great game by the Bears and their running game especially. 

I think I under-estimated Ben Johnson. Caleb Williams has not been good, yet that team is winning, and even more surprising in this era of extreme QB examination, no one is talking about how Caleb Williams has not been good. That's been a pretty slick trick.

[Cap'n Piranha]

On 12/3/2025 at 1:14 PM, nicksaviking said:

A conversation about having hope is what I most fear. If there isn't either near consensus conviction or accepted resignation, we as Viking fans are once again looking at an unclear path forward.

A third year of playing 'Is he or Isn't he?' is the worst case scenario.

I want JJ McDonut (no middle).  Be very clearly the option to start Week 1 of 2026 (albeit with a very experienced and not injury-prone backup), or very clearly cut-bait and get what you can in a trade.

[nicksaviking]

8 minutes ago, Cap'n Piranha said:

I want JJ McDonut (no middle).  Be very clearly the option to start Week 1 of 2026 (albeit with a very experienced and not injury-prone backup), or very clearly cut-bait and get what you can in a trade.

That's been my mantra. But for me at this point, I don't know that McCarthy can do enough the rest of the season to be very clearly the option for week 1. I think that ship has nearly sailed. I know last game was a win, but it was not good enough for me to change my tune. I know he didn't need to do more to win the game, but he needed to do a lot more to have me buy into his abilities.

I also don't care about the veteran backup. Because a good veteran backup basically just means the difference between being bad, and being respectable. It still has no impact on if your team is great, and that's the only thing I care about.

[Cap'n Piranha]

1 minute ago, nicksaviking said:

That's been my mantra. But for me at this point, I don't know that McCarthy can do enough the rest of the season to be very clearly the option for week 1. I think that ship has nearly sailed. I know last game was a win, but it was not good enough for me to change my tune. I know he didn't need to do more to win the game, but he needed to do a lot more to have me buy into his abilities.

Complete agreement.  If JJM never started another game for the Vikings, I would not be upset.  I don't think it's realistic to totally give up on him yet, but the path to him being a difference-making QB for the Vikings is so narrow right now, I'm already in mini-rebuild mode.  Just wish the Wilfs would feel the same.

[Aggies7]

Thielen after yesterday’s game where he had one catch for 4 yards:

”"It was crazy. It's been a wild week," Thielen said. "I found my love for the game back, just being out there playing the game I love....just thankful to be out there and thrown into a huge game and rivalry."”

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers-adam-thielen-emotional-message-debut-11175719

 

[gunnarthor]

1 hour ago, Aggies7 said:

Thielen after yesterday’s game where he had one catch for 4 yards:

”"It was crazy. It's been a wild week," Thielen said. "I found my love for the game back, just being out there playing the game I love....just thankful to be out there and thrown into a huge game and rivalry."”

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers-adam-thielen-emotional-message-debut-11175719

 

Diva.

[nicksaviking]

27 minutes ago, gunnarthor said:

Diva.

I think he and Aaron Rodgers are probably cut from the same cloth. I wonder if they've both talked about their favorite inoculation techniques yet.

[Vanimal46]

I just saw this on ESPN's bottom line and had to google this... They are working out Philip Rivers to see if he can join the team for the last 5 games of the season. He is 44 years old. At least the Vikings aren't that desperate.

[gunnarthor]

17 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

I just saw this on ESPN's bottom line and had to google this... They are working out Philip Rivers to see if he can join the team for the last 5 games of the season. He is 44 years old. At least the Vikings aren't that desperate.

Who?

[Vanimal46]

Just now, gunnarthor said:

Who?

Peppermint roll Philip Rivers

[gunnarthor]

Just now, Vanimal46 said:

Peppermint roll Philip Rivers

Sorry, I meant who was working him out. I honestly thought you meant some network was bringing him in to do play by play or something. I googled it. Colts are looking at him. Cripes. 

Anthony Richardson must be really bad now.

[Vanimal46]

1 minute ago, gunnarthor said:

Sorry, I meant who was working him out. I honestly thought you meant some network was bringing him in to do play by play or something. I googled it. Colts are looking at him. Cripes. 

Anthony Richardson must be really bad now.

Evidently Anthony Richardson has a broken eye socket from a workout. Who punched him in the face?

[gunnarthor]

3 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

Evidently Anthony Richardson has a broken eye socket from a workout. Who punched him in the face?

!!

Man, what is happening in Indy? Poor guy, that's horrible. 

[Vanimal46]

2 minutes ago, gunnarthor said:

!!

Man, what is happening in Indy? Poor guy, that's horrible. 

Indy now is in the worst spot in the NFL... Danny Dimes was on a 1 year deal and now gone for all of 2026 - they almost certainly would have kept him. They traded their 1st round picks the next 2 years for Sauce Gardner who is also out with a calf injury. I guess they have to try Anthony Richardson again next year? 

[nicksaviking]

Jones can likely come back and play next year. It was reported that Rodgers was planning on coming back to play THE SAME YEAR if the Jets hadn’t been eliminated from the playoffs.

But I’m no doctor. Maybe Jones’ injury is worse than Rodgers’ and Cousins’.

Wow, all three possessive surnames-ending-in-S? Philip RiverS might want to sit this out after all. 

 

[Parfigliano]

Hurts throws INT guy who INT runs then fumbles Hurts recovers fumble then gets hit and fumbles and SDG recovers.  2 turnovers for Hurts on same play.

[Vanimal46]

1 minute ago, Parfigliano said:

Hurts throws INT guy who INT runs then fumbles Hurts recovers fumble then gets hit and fumbles and SDG recovers.  2 turnovers for Hurts on same play.

That was a bizarre play to watch

[Vanimal46]

9 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Jones can likely come back and play next year. It was reported that Rodgers was planning on coming back to play THE SAME YEAR if the Jets hadn’t been eliminated from the playoffs.

But I’m no doctor. Maybe Jones’ injury is worse than Rodgers’ and Cousins’.

Wow, all three possessive surnames-ending-in-S? Philip RiverS might want to sit this out after all. 

 

Yeah I need to update my timeline on achilles injuries. My default is a year at least but I suppose Danny Dimes could elect the faster surgery recovery that Rodgers chose. Both him and Kirko weren't the same last year but they technically played. Hell, Kirko still doesn't look good 1.5 years removed from his achilles tear. 

[Aggies7]

Was hoping chargers would blow them out a bit. Pretty close game but feel like LA has had the upper hand

[Parfigliano]

4 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

That was a bizarre play to watch

Don't think I've ever seen a guy get two turnovers on same play.

[Aggies7]

Hurts having a night 

[Vanimal46]

2 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

Don't think I've ever seen a guy get two turnovers on same play.

I'm of course starting the stack of Hurts and AJ Brown in a must win week for fantasy. I know, no one cares about your fantasy league

[Aggies7]

Hurts having a night and again LA can’t take advantage 

[Parfigliano]

5 TO last 12 plays.  If I was conspiracy minded I'd be looking for suspicious prop bets hammering the over for number of TO in the game.

[Parfigliano]

Stop the game, bronze the ball and give to Hurts.  He threw to a guy on his team

[Vanimal46]

 

[Aggies7]

Ugh turnover fest 

[Parfigliano]

Bsht PF call on that tackle to get PHIL in FG range.

The more I watch the more I agree Lotta fixing going on.

[Vanimal46]

A missed FG to close the half. And that's about all I got in this slop fest tonight. 

[Aggies7]

5 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

Bsht PF call on that tackle to get PHIL in FG range.

The more I watch the more I agree Lotta fixing going on.

I don’t know he did throw him down hard enough he got hurt. Didn’t seem necessary