Article: Game Thread: Twins vs Phillies, 6/11 - 7:05pm

[Brock Beauchamp]

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[Brock Beauchamp]

Lineups:

 

Twins:

Jamey Carroll 3B

Joe Mauer C

Ryan Doumit RF

Josh Willingham DH

Justin Morneau 1B

Oswaldo Arcia LF

Brian Dozier 2B

Clete Thomas CF

Pedro Florimon SS

(P.J. Walters P)

 

Phillies:

Michael Young 3B

Ben Revere CF

Jimmy Rollins SS

Ryan Howard 1B

Domonic Brown LF

Delmon Young DH

John Mayberry RF

Freddy Galvis 2B

Humberto Quintero C

(Cole Hamels P)

[Shane Wahl]

Against a lefty, this is going to be interesting to see who is in the lineup. Herrmann doesn't have much of a split difference over the past two seasons, whereas Thomas really did in 2012. And the other options in RF are Arcia, Parmelee, and Doumit.

 

I would prefer Willingham-Herrmann-Parmelee, with Doumit DHing (and letting Arcia rest one game). But I bet it is Willingham-Thomas-Doumit with Arcia DHing.

[COtwin]

Thomas needs to be on a very short leash. If he keeps hitting like he has been known to, than I want to see Hermann and Arcia get all of his at bats. I know Thomas is our "only" CF but he still needs to hit the ball or it won't matter that he is a good average CF. also he is not a prospect and does not need checked out.

[Shane Wahl]

Thomas needs to be on a very short leash. If he keeps hitting like he has been known to, than I want to see Hermann and Arcia get all of his at bats. I know Thomas is our "only" CF but he still needs to hit the ball or it won't matter that he is a good average CF. also he is not a prospect and does not need checked out.

 

I agree and honestly, who cares about Clete Thomas going forward? If Chris Herrmann is an adequate and ultimately 3rd CF, that is a nice advance for Herrmann in his career as then a C and a utility outfielder.

[big dog]

Agreed, I'd love to have Hermann prove that he's an adequate PH/backup CF/backup catcher. He's had some nice moments so far. I hope he gets to play a lot while Hicks is out.

[Ultima Ratio]

This could be the worst defensive OF lineup in decades.

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[Brock Beauchamp]

This could be the worst defensive OF lineup in decades.

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Cuddyer started a handful of games in center field. Trust me, those were worse.

[Ultima Ratio]

In 2008 and 2013

 

RF: Kubel >> Doumit

 

CF: Cuddyer < Thomas

 

LF: DYoung > Arcia

 

 

Toss up.

[Riverbrian]

I gotta do some coaching tonight so I'll be Glorm like and join the game thread late... I just want to say... Worley has been a disappointment and May is struggling with his control but I still make that trade out of necessity.

 

As for Revere... He hasn't hit that well this year but I still miss watching him play. I will be secretly hoping he puts on a show of some sort in the next 3 games... Hopefully all the other Phillies tank so I'm comfortable hoping good things for Ben.

[Brock Beauchamp]

In 2008 and 2013

 

RF: Kubel >> Doumit

 

CF: Cuddyer

 

LF: DYoung > Arcia

 

 

Toss up.

 

If you're giving >> to Kubel over Doumit, then you have to also say:

 

Thomas >>>>>> Cuddyer

 

Cuddy was a pretty bad right fielder whose only good attribute was his arm. He was an absolutely atrocious center fielder, the most important position in the outfield. Cuddyer's career dWAR is -13, most of it as a corner outfielder. That's horrendous.

 

Also, Delmon's career dWAR is nearly -9 and he's not even close to 30. I'll take Arcia any day.

[Guest USAFChief]

First thing you notice about the Twins OF is the wide shot at the start of the game...they're all playing with their ass against the fence.

 

I'd really like the Twins to start playing their OFers shallower in most situations. I realize that's not likely to happen, since they've been doing that throughout the Gardy era, but I can wish.

 

As to who's playing the corners, unless they're absolutely terrible, it just doesn't matter that much.

[mikeee]

pj! pj! pj!

[mikeee]

WTH happened to Hamels? 2-9? 4.56 era?

[VATwinsFan]

I was at the Sunday evening game agains the Nats -- get Herrman in the lineup as much as possible. He looked like the only one out there who was fired up and wanted to play ball.

[Ultima Ratio]

Small ball. Good job Joe, get that runner in scoring position.

[IdahoPilgrim]

Small ball. Good job Joe, get that runner in scoring position.

 

Yep. More exciting to let them die at 3rd.

[Guest USAFChief]

Small ball. Good job Joe, get that runner in scoring position.

I know that's what I look for in a 23M per year player.

[Joe A. Preusser]

I know that's what I look for in a 23M per year player.

 

I look for him to make whatever play his coach asks him to make based on the field situation. Although it's unlikely Gardy put the sign on there anyway.

[Ultima Ratio]

Tough room

[IdahoPilgrim]

Tough room

 

Tough time to be a Twins fan.

[Joe A. Preusser]

Tough room

 

Nah, I just don't share Chief's disdain for small ball.

[Guest USAFChief]

I look for him to make whatever play his coach asks him to make based on the field situation. Although it's unlikely Gardy put the sign on there anyway.

I agree...it's unlikely Gardy gave him the sign for "top one softly up the first base line."

[CairoCrown]

Ugh, what's with the crawler along the bottom of the screen? Way to drop the ball on the broadcast FSN!!!!!!!11111

[Ultima Ratio]

Yep. More exciting to let them die at 3rd.

 

All about the suspense. Not all about runs.

[IdahoPilgrim]

All about the suspense. Not all about runs.

 

OK, I hear ya, but you gotta admit that the first doesn't matter as much if you don't have the second.

[Joe A. Preusser]

I agree...it's unlikely Gardy gave him the sign for "top one softly up the first base line."

 

Well, you'd be just as annoyed if Mauer had bunted him over though, right?

[IdahoPilgrim]

Looks like a good crowd there tonight.

[Ultima Ratio]

Nah, I just don't share Chief's disdain for small ball.

 

I think it was a gentle jab at our franchise player actually, but can't speak for Chief.

[Guest USAFChief]

Well, you'd be just as annoyed if Mauer had bunted him over thought, right?

More so.

 

I'm somewhat flabbergasted by the idea that moving one runner up one base at the expense of an out, in the bottom of the first, is a good thing in any way shape or form.