StormJH1 Verified Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I'll fully cop to not knowing who the heck Antoan Richardson was until last week, but he would have made more sense than Clete Thomas, let alone Arcia now. Not that I have a problem with Arcia getting at bats in the majors, but they probably should play Clete everyday now in CF (I really don't want to give Arcia the experience of screwing up CF in the majors when it isn't even his real position). Richardson could at least potentially hold down the leadoff spot for some time, Clete ain't doing that!
LaBombo Verified Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Leading the league in k/9 isn't enough?Pitchers... or hitters?
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Maybe I'm crazy, but I think I'm most comfortable with Parmalee out there. If I had said that four months ago I'd have been borderline worthy of a straight jacket, but of the options we have....I'd rather get all the big bats in the lineup and put Parms in CF. As well as he's played RF, he can't be any worse than the other options.
the blade Provisional Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Parmelee is hitting? Yeah, his May was decent (.750 OPS), and much better than his April, but he's off to slow start in June again. He needs to AVERAGE a .750 OPS monthly, and so far, that's looking like his peak. If health allows, I'd throw Arcia into center and leave Parmelee alone in right, but I can't say Parmelee has really locked anything down. I don't feel great about Parmelee as a hitter, but Aricia just can't play center. He looks overwhelmed in right, especially when he was to make plays on the run forward and running back. That being said, I think the more abs for Aricia the better...but he can't hang in CF
boylan Provisional Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Since they DL'ed Hicks so quickly I'm assuming that Hicks has a grade 2 injury. Have they announced this? Means he'll be out 2-3 weeks and, my personal opinion, subject to re-injury all season. I just can't believe they'll put up with Thomas K'ing for that long. Any word on Ramirez? I assume his brains are still scrambled since he hasn't started a rehab stint and so he's probably not an option for months. mastroianni? no rehab assignment yet. Months. Parmelee? The guy that said he was a 20 range is exactly right. Arcia? Adventure in center field. Escobar? Gardy would love that. This Antoan Richardson (a Ben Revere clone physically) from AAA? A free agent (retread) signing? We should have a poll, who is in CF July 1st.
Shane Wahl Verified Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Since they DL'ed Hicks so quickly I'm assuming that Hicks has a grade 2 injury. Have they announced this? Means he'll be out 2-3 weeks and, my personal opinion, subject to re-injury all season. I just can't believe they'll put up with Thomas K'ing for that long. Any word on Ramirez? I assume his brains are still scrambled since he hasn't started a rehab stint and so he's probably not an option for months. mastroianni? no rehab assignment yet. Months. Parmelee? The guy that said he was a 20 range is exactly right. Arcia? Adventure in center field. Escobar? Gardy would love that. This Antoan Richardson (a Ben Revere clone physically) from AAA? A free agent (retread) signing? We should have a poll, who is in CF July 1st. Other than Richardson, the best healthy option is Herrmann and you don't mention him. I am serious about this. He was an athlete who got moved to C and LF from SS. He has some athleticism and just will need some CF practice.
boylan Provisional Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Other than Richardson, the best healthy option is Herrmann and you don't mention him. I am serious about this. He was an athlete who got moved to C and LF from SS. He has some athleticism and just will need some CF practice. Good catch. I had spaced him out. I've only seen him the one time in LF and he seemed to know where the walls were. I could see Gardy giving him a whirl in CF if he has any range at all.
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Parmelee? The guy that said he was a 20 range is exactly right. If Parmelee has 20 range... Willingham, Doumit and Arcia have 1 Range. I really don't know what else Parmelee has to do to prove himself defensively other than do it for 10 more years. I have no problem leaving Parmelee in RF because he is good out there and he's not a CF prototype and I have no problem with Herrmann being the backup CF because I don't know. However, Can we stop pretending that Parmelee is in a wheelchair. I've seen him run down balls out there and run a long way to do so. 20 Range? 20 Range? 20 range? The Scouting scale is 20 to 80... That means that Parmelee is as bad as humanly possible? That ain't the guy I've been watching. Not even close... If Parmelee is a 20... Somebody doesn't know what a 20 is and it ain't me!!!
johnnydakota Verified Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Huh. So Herrmann is backup CFer again. I still don't know where Arcia plays, especially now that Parmelee & Doumit are hitting. Id have rather seen Antuan Richardson (is that his name?), I think. Antoan R. and yes, he is a leadoff hitter type with speed and has had a cup of coffee....Good call and agreeing
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Who is the author of the "20" scouting scale rating of Chris Parmelee? Can someone produce it? That is more important information than the actual rating itself.
ericchri Provisional Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 If Parmelee has 20 range... Willingham, Doumit and Arcia have 1 Range. I have to agree with this. Parmelee's build just seems a little different such that he doesn't look like somebody who should be able to run, but he actually moves fairly well. He's no burner, but he puts Willingham and Doumit to shame, and then some. That doesn't make him a good CF candidate, but if my option is Clete Thomas, I'm going with Parmelee. I am curious if Herrmann will get a chance, though. He's playing fairly well for the moment, might as well run him out there.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 If Parmelee has 20 range... Willingham, Doumit and Arcia have 1 Range. I really don't know what else Parmelee has to do to prove himself defensively other than do it for 10 more years. I have no problem leaving Parmelee in RF because he is good out there and he's not a CF prototype and I have no problem with Herrmann being the backup CF because I don't know. However, Can we stop pretending that Parmelee is in a wheelchair. I've seen him run down balls out there and run a long way to do so. 20 Range? 20 Range? 20 range? The Scouting scale is 20 to 80... That means that Parmelee is as bad as humanly possible? That ain't the guy I've been watching. Not even close... If Parmelee is a 20... Somebody doesn't know what a 20 is and it ain't me!!! I continually joked early in the season about Parmelee passing the Delmon-threshold and then the Kubel-esque stigmatization, and finally, the Cuddy-quandry. Parm has clearly transcended recent Twins corner OF defensive lore. Anyone who says something different hasn't been watching or probably needs to make a public mea culpa if they were actually paid to make that original "20 range" rating.
stringer bell Verified Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I'm going to keep on the Richardson bus. Here's another reason why--if the Twin decided they want to control Hicks for another year...errr I mean if they decide he needs some Triple A time, Richardson can be their leadoff hitter. If Hicks returns in two weeks, Richardson would make the superior fourth outfielder because he is older and not considered a prospect, but mostly because he hits lefthanded (Hicks' weaker side) and has leadoff skills. I don't hold out hope of him being a star, but to plug the leadoff hole for 2013 he I the best bet in the Twins' system.
boylan Provisional Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 If Parmelee has 20 range... Willingham, Doumit and Arcia have 1 Range. I really don't know what else Parmelee has to do to prove himself defensively other than do it for 10 more years. I have no problem leaving Parmelee in RF because he is good out there and he's not a CF prototype and I have no problem with Herrmann being the backup CF because I don't know. However, Can we stop pretending that Parmelee is in a wheelchair. I've seen him run down balls out there and run a long way to do so. 20 Range? 20 Range? 20 range? The Scouting scale is 20 to 80... That means that Parmelee is as bad as humanly possible? That ain't the guy I've been watching. Not even close... If Parmelee is a 20... Somebody doesn't know what a 20 is and it ain't me!!! I think it was hyperbole to make the point that Parmelee hasn't got the range to play CF which you have to agree with. Your ranking on Parmelee vs. the other three is right on with respect to the corners. I would say that Parmelee plays a "smart" corner. Arcia might be faster but Parmelee will get to more balls. Can you imagine Arcia in center? It would be like watching Willingham "chase" after balls.
boylan Provisional Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I have to agree with this. Parmelee's build just seems a little different such that he doesn't look like somebody who should be able to run, but he actually moves fairly well. He's no burner, but he puts Willingham and Doumit to shame, and then some. That doesn't make him a good CF candidate, but if my option is Clete Thomas, I'm going with Parmelee. I am curious if Herrmann will get a chance, though. He's playing fairly well for the moment, might as well run him out there. Agreed. One problem with Clete Thomas in CF is that apparently that means he has to bat too. May he go 4-4 tonight.
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I think it was hyperbole to make the point that Parmelee hasn't got the range to play CF which you have to agree with. Your ranking on Parmelee vs. the other three is right on with respect to the corners. I would say that Parmelee plays a "smart" corner. Arcia might be faster but Parmelee will get to more balls. Can you imagine Arcia in center? It would be like watching Willingham "chase" after balls. I only take issue with "20". Parmelee in CF isn't anybody's dream scenerio... I think the current lineup construction options are like that scene in Apollo 13. The scene where a bunch of engineers are in a room and they drop a bunch of stuff on the table and the head guy says "we gotta make this... fit into this... using nothing but that". This is what Gardy is paid to do and I'm hopeful that Arcia isn't the CF option from what I've seen.
boylan Provisional Member Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I only take issue with "20". Parmelee in CF isn't anybody's dream scenerio... I think the current lineup construction options are like that scene in Apollo 13. The scene where a bunch of engineers are in a room and they drop a bunch of stuff on the table and the head guy says "we gotta make this... fit into this... using nothing but that". This is what Gardy is paid to do and I'm hopeful that Arcia isn't the CF option from what I've seen. Minnesota, we have a problem.
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