Orioles as Trading Partner?

[diehardtwinsfan]

I'd be fine getting Gausman for Morneau, but something tells me that Baltimore's GM won't have the same opinion...

 

 

then again, we could have had Gausman in the draft had we wanted him... It would be nice having an A- grade pitcher in the system instead of a B+ centerfielder.

 

I tend to agree that if Mornea simply repeats the 2nd half of this year at the beginning of next season, he's going to fetch something nice at the deadline.

[kab21]

I think everyone in this thread needs to realize that you are going to need an Upton or Andrus type player to get Machado and bundy. And Twins don't have the pieces to get Gausman.

 

Schoop might be an optimistic target. Arrieta might as well but the O's need pitching and the Twins don't have any to trade.

[old nurse]

I think everyone in this thread needs to realize that you are going to need an Upton or Andrus type player to get Machado and bundy. And Twins don't have the pieces to get Gausman.

 

Schoop might be an optimistic target. Arrieta might as well but the O's need pitching and the Twins don't have any to trade.

 

Realize that reality is not what many of the posts are based on.

[Mike Sixel]

Gausmann is pretty much Meyer, why do you feel he is so hard to get?

[FrodaddyG]

Gausmann is pretty much Meyer, why do you feel he is so hard to get?

No, he's significantly more valuable.

[Mike Sixel]

How? I am curious why we think Gausman is considerably more valuable. And if he is, why pass on him given the system they have?

[SweetOne69]

Gausman is impossible to get as he can't be traded until August at the earliest.

 

Draft picks can't be traded until 1 year after their signing date.

[Mike Sixel]

I know that, but you can do a player to be named later...and then agree later it is him.

[FrodaddyG]

How? I am curious why we think Gausman is considerably more valuable. And if he is, why pass on him given the system they have?

Because he has better command, throws just as hard, and already has a great feel for his change.

 

There's a reason he went in the top 4, and was in the discussion at #1 overall, and Meyer was a late first round guy. The later guys generally have more warts, and the guys that go at the very top are usually more polished.

 

And I'd guess they passed because they had Buxton higher on their board. Best player available is the only way to go when you're picking at the top of the draft.

[SweetOne69]

While you can do a PTBNL, I don't think you can wait 9 months to name that player.

 

I could see Gausman as a PTBNL in a June or July trade not a December or January one.

[SweetOne69]

I know that, but you can do a player to be named later...and then agree later it is him.

 

PTBNL trades must be completed within 6 months of the remainder of the trade so even that prevents Gausman from being in a trade at this time.

 

They would have to wait until mid-March in order to include Gausman as a PTBNL.

[Mike Sixel]

Did not know that, thanks.

[AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS]

Did not know that, thanks.

 

me either...thanks SweetOne!

[Twins Twerp]

How? I am curious why we think Gausman is considerably more valuable. And if he is, why pass on him given the system they have?

Because he has better command, throws just as hard, and already has a great feel for his change.

 

There's a reason he went in the top 4, and was in the discussion at #1 overall, and Meyer was a late first round guy. The later guys generally have more warts, and the guys that go at the very top are usually more polished.

 

And I'd guess they passed because they had Buxton higher on their board. Best player available is the only way to go when you're picking at the top of the draft.

 

I am going to to have to disagree with you. In all do respect, Meyer and Gausman are about the same as far as prospects go. You can't take into account where a guy was drafted. Had Meyer been in this years draft, he would have been up there with the Gausmans and Appels. That is like saying Berrios is not in the same league as Wimmers because he was drafted much later. For one, Meyers fell because he was a Boras guy. But mainly, Meyers was taken in possibly the deepest draft since the first draft in 1965 (wikipedia.com). On the flipside, last years draft was historically shallow. I would argue that Meyers and Gausman will be similarly ranked in all national prospect lists and Meyer has a leg up as he has pitched a full season already. I say this with all do respect to Frodaddy G Bones.

[kab21]

I like it how you try to make an argument using all the wrong stuff while ignoring the stuff that matters. The wrong stuff = strength of draft and Boras. The stuff that matters = better command and better change.

[CC7]

mourneau for britton and arriteta straight up. dump salary

[kab21]

mourneau for britton and arriteta straight up. dump salary

 

If you're dumping salary then you usually don't get talent back. I'm hoping that Baltimore would overvalue Morneau enough that they would trade either of these players with the Twins picking up 4+M of the contract. I like Arrieta more though.

[CC7]

mourneau for britton and arriteta straight up. dump salary

 

If you're dumping salary then you usually don't get talent back. I'm hoping that Baltimore would overvalue Morneau enough that they would trade either of these players with the Twins picking up 4+M of the contract. I like Arrieta more though.

 

okay, we eat 2 million of the 7 million