Trade Retrospective: How Did the Twins Do in the Ryan Pressly Trade?

[jorgenswest]

I am with Chief here. They needed bullpen help last year and should have had Pressly for the year. Maybe with Pressly they get home field advantage and never see the Yankees in the playoffs. The Twins should have had the foresight in 2018 to see the bullpen need and see that the team was ready to contend for 2019.

[USAFChief]

This is where good scouting comes into play. The better the scouting, the better to determine if there is a high or low likelihood of future success for a player. And that is how you judge by what's known at the time. And whether you are a fan of it or not, using hindsight is the only way to judge trades. If you don't use hindsight that means that trading Ramos for Capps was a good trade for the Twins.

fair enough.

 

Except the part about Ramos.

[Vanimal46]

I don’t know why we had to open up this old wound again. Hated the trade at the time, still hate it today.

[TheLeviathan]

 

I am with Chief here. They needed bullpen help last year and should have had Pressly for the year. Maybe with Pressly they get home field advantage and never see the Yankees in the playoffs. The Twins should have had the foresight in 2018 to see the bullpen need and see that the team was ready to contend for 2019.

 

The bullpen wasn't bad last year.  Of course, you can almost always use more bullpen help, but it's hard to argue the bullpen held back the 2019 Twins.  It's also hard to argue Pressly would've helped a ton given his second half performance.  (Whatever the reason may be for it)

 

I'm not sure, even with hindsight, we can say keeping Pressly would've moved the needle a whole lot given how his circumstances/performance played out.  What remains to be seen is how the prospects we received play out.

 

SSS...but I like what I saw from Alcala as a reliever last night.  His stuff is nasty.  But time will tell.

[Aerodeliria]

Of the three trades being discussed, this is the one that disgusted me. Houston knew exactly what to do with Pressly the second he arrived. They would have coughed up more had we held out.

[Aerodeliria]

Of the three trades being discussed, this is the one that disgusted me. Houston knew exactly what to do with Pressly the second he arrived. They would have coughed up more had we held out.

[Aerodeliria]

Of the three trades being discussed, this is the one that disgusted me. Houston knew exactly what to do with Pressly the second he arrived. They would have coughed up more had we held out.

[Aerodeliria]

Of the three trades being discussed, this is the one that disgusted me. Houston knew exactly what to do with Pressly the second he arrived. They would have coughed up more had we held out.

[Aerodeliria]

Of the three trades being discussed, this is the one that disgusted me. Houston knew exactly what to do with Pressly the second he arrived. They would have coughed up more had we held out.

[Aerodeliria]

Of the three trades being discussed, this is the one that disgusted me. Houston knew exactly what to do with Pressly the second he arrived. They would have coughed up more had we held out.

[Aerodeliria]

Of the three trades being discussed, this is the one that disgusted me. Houston knew exactly what to do with Pressly the second he arrived. They would have coughed up more had we held out.

[Major League Ready]

Grading the trade at this point is pretty tough for me. Alcala is a ML pitcher. However, is he a 7th inning guy or a set-up guy or a closer? IDK. If he is a set-up guy by next year, I will take 4 years of a set-up guy for 1 year of a closer any day. I say one year because losing Pressley for the last couple months of 2018 had no consequence to the team. I really do not find his loss in 2019 all that consequential. The team won 101 games and Pressley would not have made a difference in terms of playoff results. Winning 103 vs 101 games with the same result in the playoff is not what I consider impactful.

 

I am not sure what to think of Celestino. He was very good the 2nd half of 2019. He was one of the prospects I was most interested to follow in 2020. He might be a 5th outfielder or he could be solid starter. Where he lands in those extremes would significantly change the grading of this trade for me. If Alcala is a high leverage RP for 4 plus years and Celestino becomes an average CF, this was a great trade. If neither one of them pan out the opportunity cost was high but the impact is still quite modest.