Teams Inquiring On Eddie Rosario

[dex8425]

If we're talking Twins and Rays, what about two years of Rosario for one year of Charlie Morton? According to baseball trade values they're not that far apart. If we throw in somebody like Nick Gordon it's very close. 

 

Not sure why the Rays would do that, but he is more $$ than Snell. Two years/30 million with a vesting option for 2021 as well. 

[twinkiesfan11]

 

Favorable even if it's Rosario, Larnach and Balazovic? Rosario, Kirilloff and Graterol would be more painful, no doubt. But we're talking about a 27 year old, who is one year removed from a Cy Young award, and controlled at a very reasonable price for the next 4 years. 

 

Any of the top 5 prospects are top 100 in all of baseball and all have more control at an even lower cost. I wouldn't be a fan of including any combination of two of them plus Rosario for Snell. Save for his one Cy-Young season he's been either injured or inconsistent or both. I wouldn't be surprised to see Graterol or Balazovic have better careers over the long-haul, both have better minor league numbers by level. 

[AZTwin]

 

Can't tell if you're serious, but if you are, there's absolutely no way they would trade a package or Franco AND Snell to the Twins for anything the Twins could realistically offer.

 

I am serious.  There is no way the Twins would have done the original trade.   But its true, I've been high on Eddie since Low-A ball (in Beloit) when I watched him and Sano.  I've been spot on with past trades and free agency as well so I think I have a pretty good track record the last 10+ years.

[diehardtwinsfan]

Problem with trading Rosario is that we don't have a ready replacment. The second problem is that corner OF values are somewhat depressed right now. I'd be all for trading Rosario if he brought back impact pitching. I would even toss in a prospect or two, but there had better be a good plan to fill that spot because our internal options to replace him likely won't be ready come ST. 

[redstorm]

I am serious.  There is no way the Twins would have done the original trade.   But its true, I've been high on Eddie since Low-A ball (in Beloit) when I watched him and Sano.  I've been spot on with past trades and free agency as well so I think I have a pretty good track record the last 10+ years.

I’ll make sure to give you all the credit if Tampa trades Snell and Franco for Rosario, Balazovic and Larnach

[AZTwin]

 

Just for fun...

 

Diamondbacks Receive:

Rosario

Rooker

Thorpe

Gordon

Enlow

 

Twins Recieve:

Ray

Escobar

This is the closest Ive seen a proposed trade on here in a long long time.   I think you only consider it if you can lock up Ray for a few more years.

[amjgt]

That trade sounds very favorable for the Rays. Rosario plus pick of basically 2 of our top 5 prospects seems like a massive overpay. I've seen the Snell rumors too and can't fathom why Tampa would trade him anyway, seems unrealistic.

At the extremes...

If we get 2018 Snell, then we win the trade almost no matter what

If we get 2019 Snell, then the Rays win the trade, unless all the prospects included never really amount to anything.

 

Snell will likely fall somewhere in the middle, so it’ll depend on what the prospects become.

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

Just for fun...

 

Diamondbacks Receive:

Rosario

Rooker

Thorpe

Gordon

Enlow

 

Twins Recieve:

Ray

Escobar

This looks a little like a video game trade, where you pile up throw-in types until they add up to something. Nothing wrong with including one or two in a trade package, but you probably can't build a whole big package around them exclusively.

 

Also, signing a guy one year, then trading him the next would be a bit unusual, especially when the player and team does well in that one year. I don't think Arizona would be shopping Escobar, and would probably need a more compelling return to move him at this point.

[Mike Sixel]

At the extremes...

If we get 2018 Snell, then we win the trade almost no matter what

If we get 2019 Snell, then the Rays win the trade, unless all the prospects included never really amount to anything.

 

Snell will likely fall somewhere in the middle, so it’ll depend on what the prospects become.

Isn't what really matters what Snell does? I mean, you never know if the prospects turn out the same in different orgs.

 

Not that I think there is any chance they trade for him.

[notoriousgod71]

I think everyone is seriously over-estimating how much it would take to land a legitimate starting pitcher. Almost every trade is completely lopsided in the favor of the the team getting the established pitcher.

 

The lone exception I can think of is the Sale for Moncada/Kopech trade over the past 10 years.

 

 

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

I think everyone is seriously over-estimating how much it would take to land a legitimate starting pitcher. Almost every trade is completely lopsided in the favor of the the team getting the established pitcher.

 

The lone exception I can think of is the Sale for Moncada/Kopech trade over the past 10 years.

You're going to have to list examples to back up that claim.

 

If your basis is Cole, remember that Coles don't grow on trees, there's usually a lot of suitors when they are available, and the selling team might have specific requirements that may be difficult to satisfy, even if not requiring top prospects. (The Twins at the time didn't really have a Musgrove/Feliz/Moran package to offer, in terms of potential and MLB experience/readiness for the reloading Pirates. I could see the Rockies or Diamondbacks similarly looking to reload in a Gray or Ray trade, respectively.)

 

But off the top of my head, there are several recent trades which correlate just fine with the notion that the Twins may have to part with one of their top 3 prospects. Paxton cost a top-50 prospect last winter; Archer cost a couple recent top 20 prospects.

 

If you are talking rentals or 1.5 year players -- somehow the price was high enough to prevent the Twins from making a deal this past summer, despite a fairly clear need. And a lot of sellers have already sold -- Toronto, Arizona, etc. Are they selling any more? And do they still have anything left to sell?

 

Among younger or more under-the-radar types, there's Zac Gallen who basically cost a top-50 prospect. The other Marlins starters might be cheaper but might not be as good, and of course there's little urgency for them to deal either.

 

The Twins may be at a disadvantage right now too, because there aren't a lot of clear sellers (at least not a lot with good pitchers!) and a few of the most rumored sellers (Detroit with Boyd, Cleveland with Kluber/Carassco, and maybe even KC with Duffy) are in our division, which might complicate matters a bit (especially with Cleveland).