gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Man, this is depressing. I was in Paris two weeks ago and climbed all the way to the top. Took photos with the gargoyles and my kids loved it. There were so many works of art inside it - hundreds of years old. I saw a sculpture that was well over a thousand years old. I hope they managed to rescue some things from the fire.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 As a great lover of architecture this is just heartbreaking.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Yeah, I’m just in shock. I’ve been to Paris many times and this is just horrible.
D. Hocking Verified Member Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 I saw this in a tweet - hopefully it is true: Translation: Good news: all the artworks have been saved. The treasure of the cathedral is intact, the crown of thorns, the holy sacraments. A glimmer of light amid the darkness. and this tweet -- in addition the architecture and art - simply all of the history that has occurred there. From the coronation of Henry VI in the middle of the Hundred Years War, to the coronation of Naoleon, to the liberation of Paris form the Nazis, to the funeral mass for Charles De Gaulle, it's mind boggling how much history has occurred at Notre Dame.
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted April 15, 2019 Author Posted April 15, 2019 I saw this in a tweet - hopefully it is true: and this tweet -- in addition the architecture and art - simply all of the history that has occurred there.I would imagine that the crown especially was protected and CNN is reporting that people are on hand focusing on rescuing the treasures in the cathedral. But there is just so much artwork fastened to the walls that I'm afraid we won't see again. I've been to Notre Dame three times and the giant artwork in each alcove is just beautiful. Many of the pieces are 400-500 years old. Not sure its realistic that they could save those big pieces.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 https://twitter.com/BarackObama/status/1117886698568830976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1117886698568830976&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2Fworld%2Flive-news%2Fnotre-dame-fire%2Findex.htmlNow that is what a president should say.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 I would imagine that the crown especially was protected and CNN is reporting that people are on hand focusing on rescuing the treasures in the cathedral. But there is just so much artwork fastened to the walls that I'm afraid we won't see again. I've been to Notre Dame three times and the giant artwork in each alcove is just beautiful. Many of the pieces are 400-500 years old. Not sure its realistic that they could save those big pieces.Hopefully they are smart enough to start cutting them out of the frames.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Now that is what a president should say.Let me guess, Trump said, "I know all the best dames".
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Let me guess, Trump said, "I know all the best dames". He actually offered advice on how to put it out......
D. Hocking Verified Member Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 I would imagine that the crown especially was protected and CNN is reporting that people are on hand focusing on rescuing the treasures in the cathedral. But there is just so much artwork fastened to the walls that I'm afraid we won't see again. I've been to Notre Dame three times and the giant artwork in each alcove is just beautiful. Many of the pieces are 400-500 years old. Not sure its realistic that they could save those big pieces. I have only been there once and my memory is a little shaky of what I saw there and what I saw in other cathedrals, but not only attached to the walls, but how much was painted into the walls as a fresco that cannot be removed. I also read the roof was 13,000 oak trees cut in the 12th century. I had a friend whose house burnt down. They said the firefighters were amazingly good at [pulling things out that they thought would have sentimental value. Hopefully more was saved than we thought would have been possible. Let me guess, Trump said, "I know all the best dames". He asked why planes were not dumping water on the fire. Must act quickly!
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 He actually offered advice on how to put it out......Honestly, that would have been my second guess. But, there are plenty of threads here for politics, so I'll just leave it at that and offer my hopes that they can salvage as much of it as is possible. Do we even build iconic structures anymore? Is anyone going to care in 900 years if US Bank Stadium burns down?
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 He actually offered advice on how to put it out......And commented on how inept the French are at fighting fires.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Honestly, that would have been my second guess. But, there are plenty of threads here for politics, so I'll just leave it at that and offer my hopes that they can salvage as much of it as is possible.Do we even build iconic structures anymore? Is anyone going to care in 900 years if US Bank Stadium burns down? My new kitchen is pretty nice.....but I'm not sure much of anything we build now will even last 900 years, let alone be worth keeping around. to be clear, I mean structures.....there will be art and books and other stuff, but buildings? Maybe a handful.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Honestly, that would have been my second guess. But, there are plenty of threads here for politics, so I'll just leave it at that and offer my hopes that they can salvage as much of it as is possible. Do we even build iconic structures anymore? Is anyone going to care in 900 years if US Bank Stadium burns down?The huge church in the middle of Dresden was rebuilt. I saw it in a couple of various stages. Was amazing. All the skill and artsmanship that went into it.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 The huge church in the middle of Dresden was rebuilt. I saw it in a couple of various stages. Was amazing. All the skill and artsmanship that went into it. Yup, but it's not quite the same, but yup.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 The Frauenkirche. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden_Frauenkirche
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 15, 2019 Posted April 15, 2019 Yup, but it's not quite the same, but yup.Not as iconic as Notre Dame, for sure, but it was mostly a ruin at the time of that undertaking. It was a massive rebuild using the best artisans from all over.
biggentleben Verified Member Posted April 16, 2019 Posted April 16, 2019 I've never been, but my wife has been heartbroken seeing this. She talked about someday taking our kids to tour churches of Europe, and Notre Dame would absolutely be among the top 5 coming into today. Just heartbreaking.
ericchri Provisional Member Posted April 16, 2019 Posted April 16, 2019 We actually have a vacation to Europe already planned for this summer (plane tickets and hotels are already booked/purchased). Paris was one of our stops and Notre Dame was likely to be on the itinerary and obviously that's not going to happen now. Disappointed for us obviously, but devastated for people to whom it is much more than just a site to visit on vacation.
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