Blake Parker Signs Officially; John Curtiss DFAd

[ashbury]

(just kidding)

OR IS HE????

 

 

 

 

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[old nurse]

 

Thread Runner-Up.

 

That 2014 draft showed how much the front end was grasping at straws, desperately searching for some hidden prospect-rating inefficiencies. And we never found out who the genius was behind that highly flawed theory.

 

For many of us Twins fans, it was the final straw in the Ryan Era.

2014 draft after the first round has produced Brian Anderson in Miami, Rhys Hoskins and Jordan Montgomery. After the first round everybody is grasping at straws. It is too bad that they forgot about Anderson whom they had drafted out of high school.

[Mr. Brooks]

Fair. When should I expect them to be good for more than one year?

Well, I know this probably isn't what you want to hear. But, timeline, IMO, likely hinges a lot on how Buxton and Sano turn out.

I think if those two right the ship this year, and start playing to their potential, they could shift into "compliment the existing core" mode, and be buyers at the deadline, with the plan being full go in 2020.

But, if they continue to be inconsistent at best, then I think we'll continue to see a gradual, ground up build, and that gets pushed back a couple years.

I know you'll likely respond something like, "either bet on those two and go in now, or don't and rebuild", but I don't think they'll take that risk, and I don't blame them.

They'll likely only get one shot at this, so I don't think they'll be willing to take any shortcuts.

If they bet on Buxton/Sano now, and start trading prospects and locking up long term cash commitments, only to see those 2 flame out, then they're likely doomed.

Believe me, I've suffered just as long with this franchise as you have. And I want to see wins equally as bad. But, I want sustainable long term windows.

For now, I'm going to continue to give them the benefit of the doubt that they have a long term blueprint that they are committed to, even if that's hard to see from the outside.

I'm willing to suffer through a couple more years if it pays off down the road.

[Mike Sixel]

I'd believe that, but Buxton and Sano were really good two years ago. Instead of trading prospects, and acquiring long or medium term MLB assets, they signed a bunch of bargains. I'm not confident they'll do anything different next off season. Hopeful, but doubting.

 

I do agree completely, their ability to compete depends on those two being stars, and everyone else being good. There is very little room for mistakes on this roster, given all the uncertainty. You can see contention, which makes their inactivity in starting pitching even more frustrating to me. Or relief pitching.

[lukeduke1980]

 

I'd believe that, but Buxton and Sano were really good two years ago. Instead of trading prospects, and acquiring long or medium term MLB assets, they signed a bunch of bargains. I'm not confident they'll do anything different next off season. Hopeful, but doubting.

If Buxton and Sano start to pan out, I expect the narrative will evolve into something like 'we've got some blossoming talent that is expected to start earning larger arbitration figures, and will therefore require a large portion of our payroll.'  

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

I was half serious. Mostly wondering if he officially announced his retirement yet.

 

No idea if he has or hasn't... but he was pretty bad last season. 

[KirbyDome89]

 

I don't believe anyone's claimed that, but I find it rather annoying that this FO has the tendency to give up on young relievers like Rosario, Chargios, and Curtiss before I feel like they're gotten their fair shake. They've also lost Burdi and are committed to not trying Jake Reed out.

It'd be one thing if they were being jettisoned for established higher tier relief arms, but a lot of the guys being added to the pen have been projects or question marks themselves. 

[jokin]

 

 After the first round everybody is grasping at straws. I

 

Bunk.

Apples and oranges.

The still-born "PLAN" conceptualization was the straw-grasping by the Twins- and the person or person who came up with it should have been held accountable.

 

BPA, "fit", ceiling- and especially analytics- should be the guiding criterion in the draft

[jokin]

 

 

I'd believe that, but Buxton and Sano were really good two years ago. Instead of trading prospects, and acquiring long or medium term MLB assets, they signed a bunch of bargains. I'm not confident they'll do anything different next off season. Hopeful, but doubting.

I do agree completely, their ability to compete depends on those two being stars, and everyone else being good. There is very little room for mistakes on this roster, given all the uncertainty. You can see contention, which makes their inactivity in starting pitching even more frustrating to me. Or relief pitching.

 

I'm holding out some optimism that the braintrust has a list and is waiting for the rollback of certain FA's salary expectations and jumping in to the market during spring training. With maybe a trade of an excess OF or SS prospect or two for immediate help.

[old nurse]

 

Bunk.

Apples and oranges.

The still-born "PLAN" conceptualization was the straw-grasping by the Twins- and the person or person who came up with it should have been held accountable.

Sam Clay was the only reliever drafted who pitched a full season as a starter in the minors.  The still-born plan of drafting a college reliever that might get to the majors is reasonable. Any other idea that you have of the Twins intentions when they drafted these players is not born out by how they were used after being drafted.