When Will Royce Lewis Be Promoted?

[ShouldaCouldaWoulda]

Wouldn't Javier need to be promoted then too? Is he ready for -A?

[Bob Sacamento]

 

Bob, could you post a picture of the unfortunate crow?

If anything it'll be a turkey vulture we have an abundance down here in South Florida, plunked one a month ago that broke my front fender clips and headlight.

 

And after just watching the first five innings of the GCL game, I can see why Lewis is still in GCL.  He made a throwing error on one batter and then the next batter hit a tailormade double play to Royce and it went right under his glove and between his legs.  The ball then continued to centerfield where the CF Arias overthrow the Catcher Kidany Salva.  As Salva went to retrieve the ball at the backstop, no one was covering home and another run scored.  Just a comedy of errors in the inning, five all together for the top of the fourth.

 

 

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

If anything it'll be a turkey vulture we have an abundance down here in South Florida, plunked one a month ago that broke my front fender clips and headlight.

 

And after just watching the first five innings of the GCL game, I can see why Lewis is still in GCL.  He made a throwing error on one batter and then the next batter hit a tailormade double play to Royce and it went right under his glove and between his legs.  The ball then continued to centerfield where the CF Arias overthrow the Catcher Kidany Salva.  As Salva went to retrieve the ball at the backstop, no one was covering home and another run scored.  Just a comedy of errors in the inning, five all together for the top of the fourth.

 

wow, this looks like a play I've seen on one or two softball teams.

[nicksaviking]

I'll bet Lewis would be really good at softball too.

 

Probably not as good as Rooker though.

[Mike Sixel]

If anything it'll be a turkey vulture we have an abundance down here in South Florida, plunked one a month ago that broke my front fender clips and headlight.

 

And after just watching the first five innings of the GCL game, I can see why Lewis is still in GCL. He made a throwing error on one batter and then the next batter hit a tailormade double play to Royce and it went right under his glove and between his legs. The ball then continued to centerfield where the CF Arias overthrow the Catcher Kidany Salva. As Salva went to retrieve the ball at the backstop, no one was covering home and another run scored. Just a comedy of errors in the inning, five all together for the top of the fourth.

Just move him to center already. Use his speed as a real advantage. The real question is when is Rooker promoted. It's sad he isn't in at least A ball.

[Mr. Brooks]

Lewis is going to play CF if he makes the majors, I don't understand why you wouldn't just put him there now.

Why waste time developing at a position he won't play?

I wonder if they made him a half hearted promise they'd let him try to stick at short?

 

I do not work with the Pohlads or the FO. The above is my opinion only and not meant to be taken as factual.

[drjim]

That is some strong opinionating off of reading a handful of scouting reports and a few rookie league games.

 

No real advantage to move Lewis off SS until it is really obvious he needs to go.

[70charger]

 

That is some strong opinionating off of reading a handful of scouting reports and a few rookie league games.

No real advantage to move Lewis off SS until it is really obvious he needs to go.

 

On the other hand, if the scouts think it's inevitable anyway, isn't it best to get him acclimated to the outfield as soon as possible?

 

(This is assuming the truth of the condition, which I don't know.)

[maxisagod]

 

Lewis is going to play CF if he makes the majors, I don't understand why you wouldn't just put him there now.
Why waste time developing at a position he won't play?

 

The two biggest reasons are 1, trade value. 2, If he can stick you have Derek Jeter. People don't move on to SS they move off of it. The longer you keep him on it, the longer you keep the dream alive. This all might be moot though. If he starts at A ball next year, he have to split time with Wander Javier and Jose Miranda, so I'd guess he get time in the OF anyway. 

[Mike Sixel]

The two biggest reasons are 1, trade value. 2, If he can stick you have Derek Jeter. People don't move on to SS they move off of it. The longer you keep him on it, the longer you keep the dream alive. This all might be moot though. If he starts at A ball next year, he have to split time with Wander Javier and Jose Miranda, so I'd guess he get time in the OF anyway.

Uh. Jeter? Jeter was one of the fastest players in the league, with great range? Uh? No. Are you suggesting SS has greater trade value than CF?

[maxisagod]

 

Uh. Jeter? Jeter was one of the fastest players in the league, with great range? Uh? No. Are you suggesting SS has greater trade value than CF?

 

I am suggesting that, yes. Not to say other up the middle positions doesn't have value, but CF is 2nd to me to SS in the majors. Jeter's offensive would be a celling for Lewis, but I'm open to other comps. 

[Mr. Brooks]

That is some strong opinionating off of reading a handful of scouting reports and a few rookie league games.

 

No real advantage to move Lewis off SS until it is really obvious he needs to go.

Wouldn't the advantage be that he gets development time at the position he's actually going to play?

Seems like that must have at least a small amount of advantage.

 

 

I do not work with the Pohlads or the FO. The above is my opinion only and not meant to be taken as factual.

[Mr. Brooks]

I am suggesting that, yes. Not to say other up the middle positions doesn't have value, but CF is 2nd to me to SS in the majors. Jeter's offensive would be a celling for Lewis, but I'm open to other comps.

Jeter is not a good comp for Lewis, defensively they are night and day in makeup.

[nicksaviking]

On the other hand, if the scouts think it's inevitable anyway, isn't it best to get him acclimated to the outfield as soon as possible?

 

(This is assuming the truth of the condition, which I don't know.)

Which scouts are we talking about? The Twins scouts or the guys who work for various publications?

 

Because I sure hope no one's fate is sealed based on some HS scouting reports.

[drjim]

Wouldn't the advantage be that he gets development time at the position he's actually going to play?

Seems like that must have at least a small amount of advantage.

 

 

I do not work with the Pohlads or the FO. The above is my opinion only and not meant to be taken as factual.

He won't need 4 years of CF. And any slight benefit he might get from an extra year or two there is washed out by the benefit of playing every game in middle of the diamond.

 

A SS is much more valuable than a CF. Both are very valuable.

[drjim]

Which scouts are we talking about? The Twins scouts or the guys who work for various publications?

 

Because I sure hope no one's fate is sealed based on some HS scouting reports.

If the Twins were convinced he'd already be in CF.

[Bob Sacamento]

 

Which scouts are we talking about? The Twins scouts or the guys who work for various publications?

Because I sure hope no one's fate is sealed based on some HS scouting reports.

Nick, I've been told several times by Twins' players, Twins' FO/scouts, and other team's scouts that his future is in centerfield.  So it's not just some HS scouting reports, also if you watch I do have some video of Lewis fielding grounders at SS.  But I'm telling you as someone who has seen him play a dozen times already, he is not a SS in the higher levels.  In my opinion, if you want a Twins in house list of players abilities playing SS it's Engelb Vielma,  Nick Gordon, Ricky de la Torre, Wander Javier, Jose Miranda, Jermaine Palacios, and then Royce Lewis in that order.

[Mike Sixel]

Nick, I've been told several times by Twins' players, Twins' FO/scouts, and other team's scouts that his future is in centerfield. So it's not just some HS scouting reports, also if you watch I do have some video of Lewis fielding grounders at SS. But I'm telling you as someone who has seen him play a dozen times already, he is not a SS in the higher levels. In my opinion, if you want a Twins in house list of players abilities playing SS it's Engelb Vielma, Nick Gordon, Ricky de la Torre, Wander Javier, Jose Miranda, Jermaine Palacios, and then Royce Lewis in that order.

Then move him.

[Mr. Brooks]

He won't need 4 years of CF. And any slight benefit he might get from an extra year or two there is washed out by the benefit of playing every game in middle of the diamond.

 

A SS is much more valuable than a CF. Both are very valuable.

We'll have to agree to disagree that defensive development is only a "slight" benefit.

Defense is a part of the game too, and needs to be developed just like batting.

I don't believe that playing SS has some carry over to CF. Once he moves he'll be starting over from scratch.

I'd rather just do it right away.

 

The one argument I could buy would be that they want him to focus on hitting professionally for now, without distraction of learning a be new position.

Not how I'd do it, but could buy it.

 

 

I do not work with the Pohlads or the FO. The above is my opinion only and not meant to be taken as factual.

[70charger]

 

Which scouts are we talking about? The Twins scouts or the guys who work for various publications?

Because I sure hope no one's fate is sealed based on some HS scouting reports.

 

Yeah, it's gotta be too early. 

 

Besides, even if he has to move off in a year or so, he'll still have at least a couple years in the minors where he can learn the outfield.

 

Keep him around SS for long enough for internal scouts to get a real idea of his chops there.