2017 NFL Draft Chat

[TheLeviathan]

I'd still love to take Leggett or Butt to convince the team to replace Rudolph.

 

Some solid Gs and Ts still out there, though I liked Dorian Johnson a lot.  Sad he got sniped.

[Vanimal46]

Sure would be nice to address OL... Not like it's a glaring need or anything.

[TheLeviathan]

Not real happy about that last trade down. Too many talents available to give it for two late 5ths.

[bluechipper]

Bucky Hodges seems like a good value pick as a pass catching TE here in the 6th round.

[TheLeviathan]

Yeah, I dig the Hodges pick.  It probably flames out, but if it doesn't you've got really huge upside.

[TheLeviathan]

Fuller or Orlovsky in the last round might be nice to snag.

[nicksaviking]

Fuller or Orlovsky in the last round might be nice to snag.

Orlovsky or Jon Toth as a free agent perhaps.

 

I've really grown tired of Spielman's continuing trade downs for 7th round picks. These picks aren't nearly as meaningful as he seems to think.

[TheLeviathan]

 

Orlovsky or Jon Toth as a free agent perhaps.

I've really grown tired of Spielman's continuing trade downs for 7th round picks. These picks aren't nearly as meaningful as he seems to think.

 

If some of these deals had dealt better returns than I'm good with it, but yeah, constantly adding an extra 7 does nothing for me.

 

Move a 4 this year for a 4 next year and a 5?  Sure.  For two fives or a five and a 7?  No, no thanks.

[DaveW]

Hodges was a great pick, boom or bust, but who cares, it's a 6th rounder.

[Mike Sixel]

Pretty indifferent on the late picks, other than they need a kicker and punter,imo. Really liked the center and DT, and the Bradford trade a lot. Would not have traded up for a RB, really wanted a trade up for Lamp, but it didn't happen.

[kab21]

I still consider the Bradford trade to be an overpay. The Eagles didn't want him at all but the Vikings need drove them to accept the offer. The Vikings lucked into getting a 1st rd talent in the 2nd rd so the damage was minimized.

 

I liked the first two picks but was a little concerned about not having enough 3rd-5th picks to fill holes. The first two trade downs were great but the final trade downs amassing 7th's were pointless and kind of negated the extra value they picked up with the initial trading down. Those holes won't be filled with 7th rounders.

 

B+ draft - A lot of early talent that can contribute and then several ???? picks/trades to end the draft.

Looks like an 8-8 team at best unless they overperform and get some lucky breaks. And they are a Bradford injury away from being a 4 or 5 win team. Meh

[TheLeviathan]

I can't fault them for overpaying for Bradford.  They thought they were a contender and they played that way until the OL got decimated.

 

Plus, how can you do anything to fix your QB spot a week before the season when you get a freak injury like Teddy's?  The team was in a no-win situation there brought on by nothing more than catastrophically bad luck.

[kab21]

 

I can't fault them for overpaying for Bradford.  They thought they were a contender and they played that way until the OL got decimated.

 

Plus, how can you do anything to fix your QB spot a week before the season when you get a freak injury like Teddy's?  The team was in a no-win situation there brought on by nothing more than catastrophically bad luck.

At the time the Eagles were eager to dump him. The Vikings really needed a QB and the Eagles knew it but the Vikings bid against themselves.

[TheLeviathan]

 

At the time the Eagles were eager to dump him. The Vikings really needed a QB and the Eagles knew it but the Vikings bid against themselves.

 

I'm not sure I'd characterize them as "eager".  They didn't have to deal him, a viable starting QB always has value.  They caught good fortune in what happened to the Vikings.

 

The Vikings were always going to be bidding against themselves.  There was no way around that unless they wanted to literally give up on the season before it started.  Because Shaun Hill - NFL Starting QB - was exactly that.  Giving up.  

 

And if they had picked up the phone and tried another team, they weren't going to find any more sympathy.  The Vikings gigantic stroke of bad luck put them in a no win situation and everyone knew it.  

[Mike Sixel]

They paid less for a good, not great, NFL ready QB, than teams paid for guys that most feel are less than good, and not ready.

 

They were/are built to win now.

 

What, exactly, was an overpay?

[Vanimal46]

Yeah, I don't agree that it was an overpay for Bradford. It would have been a disaster relying on Shaun Hill starting 16 games last year. Your opinion may vary about how good Bradford is. At the very least, he's a proven starter, and the Vikings felt they were a playoff contending team. 

As Mike pointed out, teams over pay for QB's during the draft every year.. Comparing the Bradford trade to the Bears trade up to get Trubisky, for example, looks like a steal. 

[DaveW]

It was a disaster starting Bradford for 15 games last year. He was terrible.

Should have traded for Glennon. Or should have drafted Dak in the 3rd round like I wanted them/was very vocal about doing.

Oh well, Dave is right, the stupid Vikings are wrong. Such goes life.

[Mike Sixel]

 

It was a disaster starting Bradford for 15 games last year. He was terrible.

Should have traded for Glennon. Or should have drafted Dak in the 3rd round like I wanted them/was very vocal about doing.

Oh well, Dave is right, the stupid Vikings are wrong. Such goes life.

 

We agree on a lot. Not this.

 

And no one thought Dak would be that good. If they had, he'd have gone 1:1.