stringer bell Verified Member Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 That didn't last long. The Padres designated ex-Twin Josmil Pinto for assignment today. Where will he wind up? Should the Twins be interested in him? I wonder if the Pads are trying to sneak him through now while most teams have full rosters so that they can outright him to AAA. He was claimed before he was outrighted by the Twins, so San Diego can outright him, I believe.
dgwills Provisional Member Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 I really hate this practice in baseball. At least they're doing it during the offseason in this situation.
sane09 Provisional Member Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 That didn't last long. The Padres designated ex-Twin Josmil Pinto for assignment today. Where will he wind up? Should the Twins be interested in him? I wonder if the Pads are trying to sneak him through now while most teams have full rosters so that they can outright him to AAA. He was claimed before he was outrighted by the Twins, so San Diego can outright him, I believe.Rumor has it that Pinto answered the phone when he was in the Padres GM's office, but it wasn't ringing.I know concussions are no joke, and I seriously wish Pinto the best, but I needed to lighten the mood.
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Yeah, that's not funny. My guess is that he goes unclaimed. I would assume he would elect free agency, at this point, rather than accept the outright assignment.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Yeah, that's not funny. My guess is that he goes unclaimed. I would assume he would elect free agency, at this point, rather than accept the outright assignment.Pinto has never been outrighted before, so he can't refuse it.
stringer bell Verified Member Posted December 22, 2015 Author Posted December 22, 2015 Pinto has never been outrighted before, so he can't refuse it.That's the way I understand it, as well.
Eris Verified Member Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 The above posters have it correct. Players can only opt for free agency the 2nd time they are outrighted (unless they have 3 years of MLB experience or are a super 2) The CBA: http://mlb.mlb.com/pa/pdf/cba_english.pdf See section XX-D on page 92 of the above pdf. The relevant part is copied below in (2). D. Outright Assignment to Minor League club(1) Election of Free Agency—3-Year PlayerAny Player who has at least 3 years of Major League service, orwho qualified as a “Super Two” Player under Article VI(E)(1) asof the conclusion of the prior championship season, and whose contractis assigned outright to a Minor League club may elect, in lieu ofaccepting such assignment, to become a free agent. In the event thatsuch a Player with at least 3 years of Major League service does notelect free agency in lieu of accepting such assignment, he may electfree agency between the end of the then current Major League seasonand the next following October 15, unless such Player is returnedto a Major League roster prior to making such election. Any Playerwho accepts an outright assignment as a “Super Two” Player will notretain a right to elect free agency following the season.(2) Election of Free Agency—Second Outright AssignmentAny Player whose contract is assigned outright to a MinorLeague club for the second time or any subsequent time in his careermay elect, in lieu of accepting such assignment, to become a freeagent. In the event that such Player does not elect free agency in lieuof accepting such assignment, he may elect free agency between theend of the then current Major League season and the next followingOctober 15, unless such Player is returned to a Major League rosterprior to making such election.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 Sucks for Pinto. Doesn't sound like the Padres are treating him in good faith considering he was an early selection in waivers. San Diego is set at catcher and I'm sure he'd rather be anywhere else to get a shot to play in the majors.
Rosterman Verified Member Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 A.J. Achter was also waived off the Phillies roster but was claimed by the Angels who had a 40-man spot. At this point, I would accept the minor league assignment if I was Pinto as a potential job is still a job.
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