Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/258770381.html Phil Miller, in his Sunday Twins article wrote about how the new replay rules have kept Twins manager Ron Gardenhire in the dugout. Of course, the irony is that this afternoon, Ron Gardenhire was just ejected for the 68th time in his managerial career.
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 True, although since it was Joe West and not a real umpire, Gardy should get a mulligan.
ScottyB Verified Member Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 True, although since it was Joe West and not a real umpire, Gardy should get a mulligan. Joe West is the biggest horses' pitute (or is it pitoot) in all of baseball. I knew he couldn't make it through a series without drawing attention to himself.
Highabove Provisional Member Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 They say in the Music business "don't quit your day job." http://www.cowboyjoewest.com/blue_cowboy_sm.jpg Blue Cowboy
ashbury Verified Member Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Joe West is the biggest horses' pitute (or is it pitoot) http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=patootie
matthew0211 Verified Member Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Gardy had nothing to argue on that play. Not a thing. He went out there specifically to get tossed. The new rules have taken getting ejection out of his pocket as a tool to "motivate" his players - which is a silly managerial tactic anyway. Today, when he saw his opening, he took it. That the Twins came back and won today after the ejection was a coincidence and nothing more. Between his ridiculous need for three catchers, his 13-man pitching staff (and even wanting 14 pitchers for one game), his mismanagement of the bullpen, and now this stunt today, he's lost me.
Joe A. Preusser Verified Member Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Gardy had nothing to argue on that play. Not a thing. He went out there specifically to get tossed. The new rules have taken getting ejection out of his pocket as a tool to "motivate" his players - which is a silly managerial tactic anyway. Today, when he saw his opening, he took it. That the Twins came back and won today after the ejection was a coincidence and nothing more. Between his ridiculous need for three catchers, his 13-man pitching staff (and even wanting 14 pitchers for one game), his mismanagement of the bullpen, and now this stunt today, he's lost me. Which game did you watch? The runner was clearly trying to screen the fielder when he got hit. That means the ump should have awarded the Twins a double play. I would have argued too, they got the call wrong.
ScottyB Verified Member Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=patootie Thanks for that!
Beezer07 Provisional Member Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Gardy had nothing to argue on that play. Not a thing. He went out there specifically to get tossed. The new rules have taken getting ejection out of his pocket as a tool to "motivate" his players - which is a silly managerial tactic anyway. Today, when he saw his opening, he took it. That the Twins came back and won today after the ejection was a coincidence and nothing more. Between his ridiculous need for three catchers, his 13-man pitching staff (and even wanting 14 pitchers for one game), his mismanagement of the bullpen, and now this stunt today, he's lost me. It seemed like you were reading way too much into his ejection today, then I read your last paragraph. Now I know you were reading way too much into it, as you seem to be looking for more excuses why he should be fired.
Guest USAFChief Guests Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Which game did you watch? The runner was clearly trying to screen the fielder when he got hit. That means the ump should have awarded the Twins a double play. I would have argued too, they got the call wrong.I dont think the rules allow for awarding a DP, do they? An ump can only rule one out per ball in play as far as I know. For example, an ump can award the out at first to complete a DP after the force at second, but to my knowledge can't award an out at both second and first. I could be wrong...any umps here?
big dog Verified Member Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 I dont think the rules allow for awarding a DP, do they? An ump can only rule one out per ball in play as far as I know. For example, an ump can award the out at first to complete a DP after the force at second, but to my knowledge can't award an out at both second and first. I could be wrong...any umps here? Here's something on the web, which must have at least a 5% chance of being accurate, saying that this situation is one of several that give the umpire some discretion: 34. Whether a runner intentionally interfered with either a batted ball, or a ball in play being thrown by a fielder, to thwart a double play. If yes, the umpire will call out both the runner and the batter-runner on this violation. http://www.baseballfieldguide.com/BFG_Judgement.html
blairpaul715 Verified Member Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Which game did you watch? The runner was clearly trying to screen the fielder when he got hit. That means the ump should have awarded the Twins a double play. I would have argued too, they got the call wrong. Did he screen the shortstop maybe so, but it wasn't so blatant that it should be called a DP.........its not like the guy was standing there to get hit, he was moving toward 3rd base..........I think they got the call right.
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