Game 23 - Twins @ Angels - 05/01/12

[twinsnorth49]

Nice escape!!!! It may not be pretty but that's not Psycho Frankie...averaging 1K/inning

[Alex]

Just saw this from Joe Christensen via twitter, about as sardonic as I've seen him: #Twins offense flailing away against Jerome Williams in an attempt to take Liriano out of the headlines. #Angels lead 4-0 (bot 5th).

 

 

[twinsnorth49]

Clete Thomas has struck out 12 times in his last 8 at bats.

[deanlambrecht]

I dunno. 5.1 IP, 7 hits, 3 BB, 4 ER, leaves the game with a runner on base after 91 pitches. Sounds like he got lit up to me.

 

Tough to stay positive. I'd already resigned myself to a bad year before the season started, just hoping to recover some ground and that the team would realize they need to rebuild. I was looking forward to watching some players develop and had my fingers crossed for M & M. Carroll's been fun to watch - I was one of the few fans of that move and he's delivered exactly as promised. I like that Ryan grabbed some offensive show to keep butts in seats, but this team's starting pitching is almost indescribably terrible. I didn't expect much from Liriano, but he's a complete joke, and he was the hope of the rotation.

 

In the words of The Dude, "that's a bummer, man."

[glunn]

This game is worse than last night's. And tomorrow I have tickets to see Weaver shut us out. I am praying for rain.

[striker_86]

At least KC has already lost.

lol, at this rate though, how long can we hang with them!

[Seth Stohs]

Roy Smalley is a JOKE! Even Dick Bremer and Seth Stohs can't compete with his homerism!

buh-dump-bump!!

[twinsnorth49]

That Howie Kendrick has been one busy dude.

[glunn]

Twelve in a row retired by (hack) pitcher Jerome Williams. Only Span has looked decent at the plate tonight.

[glunn]

That Howie Kendrick has been one busy dude.

And he does not even have to move very much.

[Guest USAFChief]

Clete Thomas has struck out 12 times in his last 8 at bats.

Well played.

 

(And...that's a better record than Bill Smith!)

[asmus_ndsu]

I cant really watch the game, just gameday... And does jerome williams have the best sinker in existence or what? It looks like nothing is even making it out of the infield, or in the air for that matter

[glunn]

I cant really watch the game, just gameday... And does jerome williams have the best sinker in existence or what? It looks like nothing is even making it out of the infield, or in the air for that matter

No, his slider looks very hittable. The problem is that our hitters are not having quality at bats. It feels like they gave up after the first inning.

[twinsnorth49]

I swear to god Howie Kendrick has made every out.

[glunn]

I swear to god Howie Kendrick has made every out.

It sure feels that way. And Mauer has been his best customer -- three easy rollers to second.

[glunn]

At least Liriano reduced his ERA below 10 -- he is now at 9.97

[glunn]

Kendrick at bat -- needs a double to make the cycle.

[glunn]

Two Twins strike out looking to open the 9th. Someone at least take a swing, please!

[Alex]

I cant really watch the game, just gameday... And does jerome williams have the best sinker in existence or what? It looks like nothing is even making it out of the infield, or in the air for that matter

Phil Mackey tweeted that his sinker's downward movement this season has been comparable to Carmona and close to Tim Hudson, so whatever he's been doing has made it darn tough to hit.

[twinsnorth49]

Jerome Williams does that pitch to contact crap pretty well.

[Ultima Ratio]

When we hit like this I think to myself, "are we this bad or is the pitcher really this good?" In the final analysis, we make pitchers much better than they are, and too often.

[Land Of 10,000 Beasts]

Yep, this is the most pathetic game I have watched so far. Why Twins why.

[Thrylos]

Just a reminder for the hell of it: Jerome Williams was a Twin (briefly) in 2007. He signed and played for Rochester. The powers of being did not think he was good enough. Gotta love the Twins' braintrust

[Ultima Ratio]

Just a reminder for the hell of it: Jerome Williams was a Twin (briefly) in 2007. He signed and played for Rochester. The powers of being did not think he was good enough. Gotta love the Twins' braintrust

Can't decide if I'm outraged or don't care at this point. I'm authentically mad that I don't care about the Twins (as much.... not not at all) this year. But I'm trying to keep my chips in the pot.

[glunn]

And tomorrow Weaver will be pitching. I wonder what odds Vegas would give against Weaver pitching a shutout tomorrow?

[twinsnorth49]

Just a reminder for the hell of it: Jerome Williams was a Twin (briefly) in 2007. He signed and played for Rochester. The powers of being did not think he was good enough. Gotta love the Twins' braintrust

That's a big WHATEVER! You mean just after he developed rotator cuff issues and lit up double A ball with an ERA over 9? He's done nothing since, until last year when he notched a few wins. He pitched a good game tonight, we helped, he wasn't exactly a can't miss prospect back in '07, except on your list I assume. If he played for the Twins now, everyone would be cutting him up about being another Terry Ryan pitch to contact droid.

[Guest USAFChief]

Just a reminder for the hell of it: Jerome Williams was a Twin (briefly) in 2007. He signed and played for Rochester. The powers of being did not think he was good enough. Gotta love the Twins' braintrust

He wasn't really good enough. He was forced to start 2008 in independant ball. He didn't pitch a major league inning between 2008-2010. He's 30 yrs old. He came into tonight with an ERA over 5 and a WHIP of 1.47.

 

Just because someone pitches a good game, doesn't make them an all star. Liriano tossed a no hitter.

 

This had more to do with the Twins lineup than the Angels starter.

[Top Gun]

Jerome Williams pitched a three-hitter Tuesday in a 4-0 win over the Twins.

 

Williams faced just 29 batters in his second career shutout and first complete game since July 7, 2003. His previous shutout came June 27, 2003 against the A's.

[ashbury]

Lineups:

 

Span - CF

Casilla -2b

Mauer - dh

Willingham - lf

Valencia - 3b

Doumit - C

Parmelee - 1B

Thomas - RF

Carroll - SS

 

Let's see, here is the Opening Day lineup, about which some of us were enthused as being above-average:

 

1. Denard Span, CF

2. Jamey Carroll, SS

3. Joe Mauer, C

4. Justin Morneau, DH

5. Josh Willingham, LF

6. Ryan Doumit, RF

7. Danny Valencia, 3B

8. Chris Parmelee, 1B

9. Alexi Casilla, 2B

 

What's the difference between these two (forgetting defense)? Morneau out, Clete in. Is that all it takes to become a shutout victim to a very ordinary pitcher? Morneau for MVP, so far!