PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 The need for a new manager has never been about on-field decisions for me. It's about needing a fresh breeze blowing through that clubhouse. (in much the same way that I can' stand listening to Dick-Bert. Dick, Bert, Gardy -- they are all just so stale.)I don't disagree--the same evidence, however, could be used to suggest how consistent the culture is, that they do well (battle their tales off etc.) even in Gardy's absence. Those who are looking for a fundamental shake up in the Twins culture, probably won't ever get it. Even if Gardy retires, much of the old regime, and the Twins way, will remain.
BigTrane Provisional Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 6 runs and none of them earned.... Yeah, but how many times did that not happen in '13?
big dog Verified Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 What was that, about 8 pitches? Who is this Nolasco character?
Craig Arko Old-Timey Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Who's this Nolasco guy? We should sign him. Ninja'd
BigTrane Provisional Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Think Joe is trying to get Jake a promotion? Interesting thought.. My pecking order is:MollyTerryDougieJake
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 So you're saying Anderson gets credit? I think he'll be happy to take the kudos for yesterday and today (so far).
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 I don't disagree--the same evidence, however, could be used to suggest how consistent the culture is, that they do well (battle their tales off etc.) even in Gardy's absence. Those who are looking for a fundamental shake up in the Twins culture, probably won't ever get it. Even if Gardy retires, much of the old regime, and the Twins way, will remain.This. Saying we need a new manager and everything will be fresh is just so cliche and an easy go to. If you want change, it needs to be a change of the organizational culture, starting at the top. Also, who you go out and get and put on the field makes a huge difference, too.
big dog Verified Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Interesting thought.. My pecking order is:MollyTerryDougieJake I believe you meant "Jakey"?
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Do you have MLB.tv?Please listen to Cards broadcasts, Bucs, Barves... horrible.Cards should have the best, yet they get the dreck. Shop around MLB a bit, and I think you'll appreciate Dick and Bert a bit more. I don't have mlb tv. But I live in Iowa and get the broadcasts for the Cubs, White Sox, Royals, Twins, Brewers and Cardinals (plus others from time to time on MLB TV). Bremer simply talks far too much. But most of all, we've seen and heard Dick-Bert for so d*mn many years, there just isn't anything new any more. I LOVED the Provus-Gladden broadcasts in ST but synching the TV and radio is difficult.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Geez, why didn't he hit another home run? It's what I pay to see, dammit!
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 I don't have mlb tv. But I live in Iowa and get the broadcasts for the Cubs, White Sox, Royals, Twins, Brewers and Cardinals (plus others from time to time on MLB TV). Bremer simply talks far too much. But most of all, we've seen and heard Dick-Bert for so d*mn many years, there just isn't anything new any more. I LOVED the Provus-Gladden broadcasts in ST but synching the TV and radio is difficult.I've had to listen to Hawk for as long as I've lived in Chicago. Simply ugh. I'd rather have Bert. Guess it all boils down to personal taste.
BigTrane Provisional Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 I believe you meant "Jakey"? Oh, crap, you're right! Forgot to Gargy-ize it.OTOH, if Jake is manning the ship, there will be no place for humor.Levity? That's a paddlin'.
JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 This. Saying we need a new manager and everything will be fresh is just so cliche and an easy go to. If you want change, it needs to be a change of the organizational culture, starting at the top. Also, who you go out and get and put on the field makes a huge difference, too. Well, I've been on record as wanting an organizational shake-up, too. But since that isn't going to happen, I'll be happy to start with a new manager and pitching coach. And, as I've made clear repeatedly, it isn't that I think Gardenhire couldn't be a good manager elsewhere. He has simply "stayed too long at the fair" in Minnesota. But I really don't want to be such a downer when the Twins are actually winning -- and beating James Shields handily (so far). We'll all see what happens the rest of the season.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 I don't disagree--the same evidence, however, could be used to suggest how consistent the culture is, that they do well (battle their tales off etc.) even in Gardy's absence. As good a story teller as Gardy is, he'll never be a Darkstar, Garrison Keeler or F Scott Fitzgerald where it comes to battling their tales off.
BigTrane Provisional Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 I've had to listen to Hawk for as long as I've lived in Chicago. Simply ugh. I'd rather have Bert. Guess it all boils down to personal taste. Hawk.. my heart goes out to you.Tip: watch on TV, turn the sound off, follow online, and tune to 'BEZ instead.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Hawk.. my heart goes out to you.Tip: watch on TV, turn the sound off, follow online, and tune to 'BEZ instead.Yeah, that's what I do, pretty much. Some days he's okay, and the melt downs can be entertaining, but over all? Meh. Not my cup o' tea.
Don't Feed the Greed Guy Verified Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Colobello might need a day off He looked like he was milking a cow, all hunched over the ball in the rightfield corner.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 I'm not a huge Flori fan but that was a nice play.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Interesting thought.. My pecking order is:MollyTerryDougieJake If Gardy goes I'd like Dougie as next manager.
big dog Verified Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Yeah, that's what I do, pretty much. Some days he's okay, and the melt downs can be entertaining, but over all? Meh. Not my cup o' tea. I am in the Chicago market and I watch the Twins/Sox with the sound off. Then if the Sox have an error or give up a homer, I rewind the DVR and listen to the sound on so I can hear Hawk moan. When Thome won that game a couple of years ago for us, I must have listened to Hawk say "Dadgummit" 5 times. Really, really nice fielding plays from Florimon and Dozier in this inning!
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Okay Ricky, let's close it out now.
BigTrane Provisional Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 I don't have mlb tv. But I live in Iowa and get the broadcasts for the Cubs, White Sox, Royals, Twins, Brewers and Cardinals (plus others from time to time on MLB TV). Bremer simply talks far too much. But most of all, we've seen and heard Dick-Bert for so d*mn many years, there just isn't anything new any more. I LOVED the Provus-Gladden broadcasts in ST but synching the TV and radio is difficult. I'm in Hong Kong right now, TV feed from MLB.tv is always dropping out, so I've got Dazzle and Provus on instead. I think Jon Miller w/SF and Scully w/LA are the best going. Not sure how MLV.tv works for those in Iowa (know you're in a hole w/TV) but, if you get it, one of the best things is that you can listen to both feeds for any game. Love listening to how the other side sizes up the Twins...
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 I am in the Chicago market and I watch the Twins/Sox with the sound off. Then if the Sox have an error or give up a homer, I rewind the DVR and listen to the sound on so I can hear Hawk moan. When Thome won that game a couple of years ago for us, I must have listened to Hawk say "Dadgummit" 5 times. Really, really nice fielding plays from Florimon and Dozier in this inning!Hahaha, yeah. That's when Hawk us priceless.
Reider Verified Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 And Florimon cleans up Plouffe's mess, effortlessly.
BigTrane Provisional Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 Yeah, that's what I do, pretty much. Some days he's okay, and the melt downs can be entertaining, but over all? Meh. Not my cup o' tea. You made my beer go through my nose!
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 And Florimon cleans up Plouffe's mess, effortlessly. His defense more than makes up for his .241 OPS?
Tibs Verified Member Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 His defense more than makes up for his .241 OPS? Clearly
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 12, 2014 Posted April 12, 2014 You made my beer go through my nose!Glad I could be of service
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