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  1. I don't think Recker was on the Braves 40. They previously DFA'd him. He shouldn't need to be on the Twins. Baseball reference says his salary is 800,000. He seems to be a non-factor. If Ynoa turns out to be Hu in 2017, it seems like a good deal. Hu is a AAA reliever this year with mediocre results. He has used at least two options. Ynoa could easily run out of options before he has established himself in the majors. It seems like Braves could have asked for more. Maybe the Twins did take on most of the money. edit- Recker is listed on 40. Maybe the Braves added him back after the DFA earlier in the season. edit- He was DFA'd in May and last played in majors in April http://www.ajc.com/sports/baseball/recker-dfa-braves-camargo-optioned-triple/t1Q6936m1e0iX8BYPqq26O/ Is the 40 listing correct?
  2. Recker and Gimenez crossed paths with the Indians last year. Last May the Indians had Recker in AAA and were in need of a catcher for the major league roster with the injury to Perez. Instead of calling up Recker, they reacquired Gimenez from the Rangers on May 4. On May 9 Recker was sent to the Braves for cash. From "Let's Go Tribe"
  3. The Braves are certainly looking for upside. Ynoa is a long way from the majors. This is his third season and he has a few starts in a shaky Elizabethton season. He will need to be put on the 40 man roster or be exposed to rule 5 after 2 more seasons. It is hard to imagine that he will have much experience above A-Ball by that time. Adding a catcher in AAA clears a spot for Garver to be a third catcher/bench bat. They need someone that can hit a lefty and he may have more value to the bench than Granite once Buxton returns. I don't know how they find a roster sport for either without going to 12 pitchers though. I suppose the other possibility is the Twins are in talks about moving Murphy or Garvin for a reliever.
  4. An option would not need to be used. If they don't find a better solution, call him up August 1. Stick with him through August. If they don't send him back, no option will be used. Service time starts but he is already 23.
  5. As I said, I wonder what the Twins think about Garver's defense. His bat isn't keeping him in AAA.
  6. I wonder how the Twins assess Garver's defense. Is he close to Murphy? If a major league catcher were to go down, I think they would call up the better defensive catcher. There is clear separation at the bat. I do wonder if the Twins see significant separation with the glove in Murphy's favor and whether he might be the next catcher in line. That call up will be very telling for how the organization sees Garver's future role.
  7. The data used takes a large sample to stabilize when it is a single pitcher. I don't see how to use ERA, slash stats and BABIP in splits with any value. Given their dependence on each other, are they saying anything different? There might be data that is useful. I wonder if first strike % is significantly different? How about 0-2 and 1-2 counts? What is called? What is the result? How might Castro sequence a pitcher differently than Gimenez? What do the varying strike zone maps look like? Do they vary by catcher for the same pitcher? Strike out rate and walk rate are among the first that stabilize. I don't know if in a split we will have enough data at full season. Once we control by a single pitcher the split sample gets pretty small. Those would be the only two that are easily available to us but it might take a few years of data. Any conclusion would be hindsight by that time.
  8. It will be interesting to see the return for Garcia. Thorpe's value is difficult to gauge. He hasn't pitched many innings this year and will be limited next year. I think he needs to be put on the 40 man roster this winter. He has thrown just over 40 innings since 2014. When might it be reasonable that he is ready? September 2019? That is if he stays healthy. By then two options will be used. The window where he needs to show success in the majors before he runs out of options could be very narrow. If I am the Braves, I think I would seek a better return with so many days left before the deadline.
  9. Makes you wonder who was in the deal. So many guys have medical issues but most are pitchers. Kohl Stewart? Lewis Thorpe?
  10. Garcia is healthy. He is pitching better than 2016. The demand for starters is greater. It will cost more to get him now. The Braves took a risk with Colon, Garcia and Dickey to the tune of 32.5 million and 3 marginal prospects. They will get a nice return for Garcia.
  11. Whatever the deal, the debate following should be deal or no deal. It shouldn't be the Twins should have forced the Braves to take a package of lesser prospects or take more money and a lesser prospect. Neither the Braves or the Twins are pressed for money. With the demand for starting pitching greater than the supply, the Braves are in a great position of setting the bar high and have no reason to lower that bar with so much time before the deadline.
  12. The Braves would be wise to demand a better prospect rather than demand the Twins (or any other team) pay the entirety of his salary. They are doing well at the gate this year. They can't be pressed against their budget. Since they can pay, they can seek the single best prospect offered. That is so much better for them than to take a package or a lesser prospect and dollars. If a team feels stretched at the prospect they can the offer to send back a lesser prospect or cash rather than lower the bar on the return. They have a lot of time between now and the deadline. Any deal they take now would have to exceed their expectations. Over the long term, the Twins will likely lose on this deal. It is part of doing business as a contender at the trade deadline. It is great to be a contender though. Whether it is Thorpe or Blankenhorn or Stewart or Garvin, it is going to hurt. The gamble is that the Twins go 7-6 as opposed to 5-8 in the 13 Garcia starts. Those two wins can offset that hurt.
  13. Is it possible that he was given a two start leash by the front office? It might be show something in two starts or be released or retire.
  14. The comps are close but they would need to do better than Thorpe to comp Luzardo. Thorpe's injury history is compounded by the need to make a 40 man roster decision. The Nats have a lot of time to work with Luzardo.
  15. It is hard to imagine Santana ever having more value than he will at this deadline.
  16. Either because he is not on the market or because the Twins can't match the market, Archer should not be considered as a trade target.
  17. The starting pitcher bar has been set very high. The Cubs must have contacted the Rays trying to get Archer with a similar package. They Rays must want more. They must have contacted the A's to try to get Gray without giving up Jimenez. Do the A's even take the Twins phone call if the starting point is Gordon? I am sure the Rays don't. If this sets the market for starting pitchers, I hope the Twins are listening on Santana and cautious about trying to acquire a starter.
  18. What would it have taken from the Twins system to beat that deal?
  19. Trading for Quintana probably means they will come up a little behind the Indians and Royals this year a little behind the White Sox in the future.
  20. This may be a better comp to the '84 team that made a run. They were 43-41 at the break. Key players were 23-25. They were not active in the trade market. They made two August deals that did no compromise the future. They sent a AAA pitcher, Jay Pettibone, in an August deal to try to fill an enormous void at SS in veteran Chris Speier. He didn't. They sent an A+ 2B prospect, Carson Carroll, to the Mariners for Pat Putnam to try to find someone that could give them offense from DH. He didn't. It would have been easy at the time to suggest they trade the empty bats of Puckett or Gaetti for a pitcher or bat that would make a difference down the stretch. Glad they didn't.
  21. Sam Fuld had a .379 OBP throughout three seasons in the minors at the time he hit the majors. It didn't translate well to the majors because it wasn't backed up by ISO. He even had an AZFL split of 402/492/696 in 126 PAs. How different in skills is Zach Granite from Sam Fuld?
  22. Kintzler is a free agent after this year. Dozier, Escobar and possibly Santana after next year. They might be sold. The remaining trade assets are under control for several years. I wouldn't trade Polanco unless the return has a similar number of years of team control. I think they are sellers but the only asset they must sell is Kintzler. The only other reasonable option with him is a one year extension. He is 32. For many relievers the shift from useful to liability is abrupt. The Twins needs to be on a one year commitment when that happens to Kintzler.
  23. The last administration traded athletic young outfielders before seeing them in their prime. Gomez after his 23 year old season and Hicks after his 25 year old season. They stuck with Span through age 28. Revere was 24. Need a center fielder? Don't develop them. Just wait until they struggle for a few years in Minnesota and then take them in for the prime of their careers. I hope this administration is committed to seeing their young and talented players through their struggles. Buxton, Kepler and Polanco showed enough in the minors very young for their leagues. In fact, they are all younger than Granite. They need tremendous patience as they develop in the majors. We couldn't even give Hicks 1000 plate appearances. Gomez just over 1000. I would want to see closer to 2000 plate appearances with this trio. The Twins need to buyers for their primes.
  24. He had a start on June 28. I assume he has been throwing. He can start on the 13th for Rochester and be ready for a start against the Yankees the 18th. I agree that they don't think much of the AAA pitching depth beyond their plan to have Berrios and Mejia as depth behind Santana, May, Gibson, Santiago and Hughes. It wasn't enough depth. Duffey is valuable in his relief role. Time to take a shot on Colon.
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