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  1. How far are we stretching the definition of pipeline? Smeltzer? Ryan spending a couple weeks in St. Paul? Failed starters turned relievers? It's been Ryan with a dash of Winder and a guest appearance from Ober (33 IP in 4 months because he's hurt...again) as far as young starting contributions go. All the higher end farm arms have been some combination of poor/injured. Yeah, I expected more when the FO decided to hinge this season on said pipeline.
  2. The acceptable, absolute minimum is probably 2 relief arms that slot above Jax and below Duran. If some want to argue a starter is a must as well I'm not going to fight it. I think we'll get one decent reliever and one reclamation project that'll be talked up. I'll be really surprised if any type of impact starter is acquired. Jeffers had a 4 game stretch with 7 hits in mid June and a nice series against TX where he put up 5 hits in 2 games. Between that it was more of what we watched all season. Basically, without those 2 Rangers games, he's still a guy struggling to stay above the Mendoza line with an OPS in danger of dipping below .600. Word seems to be out about his inability to control runners as well. Would I rather have him than Hamilton? Yes, but Jeffers is already at or near the bottom third of an awful cohort when it comes to production, so I think it's fair to question just how severe the loss is.
  3. What pitching prospects (I'm not counting Ryan) do the Twins have that you feel great about right now? I'm asking honestly. Balazovic is a mess, SWR regressed quickly after a nice start and he's hurt, and Canterino looks destined for a bullpen role after getting hurt again this year. Guys like Varland, Sands, ect are probably pen pieces. Something could break right there, but I wouldn't hold my breath. I doubt Oakland has much interest in Ober. He's been injury prone since his collegiate career began, he's thrown 33 innings this year, and his ceiling is back end rotation piece. He's likely worth more to MN than anyone else at this point. I'm not marking Montas as the guy, but the pitching outlook doesn't match a lot of the hype it has gotten. Those guys were supposed to be depth this year too, and most of them have been to injured/ineffective to be relied on a la last year. I wouldn't be too afraid to spend some of that currency on a rotation staple is what I'm saying.
  4. I think Sano's problems offensively are exactly what have plagued the Twins so far this season; a lack of situational hitting and streakiness. I just don't think the gamble that he'll come back up and start mashing is worth the roster crunch, and even if he does turn things around, we know there's likely another long stretch of subpar ABs on the way. In short, I'm over Sano. If I'm making the call I'm on the phone with any and every team that might need a DH or mediocre 1B hoping they're willing to send me a flier.
  5. It could be well into August or even September before we see Ober. Last I saw he was cleared for upper body workouts and hadn't even started throwing yet. He's going to have to get through a throwing program, and then multiple rehab starts. Availability was an issue with him, and here we are. He's going to throw 33 innings in 4-5 months. Winder is in AAA (would love to see that change) but the rest of the minor leagues arms have been some combo of hurt/bad. We can call it a pipeline, but what kind of flow are we getting?
  6. Maybe that was Rocco's attempt at a MN passive aggressive message to the FO about bullpen help....
  7. Do we get to see another position player take the mound or does any number of these expendable bullpen arms eat it and get booted following the game? Oh the intrigue....
  8. There's also an aftereffect that never seems to make it into these convos. Archer can certainly be effective for 3-4 innings, but if you're managing his exposure, and consistently asking 6+ IP from a bullpen that largely consists of guys who need to limited, in addition to a rotation that's also being minimized in terms of exposure, you can see how the snowball starts to form.
  9. I'm not sure 6 innings of a bullpen sans Duran was going to be much of an improvement; pick your poison I guess. He was cruising early but he certainly earned those 4 runs with that meltdown. He was honestly lucky that ball Moncada hit bounced out of play giving Duffey a shot at cutting the damage in half.
  10. Maybe we can finally put to bed the notion that it's the Twins holding Archer back when it comes to these short starts. This was the most stereotypical Archer start ever; cruise early, run out of gas quickly + lose command. The only difference between this start and earlier ones is the inherited runners crossed home plate. He's a valuable short work piece, but that isn't how he's being used.
  11. Does anybody know what's going on with this delay?
  12. "The pale hose will counter with Lance Lynn (1-2, 6.97 ERA) on the mound ready to be let down by a defensive lineup behind him that looks like this:" This line deserves more credit.
  13. What ship are they righting exactly? Their high water mark had them on pace for 100+ wins. That wasn't sustainable, even in their awful division. This team has warts, and I'm not excusing some of them, but I don't think we should be all that surprised they've hovered around .500 for the last 2 months.
  14. Guilty of the Ober post. Appreciate the separate thread.
  15. Do we have any recent news on Ober or some semi solid timeline for his return? His absence has kinda flown under the radar.
  16. Any actual news on that front?
  17. At least Dunning is just as terrible. Real war of attrition out there today...
  18. 30 HRs isn't something to turn your nose up at per se, but this offense doesn't really need another streaky hitter who strikes out a ton, has no defensive value, but hits the occasional HR. The juice probably isn't worth the squeeze in regard to the cost of seeing whether or not "good Sano," shows up, and how long that lasts, but I doubt that'll stop us from watching the soap opera unfold.
  19. I agree that Jeffers needs to pull his weight relative to this team, but if we're upgrading, and the C position is a wasteland offensively, where are you finding the upgrade, and does the hypothetical production boost justify the cost for said upgrade?
  20. He was terrible last year with a BB/9 half of what it is this year, but regression on that front is the solution? So just hope hitters stop pissing on his cutter, hope the fastball starts to play up, hope he start throwing the splitter for strikes consistently instead of burying it in the dirt? It's likely the Twins need to win the division to punch a postseason ticket. There's literally no reason they should continue to let Pagan actively damage their chance of doing so on the off chance his command suddenly returns and he goes from DFA candidate/negative asset to simply a bad relief option they can maybe hide. It's not even remotely worth it.
  21. 1. He's throwing hard, and subsequently allowing a HardHit% in line with his awful SD years. His velo isn't so high that he can overpower hitters a la Duran. His fastball has a 140 wRC+ and .348 wOBA; pretty pedestrian. 2. Yep, the splitter is a plus pitch, but it's his only one. As a relief arm you can certainly survive with that, but you have to be able to locate.... 3. What he did three years ago in TB is irrelevant, especially since he's been a disaster each year since leaving. This isn't even a case for improvement; it's some weird footnote. I'd argue that margin for error disappears when you're allowing baserunners at the rate Pagan is, and the ball continues to find its way over the fence. None of the three points address Pagan's inability to command the strike zone; it starts and stops there.
  22. I agree that he's young, and that could mostly be what's at play here. I think his lack of a plus secondary pitch is hurting him though. Opponents seem to be grinding out more ABs recently, and I doubt that's accidental. Houston kinda laid that blueprint earlier in the year.
  23. "But the reality is, even for a below-average reliever, once you remove the ugliest parts of a season, the rest tends to look okay." We're 2 years removed from the last time this guy was a reliable relief arm. Cherry picking spurts of acceptable performance and by your own admission, hoping for another "lucky," stretch doesn't address any of the actual issues going on with Pagan.
  24. I'm pleasantly surprised with the starting pitching, but the bolded is quietly becoming a concern. Injuries and ineffectiveness are going to happen, and there's half a season left, but Ryan can't be the only reliable young starter entering next year. The Sox are a total clown show, from the top down, and I don't know why anybody expects them to flip a switch and suddenly become something else. I wish they'd throw in the towel and essentially pave the way for the Twins to own the division for the next few years, but they're too stubborn to reset like that. Honestly, watching them squirm in baseball purgatory is probably more entertaining anyway.
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