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  1. Well yeah, your math keeps expanding. Now you're assigning major league value to comp picks and using "close enough," to close the WAR gap after I pointed out the inconsistency with Pablo.
  2. You literally just said WAR is the only effective way to measure these trades, and now you're going outside of it... My stance hasn't changed, but you're right, it's a losing position if you insist on moving the goalposts.
  3. Would you trade me a 6 WAR player for a group of players worth 2,2,2, and 1 WAR? You're getting the better deal by WAR right? The counting game ignores roster implications and the impact of the players involved. One season of MVP caliber performance is worth more than 5 seasons of 1.5 WAR even if the latter wins the battle in terms of WAR. A (at worst) solid, middle rotation SP is worth more than a fringe back end guy and a replacement level bench player. SWR might not last the year in the Twins rotation. I very much doubt that nearly every GM in the league, especially those who are actually trying to win games, would take him over Berrios. The AAV is irrelevant. The Twins refusing to pay Berrios doesn't provide them with a handicap. By your own system, the Lopez/Arraez trade was a net loss for the Twins. I disagree, but Idk why you're using Pablo as an example of finding the best player.
  4. Counting only WAR loses the plot when you're moving guys with limited control or swapping established players for prospects and vice versa. Did you get the better players and is the return moving the needle? The Mahle swap wasn't a disaster because Spencer Steer produced more WAR while being an overall meh 1B. It hurt because the Twins desperately needed a SP and Mahle immediately fell apart. Spencer Steer can rack up all the WAR he wants over whatever amount of time before FA, it doesn't matter. Ditto for the Berrios swap. SWR spent time in AAA last year, and Austin Martin is a fringe bench guy at best. Berrios has clearly been the best player in that swap. Maybe Martin gets enough playing time and SWR holds onto a rotation spot long enough to beat Berrios' WAR this season, it doesn't matter, the rotation took a hit and you've spent at least one, if not two, roster spots to downgrade. Idc about "losing," Brent Rooker or Noah MIller, but I do care about Pagan blowing games while the 2022 season tanked, and Margot being atrocious but still getting 400 PAs while 2024 season tanked.
  5. 2017: nothing of serious note 2018: Duran and Odo were good trades. Jake Cave for Luis Gil, the Pressly swap, and letting Dozier die on the vine were the opposite. 2019: nothing of serious note 2020: Normally I'd take impact > duration but I think the Maeda trade is a push. That COVID season was 60 games, I mean Martin Perez would've been a CYA candidate at one point if we only looked at his best two months with the Twins. Outside of that 11 game stretch Kenta was injured or just not that good. 2021: Ryan is the feather in Falvey's cap; hands down the best trade he made. The Berrios swap? Eh... 2022: Gray is a W barring a Petty bounce back. Lopez imploded. Mahle was a disaster. Pagan and Paddack were bad. 2023: Lopez for Arraez worked out better for the Twins, at least to date. 2024: You need to include DeSclafani in that swap. A cash strapped team burning $4M or $5M on a SP hurts. In general, Topa + an unusable SP for Polanco isn't a W. You can love Gonzalez all you want, but he hasn't done a single thing at the MLB level yet. Falvey traded for Margot that same offseason as well. 2025: TBD I'd say survival bias and the fact that Ryan and Lopez are amongst the only above average players left on this team are coloring our view of the past.
  6. The Twins' payroll in 2023, relative to the league, sat essentially where it was for basically Falvey's entire tenure. If there was some sort of promise in place to massively bump payroll to offset Correa's outsized portion of the budget, it hasn't been reported. Falvey was consistently praised for "spending to his max budget," by Twins media, and that's what he did. He maxed out the budget by signing a player that he viewed as a star and he attempted to supplement the rest of the positional group with young/cheap players. It was a massive failure. I think the recklessly stupid public statements by ownership have provided more cover for Falvey than anything, Also, wasn't he in charge of the business side when the tv disaster took place? We're giving him a pass there too? The Pohlads are terrible owners, but this roster didn't get to the point it's at simply because they scaled back payroll. Poor development, poor resource allocation, and poor strategy are huge factors as to why this club couldn't make it out of the lowly ALC 4 of the last 5 seasons.
  7. You missed the point, the focus is the symmetry, i.e. the farm is in roughly the same shape upon exit as it was when Falvey entered the organization. I'm sure other publications might disagree, whatever, we're talking about a decade at the helm with two good seasons from a single SP who may or may not be cooked at this point and a couple relief (albeit one elite) arms. The fact that you even have to mention Brock Stewart amongst the greatest hits collection kinda says it all.
  8. Houston was clinging to a division lead when Valdez coughed up that GS and then drilled (it was not a cross up) his catcher with a 93 mph sinker. Salazar (the catcher) is a AAAA player trying to hang onto as much MLB time as he can get, so he of course had to eat it and nod along with whatever "explanation," came out afterwards. Assuming they can afford him and he's willing to do a one year deal with MN (I think there's a near zero chance here) is Valdez really a guy you want on the roster? Yeah, this team is likely to suck with or without him, and you could theoretically flip him at the deadline, but as an actual fan of the Twins I'm on board with passing on Valdez.
  9. I've seen this sentiment echoed in both threads. 2023 was the outlier of the last 5 seasons and even for most of that season they weren't a good team. They were below .500 going into the ASB. They needed Cleveland to straight up quit on the season + a historically awful rest of the ALC + unrepeatable contributions from multiple rookies to win 87 games. 2024 looked identical to 2022 and last year was more of the same malaise. If we're giving Falvey a pass for the last two years, what's the excuse for 2021 and 2022?
  10. An owner being more hands on and trying to force a "winning," season with one of the worst rosters in baseball seems like a disaster but YMMV. Falvey might have wanted out before too much of the organizational stink got on him, not that he isn't also culpable for the mess that is the Minnesota Twins.
  11. That definitely dampens what enthusiasm I had for parting ways with Falvey.
  12. What's even more strange is that such a...prolific...writer had the solo scoop and was able to sit on this story for months apparently. Such restraint.
  13. It was time for Falvey to go. It probably should've happened before now, but whatever. Call me a downer, but I think there's a lot of wishcasting going on with regards to Tom Pohlad's motivation(s) right now. I too hope he saw the god awful roster and the piss poor on field performances this club has been turning in, but I also have zero faith in that family giving a **** about the on field product. I'm curious whether it was a power struggle and Falvey didn't want to relinquish control of the business side, or maybe it was personal, Idk, either way I kinda doubt it matters. Zoll sliding into Falvey's old chair is just another half measure from an organization feebly attempting to tell us that they don't do half measures and the business is being run by a family that's a walking PR nightmare. Two things can be true at once; I can be glad the Falvey era is over and simultaneously feel zero optimism for this club based on the current power structure.
  14. "Editor's Note: An earlier version of this story indicated the team would begin an immediate search for a new president of baseball operations. During his press conference, a reporter asked Pohlad about that search, and Pohlad corrected the record: Zoll will be in charge of baseball ops. The team is not pursuing a replacemeny for Falvey outside the organization at this time." I'm too lazy to piece the timeline together. Are they seeking a replacement or simply eliminating the role and putting Zoll in charge?
  15. They were literally the worst team in baseball after the deadline last year. They've done next to nothing to raise that floor. The roster is pathetic. That doesn't happen only because spending was curbed. The development side has been an abject failure. Poor decision making in trades/FA have compounded the issue, and yes, cutting payroll hurt as well, but this club has missed the postseason 4 of the last 5 years in what's undeniably the worst division in baseball.
  16. Concur, promoting Zoll and taking over the business side yourself doesn't equate to a big shift. If anything it's pretty much status quo for this organization.
  17. Well, they're not searching for a replacement and Zoll just got promoted.
  18. Brooks Lee projected for 2.1 WAR....I mean.... We could pick this thing apart all day, but how is anybody taking these projections, and by extension this article, seriously.
  19. Sabato was drafted in 2020; as far as time missed we're talking about 4-6 weeks in A ball at most. He's spent the last 5 full seasons in the minors as a college bat drafted in the 1st round. At what point can we just admit he's a bust?
  20. Eh, it was cost controlled. I don't think that's debatable. Duran and Jax were early in arbitration and Varland was (and still is) making league minimum. Coulombe and Stewart weren't making a dent. That's a rough take on Jax. The guy was elite in 2024. He had bad ERA with the Twins last year (4.50) but he also rocked a 2.03 FIP so I'll let you do the math on that. His 2022 and 2023 seasons might not have been spectacular, but they're solid at the very least. This current bullpen would kill for a pitcher of his caliber. If the Twins signed a Jax clone this board would be overjoyed. Varland returned a top LH pitching prospect? Top of what? Rojas is top 10 within the Twins system but that doesn't mean much. He's eclipsed 80 IP once in 4-5 years. I think Varland was a little overrated because of the MN ties, but he was undeniably good for the Twins last season, and league minimum for multiple years is a big deal. Stewart? Whatever. He was never healthy, and some fans struggled to realize that. That said I'd take an injured Stewart on the IL + an open 40 man spot over Outman being absolutely worthless yet retained because this FO can't/won't admit defeat. I wouldn't call the 2025 pen great but they moved their top 4 arms (5 if you count Stewart when healthy) The Duran gap isn't getting filled, but they've done borderline nothing to address the other holes at the top as well. Sands made the pen look better last year? Huh? I think the whining is justified.
  21. I'd argue that Garlick being the most successful of that bunch makes the others AAAA as well.
  22. I honestly can't tell if it's actually unbridled optimism bordering on delusion, or low key trolling for the sake of being contrarian.
  23. I agree that Kyle Garlick was a AAAA player - late 20s when MN scooped him, multiple organizations over the previous few seasons, little if any actual MLB success in limited playing time. Sounds a lot like Clemens and Wagaman. What's separates Garlick from the other two? A) .225/.277/.438 B) .206/.263/.403 C) .250/.293/.381 Without looking it up, can you tell me which one of those lines is AAAA Kyle Garlick?
  24. They'll be playing more than 3... 3B, SS, 1B, LF, and DH are all below average bats right now and that's assuming Wallner ticks upwards in RF. No permutation of bench players changes the fact that this club is currently locked into at least half of their lineup being below average on any given day.
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