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I assume the plan there was Festa was getting 1 guy in the 7th no matter what. Didn't trust Thielbar against the power righty and was hoping Festa could get him and then turn it over to the pen. Certainly didn't work. Not sure if it was a good or bad plan, or if it's refreshing to see Rocco break from his norms or not. But I'd guess that was the plan. And it definitely didn't work.
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Yeah, I have to remind myself to go check how they're doing on certain things compared to the league as a whole because watching everyday can make it feel like they're terrible with baseball being such a game of failures offensively.
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Twins score a runner from 3rd with less than 2 outs 53.5% of the time. Tied with Atlanta for 7th best in baseball. Advance a runner from 2nd with 0 outs 49.2% of the time. 9th worst in baseball.
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Martin's current OPS+ is 87. Margot's is 81. Straw was at 65/66. I don't think you're grasping how bad Straw is offensively. He was the 3rd worst hitter in all of baseball the last 2 years. There isn't a qualified hitter under a 74 OPS+ this year. He was nearly 10 points below that! Tim Anderson and Javier Baez were the only 2 hitters worse than him last year. Tim Anderson is out of baseball right now because the 48 win Marlins didn't want him anymore, and Javier is only still around because the Tigers don't want to eat 25 mil next year, and 24 mil the 2 years after that so they're hoping he can figure it out a little. The year before it was Geraldo Perdomo and Jonathan Schoop below him. Schoop was out of baseball halfway through last year. He's been playing in Curacao and Mexico since. Perdomo was a 22 year old rookie. And Straw has been hitting even worse in AAA this year than he did in the majors the last 2 years. And, again, he's getting paid 6.4 and 7.4 million the next 2 years. That's more than Margot and Martin combined. By multiple millions. I'm by no means a Margot fan. Hate that they roster 1 tool, short-side platoon bats. But I'll take him over Straw 100 out of 100 times. If the Guardians, who spend less than the Twins, prefer to have a $6 million player in AAA instead of on their roster while they fight for the division why would the Twins want that player?
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He has a .660 OPS in 108 games in AAA this year. That's more than "limited offensively." His 2 full seasons in Cleveland were 65 and 66 OPS+ seasons. He was the 3rd worst qualified hitter in baseball in each of those seasons. He makes 6.4 million next year and 7.4 million the year after that. Cleveland would have to eat his whole contract and kick in a prospect to even get me to think about bringing him in to play for the Twins. If the Twins can't do better than Myles Straw they need to just pack it up and call it quits as an organization.
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I haven't seen an overhead shot that shows Watkins so it's hard to tell what happened. Listening to the broadcast clip it sounds like Watkins waived him late. If Rocco is upset with Kepler it would seem the vast majority of the blame should be pointed at him. But I'd like to hear why Watkins was so late waiving him. From the clip it looks like Kepler is at 3B before/as Soler is picking the ball up at the wall. That should've been an easy waive from the start. I don't like questioning player's character, effort, etc. I don't know them. There was a poster on yesterday who was upset with Lewis because he smiles on the field too much. People used to always get on Mauer because he didn't react as outward emotionally as they wanted. Claimed it meant he didn't care. I think those are outlandish takes. Somebody not reacting the way you would doesn't mean they aren't as competitive, don't care as much, or aren't effected. But if Rocco is throwing veiled jabs at Kepler I'd think it's fair to assume this situation involved more than his knee or a late Watkins waive. Not a good look for Kepler. I don't know if it's about free agency as the article suggests, but not a good look no matter what the real problem is.
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Not sure how moving Festa to the pen to pitch fewer innings while putting an inferior pitcher in his rotation spot to pitch more innings helps the team overall during the regular season. He's probably fighting with Zebby for the 4th spot in the playoff rotation and likely loses that battle, but I don't get how moving him to the pen now helps the team overall.
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Jackson Merrill was a 20 year old making his debut in the majors and they switched positions for him to do it. Mookie is the obvious one today, but the Red Sox moved him to RF originally because of Pedroia being at 2B. Manny Machado switched between 3B and SS when he was a young, cost controlled face of the franchise player. Fernando Tatis Jr switched from SS to RF to get their best team on the field. Xander Bogaerts moved from SS to 2B. Some fella named Judged has moved around OF positions. Some dude named Soto has as well. Carlos Correa was going to move to 3B for the Mets. Cody Bellinger moved around the OF and 1B when he was winning an MVP award at the age of 23. Trea Turner moved from SS to CF back to SS with a stop at 2B along the way. Couple of those guys got paid pretty well because they weren't seen as "utility guys" just because they switched positions a time or 2. There's got to be close to, if not over, 2 billion in contracts there. Definitely over once Soto signs. Maybe even pushing 2.5 to 3 billion after that and when Merrill gets paid. And that's just 10 guys.
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I think MLB managers are one of the most overrated things in sports. The Guardians were only good because they had Francona. Except now they're good with a guy who's never managed a day in his life before this season. Tom Kelly was great in 87 and 91 because they won World Series titles, but apparently forgot how to manage in 10 of his 15+ seasons when they finished below .500. People love to mention him towards the top of the Twins managerial rankings despite him having a career 47.8 winning percentage as a manager. Talent wins, not managers. That being said, I think it's really hard to compare today's managers to yesteryears. It's a different situation. Baseball ops departments are more involved with the everyday decisions than ever before. Even Joe Maddon complains about front offices stepping too far into clubhouses and manager's offices now. And he's viewed by many as the original "manage by analytics" guy with what he did in Tampa. That shift has happened more and more each year to the point that even he moved on from the managing thing. I don't think Rocco is great. He appears to do well managing the clubhouse. As best we can tell from the outside at least. Everyone not named Shoemaker seems to praise the Twins and how they treat their players (even Sonny had nice things to say when he was back the other day, despite some crazy claims around here). That's a lot on Rocco. I also don't think Rocco is terrible. He makes some decisions I really don't understand, but for the most part I can see the logic in his choices. But comparing him to guys who had full control of how the players were used isn't exactly comparing apples to apples. It's a different world for managers now. Not just with the Twins, either. Baseball Ops departments are more involved than ever. So just pointing at a manager and saying it's all on them is ignoring a lot of the reality of modern MLB team management.
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No, winning only counts if you win the way I want you to win.
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Matt Canterino hasn't thrown a pitch in a game since spring. I believe it was a strained rotator cuff that took him out in March and they shut him down from his bullpens again in June when he'd been trying to work his way back to St Paul's pitching staff. Looks like another completely missed season for him.
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That's fair. But Duran 62% of balls in play on Duran are grounders. And and 68% of balls in play against him are pulled or up the middle. You'd be playing for 32% of balls in play against him instead of 68%.
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Tanana: .670-.715-.724-.734 Darling: .698-.715-.730-.712 Fernandez: .588-.618-.693-.850 So if Darling could get to a 4th time through the order he came back down a little. And he did so in 175 of 364 career starts. But even 3 time All-Star Tanana, 1 time All-Star Darling, and 2 time All-Star Fernandez got worse the more times they went through the order. Fernandez significantly so. For context, that's Tanana going from giving up an 85ish OPS+ to a 105ish OPS+. Darling a 90ish to a 99ish (.712) or 110ish (.730). And Fernandez a 60ish to a 140ish OPS+. So those are some pretty decent size changes for at least 2 of them. Teams didn't just start making stuff up. They studied this stuff once all the data was collected. It also simply makes logical sense. The more you see a guy that day the better feel you get against them and the less they can trick you. Now you add in today's technology with tablets in the dugouts giving the hitters a head start to begin with and pitch to pitch real time data and it shouldn't surprise anyone that it's even harder now for pitchers to get through a lineup 3+ times.
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Yeah, you were "just picken" Hall of Famers. Barry Bonds had a 195 wRC+ vs lefties. Ricky Henderson stole over 1400 bases. Tony Gwynn struck out in 4.2% of his PAs. Should we use those as the baseline for what MLB players should be expected to do? "Well Hall of Famers didn't have the same struggles" is a pointless argument. That's why they're Hall of Famers! They shouldn't be used to discuss the general baseball world. They're outliers and not useful comparison points. Want to "just pick" a few random starters instead of HoFers and see if they jump up higher than .678 the third time? I bet they do. Since, you know, they're not the best of the best.
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OPS first-second-third-fourth time through a lineup: Tom (Hall of Famer): .613-.622-.636-.637 Bert (Hall of Famer): .639-.664-.678-.710 Nolan (Hall of Famer): .613-.578-.614-.622 Picking Hall of Famers as your baseline is unrealistic, but even those HoFers got worse the more times they saw a lineup outside of Nolan the 2nd time. Them being amongst the best of the best to ever do it means they didn't get as worse the deeper they went. But they still got worse.
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Not a lot of help here. I'd guess/hope Winder is back in a couple days when his 15-day time out in AAA is over. Sending him down was probably a short-sighted mistake. Varland in a couple weeks? Or do they go to him on 9/1? The challenge is that they need Sands, Jax, and Duran available for every close game late. And leads late. Unfortunately their offense isn't great right now so most games are close late, and 60% of their rotation needs 4 innings of coverage. Ober and Lopez not being back to back helps if they can both get through 7 in their outings to give a little rest for the pen. Any short start out of those 2 is brutal. With Alcala taking a step back recently he's not as trustworthy anymore, but likely needs to be the 4th "high leverage" arm. None of the other 4 should be anywhere near leverage, but they won't have a choice. While I can understand throwing Duran Saturday since he hadn't thrown in so long, they really can't use him, Sands, or Jax in any game that isn't close. Have to trust that they can shake the rust off in the pen before entering the game if they have a week off of game action. Need them to finish every late, close lead. Need to get multiple innings from anyone they can. Have to trust Henriquez and Winder to go 2 multiple times a week. And Varland when he gets here (the Cleveland series is still my target date for him). Paddack for October could be huge, but they shouldn't be counting on it. Sands, Jax, and Duran are going to have to carry them to October. Let's hope they're up for it and still have something left in the tank once (if) they get there.
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I think everything this FO has done the last couple years screams that Julien and Martin are going back to AAA if the roster is ever fully healthy. Only way it's not them is if Margot or Farmer suddenly feel a tweak in their hammy they didn't know was there until Falvey swung by the clubhouse to talk to them. Like Gallo last year. This FO doesn't drop veteran position players if they can do anything at all to help it. But history tells us there's a very little chance the roster is ever fully healthy so at least 1 decision will be made for them by somebody else being injured along the way.
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I'm not sure Falvey knew what his future budgets were going to be when he signed everyone he signed. It's an ever moving target. And this last offseason was even more hard to predict than usual because of the TV deal being up in the air. And ownership does have something to do with which players are added, traded for, etc. If you're just talking Pohlads they seem to stay out of player decisions for the most part, but they're consulted, especially for deals like Correa. Other owners are much more involved (the Angels and Rockies being examples of it being a really bad idea most of the time). Ownership isn't oblivious to who they're bringing in or trading away. There's a solid chance they were involved in talks about who to trade, especially when it comes to trading a long-time fan favorite like Polanco. That's a move that also effects the business side of things as certain segments of the fanbase will be upset when you trade their favorite players. Ownership is involved in all of this, but the Pohlads do seem to just let their guys do their thing for the most part. But a big deal was made about the new baby Pohlad having an office at Target Field and being there basically everyday. There were articles written about it on multiple sites. I don't think he's dictating moves often, if at all, but he's involved in everything. He has to sign off on every deal they make.
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But the money ownership allows the front office to spend matters. Falvey chooses players based on the finances he has available. Pretending the Pohlads cutting payroll by 30ish million didn't effect the decisions the FO made is being willfully ignorant. Of course it effects the decisions. I didn't make any comment on ownership being the cause for the loss. You added the money statement to the conversation. Attendance isn't the driving factor on payroll, but I don't think I'd consider them "well above their attendance ranking." They were 22nd in attendance last year and are in the 19 to low 20s in payroll this year depending on your source. That seems pretty in line to me. Especially considering they were likely expecting to add to their attendance numbers coming off a playoff series win last year. They didn't add attendance largely because of the financial decisions ownership made. Which is their right to do, it's their team. So now they're 24th in attendance this year. So I still wouldn't consider their 19-22ish payroll ranking to be "well above" their attendance rank. But the bottom line on spending and team building is that I completely disagree that you can separate the 2 things. The amount of money you have changes how you build your team and which players you pick. Yes, the wins and losses are on the players. But separating ownership from the FO completely is also off base.
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