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  1. Never argued he lived up to the contract. But I expect OPS+ numbers in the 130 range the next couple years in Houston. We'll see.
  2. He was having the best season of his career last year before he got hurt. This idea that "he's been declining for a while now" isn't based on reality. It's absolutely not true. No sense in arguing about it, though. We'll see.
  3. I have no problem moving any player anywhere on the field. They've all played baseball their entire lives, they can play other positions. But this is exactly why every time people complain about anyone involved in sports not being honest or open or whatever I say "what do they have to gain?" Royce is human and gave his human, open, honest feelings on the situation. I fully agree he should've been able to slide over without it being such a circus, but I also think he should be allowed to not want to. I can do plenty of other tasks at my job but it doesn't mean I want to. I don't know if Royce will ever learn, or even wants to learn, how to manage the media like CC does. Royce is incredibly open and honest. And there's no upside to it. There's never upside to it. Same reason Falvey gives nothing but empty corporate speak constantly. Better to annoy fans with corporate speak than be the prima dona.
  4. Royce spent all offseason working at 2B. It's been widely reported. Royce didn't want to switch positions in the middle of a playoff push to a spot he'd never played before because he didn't want to screw things up. Even at the time he said he didn't mind playing 2B in general, he just didn't want to do it in the heat of a playoff push. The Twins didn't move Correa to third because they didn't have anyone who was better at short. Their best defensive alignments were all with him at short. I think fans are going to be very upset when Correa gets back to being Correa next year in Houston. We'll see.
  5. Oh, nothing but respect here either. I'm here for the disagreements. If we all saw things the exact same way it'd be a pretty boring site! Part of my struggles with yesterday (well, last week since not all the trades were yesterday) is that it's hard to see a true plan. So, it sounds like our struggles are the same. The bullpen rebuild is where I'd guess I disagree most with the front office. My stance is they're not trying to rebuild but instead reshape/retool/whatever. They're trying to win now and later. But in order to do that they now need to build an entirely new bullpen. I think they think they can do that significantly quicker than I think they can. I think their plan is exactly how you described it and I think it's going to be a tough watch next year. Or, maybe, they take their 3-4 inning "not starter, not reliever" strategy from the minors this year and try that in the majors next year with Abel, Bradley, SWR, Festa, Matthews, Raya, etc.? I don't know. But either way, I think it's going to be rough. My view on next year is that it's going to be a mess. I think they're going to try to compete and I think that's a mistake. I hope they trade Ryan, Lopez, and Ober this offseason and go full rebuild. Trade Larnach (should've traded him yesterday). Right now it's very hard to see what path they're taking. My hope is that the offseason clears things up some, but I'm not holding my breath. I'm going to watch, too, but I won't be setting aside time for them. I'll be watching to see who gets called up the rest of this year. That's the best way, I think, for us to guess what their plans are for next year. If they start calling up young guys that's probably a bigger sign a true rebuild is coming. If it's only the 25- to 29-year-old types getting ABs through the end of the season it's probably confirmation that they're going to try to go for it next year. Will be very interesting to see who they give ABs to. Lewis, Lee, Buxton, Larnach, Jeffers, Wallner, Clemens, Keaschall all going to get a bunch I'd assume. Will be interesting.
  6. Oh, I'm all for calling them up this year. Especially Culpepper and Gonzalez. Just not until September. I'd bring Miranda and Julien back today. Tell them they're starting every day for the month of August. Lefties, righties, doesn't matter. They're playing every single day. Their careers are on the line. Not just with the Twins, but in general. If they want anything other than a trip to Japan or some minor league deal next year they need to show something in August. I'd give them that chance. Wouldn't have high expectations, but they're on the 40-man so I'd give them their last gasp. Come Monday, September 1st when the White Sox roll into town I'd have Culpepper and Gonzalez at Target Field ready to go. Probably Jenkins depending on how he looks in August. If you're not going to look at Miranda or Julien again just DFA them now. Why even carry them? Are you going to bring them back for next year and see if they figure it out then? If you don't trust them now it's time to just give up. Let them go somewhere else and try to start over or bring them up and see if they can figure it out on the fly.
  7. I think they said 109 off the bat on the broadcast. He's a big boy and there's definitely power potential in there. And I don't think the homers need to come now. A bit like Manny Machado who hit a ton of doubles early in his MLB career and they just naturally progressed into HRs as his career went along. If he just keeps squaring the ball up and making adjustments he's going to be just fine.
  8. Oh, I have no faith in their ability to actually pull off good trades, but that doesn't mean I think they should trade all that for 1 guy with 70 MLB games under his belt. I will say that they have gone after better athletes recently in both the draft and trades. I mean Outman and Roden are far better athletes/defenders than Larnach and Wallner. But, no, I don't trust them to trade all those guys separately for great returns. My only hope at this point is that the sale happens and it's a new front office running the offseason. But I'm not holding my breath.
  9. Oh, fully agree about the motivation to watch and cheer for the Miranda, Julien, Gasper, Outman team. But that shouldn't be the team's motivation for calling up the young guys an extra month early. I don't think waiting an extra month pushes off the rebuild. Not meaningfully, at least. And, I don't think there is a "rebuild." I think they're going to try to win next year. It's why Outman is here in the first place. And maybe Miranda or Julien actually look good (I'm not betting on it or making an argument that they're likely to, just saying it's technically possible) for the rest of the year in the majors. Then maybe you can get a rookie ball pitcher with a 4.50 ERA this offseason instead of just DFAing them. Never hurts to add an asset. Outman is here next year. I have to assume. Why else trade for him? Just get fan favorite "cash considerations" if you're just going to cut him immediately. So may as well get him up here to impress us all from the jump! And Gasper may be our Vazquez replacement next year. So may as well throw him behind the dish now and see what you have (I've watched him in AAA and despise that idea, but I'm just some random guy on the internet). From a fan perspective I'm totally with you. No desire to watch the team they're likely to run out there and will be watching far more minor league games the rest of the year than Twins games. But I don't want them to compound what I already feel are bad roster decisions with more bad roster decisions. But, like I said, I think they're trying to win next year so I don't expect to see any of those young guys up early next year anyways so it's really all moot anyways. I hate my Twins fan life right now.
  10. Oh, he's been an absolute monster, no doubt. But it's 70 games. Joe Ryan should bring back 2 near MLB ready top 100 type guys, plus more. Kyle Teel has 32 games of a 117 OPS+ and the White Sox got 3 other guys on top of that. Ober should bring back at least 1 near MLB ready top 100 guy, plus more. If Wallner gets his s*** together the rest of the year he would bring back another one. I mean, you're talking about giving yourself 4 swings at the next Kurtz. You just have to pick the right guys. Trading 2 established playoff quality starting pitchers (plus more) for 1 player sounds like something that's probably never happened in the history of baseball.
  11. The extra month of ABs for guys like Jenkins, Culpepper, and Gonzalez aren't going to make or break their careers. They aren't going to win more games than Miranda, Julien, and Gasper in August with those 3 youngsters. Playing those 3 AA guys in the majors starting today would take them all well past their rookie eligibility without giving you any real added bonus. If any of them have monster years next year that would've won them the rookie of the year award all you did was cost yourself an extra draft pick. What is the point of that? Calling them up today provides no real added benefit. Give Miranda, Julien, and Gasper types their last month to see if they can save their careers. Then drop whoever isn't going to be here next year to call up Jenkins, Culpepper, Gonzalez, etc. and give them every AB in September. They get their MLB experience while maintaining rookie eligibility. Why wouldn't you want to give them MLB experience and also keep your chance to gain an extra late first round pick?
  12. Yeah, that comment was a follow-up after the other poster responded to my first comment disagreeing with the premise of this article. I don't think the Twins picked a lane. I don't think they're rebuilding. I think they're trying to win "now" (not this year, obviously) and in the future. I think the article is 100% wrong. I think the Twins are trying to have their cake and eat it, too. The idea behind trading all 3 of them was that if they were truly rebuilding, as the article argues, then that's what they'd do. But they aren't. So, I don't think they will. I fully agree with your assessment of what they did to the team yesterday and I also see them working hard to remain competitive while they remake the team. It's what I hate about yesterday. I hate Outman being here. I hate that return. It's awful and pointless (unless you trade Larnach and/or Wallner). I hate getting returns ranging from 16 to 28 years old. That's not picking a lane. I wish they would've picked a lane. I wish they'd pick one this offseason. But they didn't, and I don't think they will. And I think it's going to lead to more mediocre at best teams. I do think there's risk in not trading all 3 of the starters this offseason, though. You keep the wrong guy and he blows an elbow and you're getting nothing for him (a comp pick, maybe). 2026 is lost. I mean, there's surprise teams every year and maybe it's the Twins next year, but the Twins are all about the numbers and the odds, and the odds are they're not winning next year. So, then you're playing for a 1-year window with whichever starter(s) you kept. If you're doing ok (.500ish ball, 1 game back of the wild card at the deadline let's say) that year are you trading them and blowing up fan relations AGAIN? Are you ok with just getting a comp pick for them instead of the multiple top 100 prospects you can get for them this offseason? That's the decision. What's the realistic outlook for this team in 2026 and 2027 and what are you willing to lose each of those 3 guys for? Either way, I think this article is 100% wrong. I think it couldn't be more wrong if it tried. They didn't pick a lane at all. They're still trying to win now and later. We'll see how it turns out.
  13. That is a whole lot to give up for 1 guy. I actually think the A's would accept that and turn around and flip Ryan and Ober for other pieces. Or at least think about it. Or I would if I ran them. I'd call all my people in and have a meeting about it for sure.
  14. The "wild swings" are what I've been tracking with KC. I still see a few ABs here and there where he clearly just kind of loses himself at the end and chases things he has no business swinging at, but totally agree those are few and far between and getting fewer and fewer as we go. Love to see it and would love to see him up in AAA for August. Jenkins looks like he's going into more ABs ready to let it rip earlier in counts. He has a little more Mauer in him at this stage than I'd prefer (I mean, I'll take a HOF career) in that his natural approach appears to me to be to take his singles or doubles to left center and be good with it. But lately it's felt (I don't watch enough to have anything more than hunches and feelings and guesses at this stuff) like he's gone up there looking to do more damage, especially early. His swing looks more violent, but still in a controlled way. In that HR AB yesterday he even swung hard enough on a couple swings that he lost his balance a little which I thought was weird for him and then he went yard.
  15. I'd actually argue they should go with that second group of players until September. Don't use up rookie eligibility on the other group this year. Get them up in September to get their feet wet, but keep them eligible for the extra draft pick if any of them go nuts in 2026 and can snag rookie of the year.
  16. They don't HAVE to trade any of them. But if this is truly a rebuild why wouldn't they trade all 3? Their value isn't going to ever be higher. Assuming Ober comes back and pitches like his usual self the rest of the year and Lopez comes back and proves he's healthy at the end of the year. 2 years of control will be far more valuable than 1.3, 1, or .3. No, they don't HAVE to trade those guys, but if, as the article suggests, the Twins truly picked a lane and they're going full rebuild then the absolute right choice is to blow it up and trade those 3 this offseason to get the maximum return. They're the 3 that can really get a rebuild jump started. What's the point of holding them if you're truly doing a rebuild? There is no point. None at all. Their value won't grow and they're all going to be 30 next year so it's not like they'd be part of the rebuilt team anyways. Don't risk any of them blowing an elbow. If you're rebuilding you trade them all. But that's my point in the other post. I don't think they're rebuilding. I think they're trying to win now and later. And I think it's going to be a disaster.
  17. I disagree that they picked a lane. You don't bring James Outman back if you've fully picked the rebuild lane. You don't. It's not even an option. You pick any random prospect over James freaking Outman. A 28-year-old failed prospect. That is not picking the rebuild lane. The Twins blew up their pen. The one part of the team we already know they won't invest in and believe they can build overnight from any castoff or failed starter. They didn't touch any controllable starting pitching or position player that didn't save them $70 million. I think they very much remained in both lanes and it's why I absolutely hated yesterday. The return in the trades matters in this discussion. They got 28- and 25-year-old players and 16- and 18-year-old players. That isn't picking a lane. That isn't picking a target window for contention, that's trying to win now and later. Maybe they truly pick a lane this offseason by trading Lopez, Ryan, and Ober, but they didn't pick that lane yesterday. Blowing up the most fungible part of your roster that you never invest in anyways isn't tearing down your roster or rebuilding. It's not picking a lane. They held their most valuable pieces that would truly jumpstart a rebuild. The Nats didn't hold Juan Soto when they started their rebuild. The Twins held Joe Ryan. Until they trade their starting pitching they haven't picked a lane.
  18. I'd argue it wasn't a "complete tear-down and re-build" at all. They didn't trade their most valuable piece. Well, their 3 most valuable pieces, but 2 are hurt. If they trade their 3 top starters this offseason, THAT will be a complete tear-down. And bringing back 28 year old James Outman is not a re-build move, it's a re-tool move. And it most certainly wasn't "everybody on TD." I don't know if it was most or not, but it certainly wasn't "everybody." I didn't want a complete tear-down. I do now, though. I want them to trade Ryan, Jeffers, Lopez, Ober, and Larnach at a minimum this offseason. No reason to keep those guys now. If today changed Buxton's mind about being a 1-jersey player, trade him, too. But today wasn't a "complete tear-down and re-build." It was a half tear-down and combo re-build/re-tool. And that's why I hated it. They didn't pick a lane. They tried to have their cake and eat it, too. And it's why they'll continue to struggle. If they'd just have done a complete tear-down and re-build I would've been just as shocked as I was today, but wouldn't have hated it. But at least they would've picked a lane. Getting a 28-year-old OFer, 25-year-old OFer, 16-year-old, 18-year-old, and everything in between is trying to win everything and it's why they won't win anything. Falvey always says they don't care about anything but getting value. They don't care if it's present day or future, they just want to get value. Well, at least he's honest because they sure embraced that this week. But just following their value chart and having no apparent plan for when they're making a true effort to compete just makes it all a muddied mess. I'll leave the door open for the chance that they turn around and make follow-up moves during the offseason that consolidate things more, but I'm not holding my breath. If they do I will apologize for my rants today and say I was wrong and they had more of a plan than I gave them credit for. But as of right now the only semblance of a plan I see is them half-way trying to compete now and half-way trying to compete around 2029. And that's no plan at all.
  19. I don't see a plan here. Not one that makes sense to me at least. At this point I'm hoping for Ryan, Ober, Lopez, Jeffers, and Larnach deals this offseason. No reason to keep those guys. Buxton, too, if he wants out. This Stewart for Outman deal just doesn't make any sense to me.
  20. Were you? I think there's still a good chance they're trying to be "good" next year. Otherwise, why get Roden and Outman? Those are win now returns. I think there's a solid chance they think they can rebuild their pen on the fly and be back "competing" next year. I think they're trying to play both sides of the fence. And it's why they're going to continue to struggle. (Good and competing get quotes because I've realized my definition and their definition are simply different. They think a solid floor, mid-80s win, compete for a central title and take your chances team is the definition. I don't)
  21. Wait, they got James Outman in this deal? For what purpose? What purpose does he serve in this organization? What is the plan here? What is this team trying to be? Are they trying to win next year without Correa? This better be one heck of an offseason.
  22. Who the pitchers are will be interesting. May actually make the Duran deal look much better. De Vries is the best prospect dealt, by far, but JP Sears is also going to the Padres so at least 1 of those pitchers can be attributed to him. And Mason Miller has 2 more years of control than Duran does. So, who are those 3 pitchers? Will be really interesting to see.
  23. Gleeman posted on X that the Twins are assigning Abel to AAA, not the majors, fyi.
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