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Is he catcher 3 currently? Probably, not sure who else it'd be. If one of the 2 major leaguers went down with a long term injury do I think he'd be the call? No, they'd go find some random veteran off the street or in trade if it's before the deadline. They definitely need to figure out their catcher development system. But that's true of almost every team. The league is catching starved. It's why Martin Maldonado and Austin Hedges keep getting jobs and Ben Rortvedt got real run this year. The bar is not high for major league catching. Which makes it all the more sad that nobody seems to be able to develop any.

I didn't say they were pitching terribly. In fact, I said waiving Ronny was a risky move. It's not a move I would've made. It's not a move I liked at the time. But it's hard to take you seriously when literally 100% of the information you provide is inaccurate. Why should we trust the point you're trying to make when it's based on inaccurate information? And now you're admitting you didn't look anything up before you made that post you just threw out numbers you'd seen days ago or things you heard on a random podcast and didn't actually look into. I'm not nitpicking. You were 100% incorrect. Pointing out that you got literally every fact wrong is not nitpicking. Yes, Boston did win that game. 13-6. Like I said, they don't trust him in close games. Guys who aren't used on back-to-back days (or in close games where their team is leading) are guys who teams don't trust because they don't think they're good. He's been there for 3 weeks. My goodness. Like I said, I wouldn't go making definitive statements about him based on 5 innings. Once they start trusting him and they actually think he's good he's going to pitch on back-to-back days. Because every good reliever in baseball does. Literally 100% of them. And the Twins didn't "continually send Alcala out for a 2nd inning & on consecutive days." I already proved that. Less than 20% of his appearances fit that description. Your narrative is wrong and the numbers prove it. Alcala simply had bad stretches because he couldn't get lefties out and would lose his control for weeks on end. Not every Twins player not performing to your expectations is due to some mismanagement that would be solved if only they'd use that player in exactly the way you want them used. My philosophy on Moran? What philosophy is that? I don't have a philosophy on Moran. My philosophy on guys "doing very well" is that they need to pitch more than 2.1 freaking innings before I will define them as "doing very well." I don't think that's just my philosophy. I think that's pretty universal to anyone who talks baseball on a high level. The fact that you don't even know how he's performing in AAA and you just said what you heard says a lot. So, no, it doesn't sound like you're a liar, you're just uninformed. He has pitched 2.1 innings and has already given up a run at AAA. Does that sound like he's "doing very well?" You want a lot of pitchers in your pen that give up runs every other outing? Sound like a recipe for success to you? That's after he gave up 3 runs in 4.2 innings at A+ ball and 1 run in 3 innings at rookie ball. Not exactly dominating those lower levels. The Twins are "very high" on a lot of guys. They're "very high" on Marco Raya. Should we clear a spot for him in Minneapolis? Jovani Moran had an ERA of 5.31 in 42.1 innings in 2023. You're calling him a "good pitcher" because some random podcast said the Red Sox are "very high" on him and he's given up 1 run in 2.1 AAA innings in the last week. He's thrown 10 total professional innings in the last year. More than a year, actually. Nearly 2 years. But some podcast said they're high on him and he has 2.1 innings at AAA so he must be good. Ignore the fact that he's 28 and not even on their 40-man roster. You're calling these guys good without being able to back it up with more than 5 innings of Alcala in incredibly low leverage work in Boston, 2.1 innings of AAA work for Moran you heard about on a podcast, and 4 saves from Ronny. Ronny has been solid for Miami, no doubt about it. I wish the Twins hadn't waived him. But Alcala earned his way out of town this year, and Moran has thrown 10 innings in 2 years. And not 10 impressive innings. You're going to need more than "I heard it on some Red Sox podcast" before you start calling him a good pitcher. The guy we got back for him has a 165 wRC+ in AAA. In far more time there this year. And lead AAA in wRC+ last year while Moran wasn't even playing. Is Mickey Gasper a good player? He's "doing very well at AAA" and is only a year older than Moran.

Jovani Moran has thrown 2.1 innings in AAA for Boston. 2.1 innings. I can't emphasize enough how small of a sample size 2.1 innings is. "Doing very well in AAA" is such an outrageously misleading statement. He's thrown 10 innings all season. 3 at rookie ball, 4.2 at A+, and 2.1 at AAA. Stating that he's "doing very well in AAA" is nonsense. He's thrown twice. Jorge Alcala pitched twice for the Twins on back-to-back days this year. Twice. Didn't allow a hit in either of those appearances. Walked 1 guy for an OPS against of .143. Boston hasn't trusted him in anything even nearing a high leverage spot. What point are you trying to prove with those 4 innings (which is wrong, by the way. He's thrown 5 innings)? He's pitched in 6 games for them. 5 losses and a blowout win (not sure where you get your stats from, but they're so frequently wrong you may want to switch sources). He isn't pitching multiple innings or on consecutive days because Boston doesn't trust him, not because they think that's the key to his success. They only use him in losses and blowouts so there aren't as many opportunities for him to pitch. Oh, and he has given up a run. 3 days ago he gave up a run against Cincinnati. Alcala will be 30 before the trade deadline. Let's not act like the Twins "gave up on" some 24-year-old with 30 innings pitched. He has 7 years in the majors and nearly 200 innings. And don't act like he was constantly thrown out there on back-to-back days. It happened 23 times in his 7-year career. That's an average of 3 times a year. That didn't tank his career and it's a joke to suggest it did. He's made 172 appearances. He pitched back-to-back days 13% of the time. It didn't ruin him. He pitched multiple innings 33 times. That's 19%. Only 31 times has he thrown over 25 pitches in an outing, even if he threw more than 1 inning. That's 18%. Alcala's problem has always been his struggles against lefties and his times when he just doesn't know where the ball is going. He has 2 wild pitches already with the Red Sox, by the way. Still doesn't know where the ball is going sometimes. But he's been much better against lefties to start his time there. He's likely going to have some very good stretches and then have some stretches where he is simply terrible. Like he has his whole career. I wouldn't go crowning him the next great reliever after 4 innings. Especially when he's thrown 5 and the 5th didn't go quite as well as the first 4. Ronny Henriquez has 4 saves (again, your stats are wrong). But waiving him this offseason was always a risky move. All of the stats you gave in that post were wrong or severely misleading. I'd seriously consider rethinking where I get my stats if I were you.

I'm all for getting another great catcher. I think everyone should be. I think every team is. But they're rare. Like super rare. And my argument is simply not to reach for a catcher early in the draft just because you've failed to develop more than Jeffers recently. Reaching for lesser prospects based on positional need is a great way to destroy your system quickly. The world of catcher defense is changing with robo-umps moving up the chain. Pitch framing is going away. It will be interesting to see what changes that has to catcher drafting and developing. Someone like Irish (from what I read) is expected to move off catcher because his bat is expected to be ready so quickly they don't want his defensive development behind the plate to slow him down. Same reason Harper moved to the OF immediately. If you don't have to worry about his pitch framing do you maybe give him a little time behind the plate early? Probably not still, but it's something for teams to think about as catcher defense is simplified.

They took a 3rd round catcher just last year. And a 6th round catcher. They just traded for 2 catchers this offseason. Cardenas, Winkel, Jeffers, Diaw, Cossetti, Baez have all been drafted by this front office. Ricardo Olivar was an international signing as a catcher the same year as Emma was brought in. They signed Carlos Silva in 2023. Ricardo Pena and Jesus Peraza in 2022. That's 12 catchers I can name pretty easily. And that's missing at least 10 from just the 2017-2019 drafts alone. How many 3rd or 4th round catchers do you think you can name? Honestly. How many prospects in the minor league systems do you think you know of that were drafted in those rounds? Martin Maldonado is still playing major league baseball. For a World Series hopeful, no less (San Diego). He has only 21 fewer PAs than Vazquez. Vazquez is a terrible contract. They thought he could hit, that's why they paid him so much. But glove only veteran catchers are all over major league baseball. This idea that the Twins aren't drafting, trading for, or signing minor league catchers is nonsense. You complain that others aren't paying attention, but neither are you. You have your narrative and you're sticking to it because you're mad about Vazquez. So am I, but at least be honest about the situation. They were wrong about his bat so they paid him like a 2 way catcher when he isn't. But veteran, no bat catchers are all over the majors and are every year. Maldonado, Diaz, Bailey (who the Twins actually drafted in 2017), Herrera, Higashioka, Torrens, Hedges, Heim. The Twins need catching. I'm not arguing that. But Vazquez types are all over the league. He's going to get a job next year. Just making about 7 mil less than he is this year. There's about 6 to 8 catchers a year drafted in the first 3 or 4 rounds of the draft. The Twins have taken multiple catchers in the top 3 rounds under this regime. Including just last year. This idea that the league is full of highly drafted catchers is wrong. It simply isn't true. The idea that Vazquez style catchers don't happen on other teams because they're all drafting catchers high and producing their own is wrong. It simply isn't true. Shoot, Ben Rortvedt was still getting run with Tampa for a while this year because the league is so catching starved. You think Vazquez is bad, go look at that guy's numbers. Yes, he's significantly cheaper, but, again, Vazquez's deal is because the Twins mistakenly thought he could hit so paid him like a 2 way guy. Since Falvey took over the number of catchers taken in the first 4 rounds of the MLB draft has gone 6, 8, 6, 8, 8, 10, 8, 13. That's an average of 8 with a peak of 13 last year and only twice hitting double digits. The Twins have taken 2 of those catchers (Jeffers and Diaw). So, of the 67 catchers taken in the first 4 rounds since Falvey took over the Twins have taken 2 of them. I know you can do the math here. With 30 teams in the league 67 catchers is just over 2 per team in those 8 years. The Twins are right on average. They're not ignoring the position to some great extent like you're trying to make it seem. Or, if they are, on average, every major league team is. I'm not going to go through and see if there's some team drafting a ton of them in the first 4 rounds. You can do that on your own and make some great point. But your argument that they're ignoring it to their detriment is false. They're simply failing to develop their catchers. But they're signing international catchers. They're trading for minor league catchers. And they're drafting catchers. Including in the top 4 rounds.

No, not every team does agree, and I didn't say they did, or should. You take the best player on your board, regardless of position. It's up to your scouts and front office team to get that board in the right order. There are groupings where positions come into play, but the position a player plays shouldn't come into play until their talent level has been determined first. It's the tie breaker, not the driving force. It's all a projection. That's literally what the draft is. I'm not sure what your point is there. I don't care where guys are on public mock drafts or draft rankings. I don't get all hot and bothered about such things. I'll judge this draft in 5 years because it's all a projection. I'll be happier with some picks than others because of the tools players have currently and what their current projections are, but I'm not one who gets all crazy about things. Christian Vazquez is not a reason to reach for a catcher. They ended up with him because of bad major league scouting. They thought he could hit, overpaid to get him here, and were incredibly wrong. Taking a guy just because he's a catcher doesn't automatically solve that. There's no way you'd argue they should've taken a catcher in the first in 2017 (no catcher was taken in the first round that year and they had the #1 overall pick). Bo Naylor went 9 picks after Larnach in 2018. The Twins took Jeffers with their 2nd pick. Should they have taken catchers with their first 2 picks? They took 6 catchers that draft. I bet you couldn't name more than 1 of the other 5. 2019 was the Cavaco draft. Nobody ever complains that they didn't take a catcher with that pick, it's Corbin Carroll, Bryson Stott, and George Kirby that get brought up. No catchers taken in the first after some Rutschman guy went first overall and Shea Langeliers (who I was hoping for) went 10th so weren't there for the Twins pick. Korey Lee went 32nd, or 19 picks after Cavaco, and was the 119th ranked player on MLB's board. Oh, and he's a catcher who can't hit (although he's WAY cheaper than Vazquez) which the Twins have plenty of in their system. Next catcher went 73rd overall. You a big Logan Driscoll fan? 4 catchers in the top 73 picks of the draft. The Twins took Cavaco (awful, but no catcher there to take), Wallner, and Canterino with their picks. 2020 is the draft you want to complain about. Austin Wells went 1 pick after Sabato. Romo and Dingler went shortly after as well. 2021 saw the Twins take Chase Petty 27th overall. He's debuted for the Reds. Joe Mack was the first catcher taken after that at pick 31. He probably gets a cup of coffee this year. Toss up on that one. Mat Nelson was the only 2nd round catcher. I'm guessing you never heard of him. 2022 was Brooks Lee going 8th overall. Kevin Parada was the next catcher taken at 11. He's 23 in his third go round at AA putting up league average numbers and didn't make Fangraph's top 45 Mets prospects list. Daniel Susac went 19th. Fangraphs has him as the A's 25th best prospect. Dalton Rushing went 40th overall which was 8 picks before the Twins 2nd pick (Connor Prielipp). 2023 the Twins took Walker Jenkins. The 5th of 5 mega prospects at the top of that draft. Blake Mitchell was the first catcher taken at 8 overall. If we would've taken him instead we should've burned Target Field to the ground. Mitchell has played 8 games this year in the complex league. He has 5 games at A+ as the highest level he's played at. Kyle Teel went 14th. Ralphy Velazquez 23rd. The Twins 2nd pick was Luke Keaschall at 49. As you know, he's already debuted and looked pretty darn good. The next "catcher" taken after him was Cole Carrigg at 65. Catcher is in quotes there because he doesn't catch anymore. He caught 3 games in rookie ball and 3 games in A ball in 2023 and that was it. Hasn't caught a game since. Next catcher after that was Alberto Rios at 79. 3 picks before Brandon Winokur. That brings us to last year. Walker Janek and Malcolm Moore were the only catchers taken in the first round at picks 28 and 30. Culpepper was pick 21 and is on the fast track to Target Field to take over at SS. Janek is putting up league average numbers in A+ this year. Moore has only played 13 games at A+ because of injury. Caleb Lomavita and Jacob Cozart are the 2 catchers taken shortly after DeBarge was picked. So they'll be 2 to keep an eye on. Obviously much too early to make any real statements about that draft class, but Culpepper is looking great so far this year. You can make your own determination about those early round looks at things, but 2020 is the only draft I'm seeing where the Twins very clearly missed on things with Sabato over Wells, Romo, and Dingler. Sabato was a bat only player and those are 3 guys who've made it to the majors that went right after him. Otherwise, I'm not seeing which player you're wanting to see traded out for a catcher. Obviously the Cavaco pick was terrible, but a catcher wouldn't have been the replacement pick there, it would've been one of the 3 I mentioned. You're not trading out Lewis, Larnach (because they took Jeffers with their next pick), Petty, Lee, Jenkins, or Culpepper for catchers. All of those picks make sense. I guess you could argue forcing Mack into the Petty spot if you really, really wanted to but that'd just be because of hindsight knowing the current Twins situation. But at the time Petty made plenty of sense and we were all pretty happy they went with an arm early to get that upside because they were in pretty big need for pitching.

I'm always and forever best player available. It's really hard to be the best player if you're only bringing a bat to the table. That bat better be insane, and there's very few draft prospect bats that are ever that insane. Especially in the middle to bottom of the draft. The more tools in your tool belt the higher the chance you have that you can find enough tools to build yourself into a real MLBer. I don't care what position you play, just have as many tools in your belt as possible. Then it's just a matter of your scouts being able to determine pitcher vs position player in their rankings to determine best player available.

Like Kaelen Culpepper and Kyle DeBarge? Or Walker Jenkins, Luke Keaschall and Brandon Winokur? Brooks Lee isn't athletic, but he's the type of hitter you want and has good defensive skill and was followed by Tanner Schobel in the 2022 draft. In 2021 the only position player they took in the top 3 rounds was Noah Miller. The Twins changed their drafting "identity" 5 years ago. It's time to quit with this narrative. Aaron Sabato in 2020 was the last "big college bat who hits HRs" that they drafted early. Billy Amick fits that description last year, but he was their 3rd position player drafted. The first 2 were athletic college shortstops. One of which is leading the Midwest league in stolen bases by 10 (DeBarge). You're either not paying attention to who they're actually drafting or you're just ignoring it because you want to keep repeating this narrative that isn't actually based on the last half decade of Twins drafts.

I'm sure Lewis will be the call, but Martin would be mine. Or even Julien. Lewis needs to be Lewis or his 20 day rehab needs to be up before I'd bring him back. Flailing Lewis playing 90% of the time does nobody any good. Bride was doing nobody any good either, but bringing Lewis back immediately just because his name is Royce Lewis doesn't make sense to me. It's the same as the Ober situation. You expect him to be good so you're running him out there every 5th day to get his brains bashed in instead of ILing him to get him right because you don't want to call up a AAAer who you expect will get their brains bashed in every 5th day. You're already getting your brains bashed in every 5th day! They're the same situation. Get your guy right and then bring them back. If the results are the same at least use the time to get the better player back on track. The break is 2 weeks away. Let Lewis get his feet under him for the entire 2 weeks if that's what it takes. Come back after the break. Keaschall should be back then, too. I'm not a big believer in Austin Martin anymore, but he's actually earned a shot back in the bigs right now. Call him up tomorrow, not Royce Lewis. Let Lewis and Keaschall be the spark that lights the post-break fire.

I'm not saying they'll clear a spot for him. Or even that they should. But they should have Correa start getting a feel for 3B during the offseason. Because if Culpepper is the future SS of the Twins you don't let an aging Correa who can't field well enough anymore stand in the way, and Culpepper will be ready by next year. That doesn't mean handing him an opening day job blindly. I'm not saying that. It's very hard right now to predict what the Twins will or should look like opening day 2026. My point is simply that if Culpepper is going to be the future SS we hope he is he will earn a cup of coffee by the end of this year and deserve playing time early next year. And Correa should be preparing to play 3B if Culpepper is the superior defender at SS at that point. Correa's bat needs to be figured out no matter where he plays. He's expected to be a top 4 or 5 in the order bat no matter what position he plays defensively. Agree he needs to figure that out.

I'd IL him and try to get him right. Call up Adams and let him get 2 starts even though we know they'd be short. Or piggyback him 3 times in an attempt to save the bullpen completely those days and have 2 bullpen games between now and the break. Neither of those things are ideal, but I don't see any sign of Ober getting better. None at all. Running him out there every 5th or 6th day to let him get his brains bashed in the rest of the season isn't an answer. Sending him to AAA has the same result on the major league staff and I'd prefer to have him working with the major league coaches and resting. If he needs a AAA start or 2 in a few weeks give it to him then. You need to get Ober right if you want any shot at getting this thing back on the tracks this season and making the playoffs. I'll sacrifice 2 starts before the break and another after if he needs it to give them the best shot at that. So I'd IL him and let him rest for a week, assess him in the pen and either get to work on making mechanical adjustments or rest more and assess again. But I think now is the time to make the decision as you can maximize his rest with the break coming up. Calling up someone from AAA to make starts isn't ideal because Adams isn't stretched out and the others are struggling. But it's not like they're replacing peak Ober. They're replacing Ober performing the way we rear they'd perform. So let's have them perform the way Ober is while Ober gets right.

At least two years? If Culpepper isn't here next year it's likely much more than 2 years unless they get their next SS in the first round this year. Winokur can defend at SS, but can't hit yet and he's too big of a question mark with the bat to put any timeline on. But Culpepper was a first round pick and is succeeding in AA already. He should be in the bigs next year at the absolute latest. He should probably get a cup of coffee in September this year if he keeps playing like he is right now. I'm not suggesting moving Correa to 3B Tuesday in preparation for Culpepper, but a move to 3B for Correa over the winter could make some sense. At least start putting in some work there and be ready to make the move next season. If Culpepper is going to be the future at SS that future should start showing itself next year. And if Correa can't move well enough for SS anymore and Culpepper is the better defensive option there, Correa should be the one moving to get the best defensive alignment on the field. Correa should start seeing time at 3B by very early next season at the latest or things have gone terribly, terribly wrong with Culpepper.

Awkward looking swing, but dude could play.

All 3 of those position player prospects would be nice gets. Crawford would be the one I'd like most as he's probably ready for a debut and can provide some offense (I think his AAA numbers are a little inflated), big time defense, and base running and the Twins really need somebody like that. But all of these hypothetical trade articles come down to the same thing: are the Twins going to make significant changes or not? Falvey has shown no real appetite for making significant changes to the roster. Gray priced himself out. Polanco became a Pohlad business "right-sizing" casualty. Arraez was moved for Pablo. Otherwise, there aren't multi-year guys that Falvey really moves. I don't think Coulombe brings any of the position guys in return. Duran or Jax most certainly should, but I would be pretty surprised to see Falvey move somebody like that. I just don't think he's realistic about this roster and thinks it can compete better than many of us believe it can now and moving forward so he won't move pieces like Duran or Jax.

The Twins are 9th in baseball in zone%. Meaning they throw the 9th highest percent of their pitches in the zone. They get the 5th highest swing percentage on pitches in the zone. They also get the highest chase% in baseball. This leads to the 2nd highest opposing swing% in baseball. Only the Tampa Bay pitching staff gets a higher percentage of swings than the MN Twins. The Twins are third in baseball in 1st pitch strike%. So, the Twins are coming at hitters from the jump and pounding the zone for the entirety of at bats. They are getting a ton of swings. This is definitely not a Twins only problem as they are amongst the best in baseball at attacking hitters. And it's not just a pitcher problem. It's also a hitter strategy. Hitters want to work counts and raise pitch counts. It's been this way for a long time. Draw walks, make the pitcher work, and look for pitches in the heart of the plate to drive. The Twins can attack the zone but that doesn't mean the hitters are going to swing all the time, and with whiff rates what they are these days they aren't always putting the ball in play. Over half the pitches thrown in baseball are in the zone. 8 teams have zone% under 50%. Hitters swing at over 2/3 of pitches in the zone. Hitters make contact on over 80% of pitches they swing at in the zone. Shoot, hitters make contact with over 50% of pitches they swing at out of the zone. My guess is you're not going to see those numbers go up significantly.

I'm fascinated to follow Misiorowski's career. The fear with him has always been that he's a reliever in the long run because he doesn't throw enough strikes. He's a 5 BB/9, 14% BB rate kind of guy. Completely unsustainable at the major league level for a starter, theoretically. His stuff is so filthy that his K numbers are also massive and he's incredibly difficult to hit hard. And he's gotten his BB/9 down to 4. If he can keep his walks at 2 per 5 like he did today, that kid has a very bright future. If he can't, he has a very bright future as a closer. Throwing 100 opens doors. I don't think baseball has any idea what they're doing when it comes to developing pitching. As you said, trial and error. If somebody figures out how to get guys to be effective and stay healthy they're going to be handed 30 blank checks and be able to pick which team they want to run.

This isn't true. Zebby, Festa, Morris, etc. are not pitching 3-4 innings. They're pitching just short of 5. Like the rest of the league is doing with their top pitching prospects. https://fantasy.fangraphs.com/projections-fueled-top-30-pitching-prospects-midseason-2025-update/ Just released today. Fangraph's top 30 pitching prospects. There are 5 guys on the list who are averaging at least 5 innings. 5. 5 out of 30 of the best pitching prospects in baseball. Cinci, Toronto, Washington, Milwaukee, both NY teams, Miami, both Chicago teams, Houston, St Louis, Atlanta, Texas, Boston, Pit, Tampa, KC, Philly, formerly Oakland, Arizona, Colorado, San Fran. All on the list developing their top SP prospects the same way as the Twins. I don't like it. I wish all the teams would have their guys going 6+. But this isn't a Twins problem, it's a baseball problem. Jacob Misiorowski is taking baseball by storm. Out dueling Paul Skenes as we speak. He has 63.1 innings in 13 AAA games this year. Andrew Morris has 63.1 innings in 13 AAA games this year. Zebby was at 32.2 innings in 7 games. Festa 28.2 in 6. Chase Burns is an elite prospect who made his debut last night for the Reds. He has 66 innings in 13 minor league games this year. Less than 3 more innings spread out over 13 games than Morris. This 3-4 inning every 4 days thing is not what they're doing with all their starters. It's what they're doing with a handful of guys.

I'm not telling you to think he's good at his job. I'd fire the guy. Again, I never said any of those things about Levine so when you use him as a reference point you're not talking about me. I can't speak for other people's comments about him. You'll have to go talk to those people about him. The way the industry views Falvey and the Twins can be different than how the fans view him and the Twins. The industry doesn't view bunting the way many fans do so there's an obvious thing they're going to view differently. There are some very good defenders in the Twins system and some very good base runners. You're either not paying attention to the Twins system or you're just throwing out extreme statements to try to make a point. I honestly don't know which so I don't know how to respond. I agree that the Twins need to do a better job of building up starting pitcher prospects to go deeper into games. But let's not act like the average team is turning out a bunch of guys going 9 innings. Chase Burns debuted yesterday. Pretty big time prospect. Averaging 5 innings a start in the minors this year. Went 5 in his debut. Everyone is blown away by Jacob Misiorowski's start to his career. Has gone 5 innings and 6 innings in his 2 MLB starts after averaging just over 5 innings a start in the minors this year with only 4 of his 12 starts going more than 5 innings. Pulled with just 86 pitches thrown in each of his MLB starts. That's not to say the Twins don't need to do better, as I said, I agree they need to do a better job of building up starting pitcher prospects to go deeper into games, but they aren't doing something that's wildly off of the industry norm. Zebby and Festa are just under 5 innings per start. You're talking about 1 to 2 outs a start difference between the Twins and those other teams. Fans hate this stuff (including me), but the industry doesn't. You use it as an example of him being bad at his job when the industry doesn't see it the same way. The industry and fans don't see things the same way. Again, I dislike it, I want starters to go deeper, but the industry disagrees whether we like it or not. I'd fire Falvey. I don't disagree with everything he does, but I don't believe he's got what it takes to win a world series in Minnesota. And that's what I care about. I annoy some people because I have the audacity to not bitch about 100% of the things the Twins do. I annoy other people because I have the audacity to bitch about some of the things the Twins do too much. All I can speak to is the information I have available to me. And based on that information I believe Falvey is well respected around the league and will get another job in baseball when his time here is done if that's what he wants. You can feel different. That's fine. Doesn't bother me. We won't know until the time comes. If I were in charge his time here would be done already. But I'm not.

I don't think this is a bad idea, but if they're making this move they're making a lot more. And I don't know that I see Falvey giving up on things like that. Whether he should or shouldn't, I don't think he will.

MLB Network. I've never spoken on Levine because I never had a good read on how his exit played out or what he wanted when he left. If you want to take other teams calling on the head guys at the Twins to mean something other than the Twins FO being respected, be my guest. I don't understand that take, but to each their own. The other poster didn't think the Twins were getting calls from other teams and they were wrong. The Twins are voted amongst the top 10-15 front offices in baseball in anonymous polls of front office execs annually. Falvey and Levine have both received either actual interviews or interview requests. The idea that they aren't respected around the league seems to be pretty easily refuted by actual information from actual baseball front offices.

Boston came calling for Falvey less than 2 years ago. Edit: sorry, should've read more comments as others have already pointed that out.

Trading any of them not named Correa doesn't save much money, but if they think going young may actually put butts in seats they may like that idea. Hayes' article is not a Twins announcement of a Rocco extension. Hayes got some sources to confirm they picked up his option for next year, but Falvey wouldn't even confirm it on the record. The Twins didn't announce anything. It was reported. That's neither here nor there, just a little technicality talk. I bring it up because I think one could argue it shows the Pohlads trust in Falvey. They aren't going to dictate any moves to him. I mean, they've handed their entire franchise over to him at this point. Could I see the Pohlads telling him to explore a Correa trade to get out from that longer term money? For sure. But he has some say in that (no trade clauses are waived all the time so it's not an impossible hurdle). I don't know that I buy them being too hands on about trying to clear out the relatively low amount those other guys will have left on their deals come deadline time. Not huge savings there in terms of billionaire's pockets. But I never put anything past the Pohlads.

I agree with the premise and have suggested essentially the same thing in recent days. But it's a weird situation because the front office shouldn't be allowed to run the rebuild/retool/re-whatever you want to call it. Assuming there's no more double-digit win streaks and they're roughly around or below .500 at the deadline, my hope is they sell guys in the last year of team control. Get what you can for Castro, France, Bader, and Paddack. But save anyone with more control than that for the offseason for a new regime. That's my hope, not my prediction. My prediction is they don't do anything of note at the deadline. There isn't a new regime after the season unless there's new ownership. And the run of our best hope being slightly above mediocre continues.

Don't misquote me on different boards days after the fact. You could admit you were wrong instead of misquoting people. But here we are. You're not worth my time, Chief. Enjoy your day. The fact that you're still thinking about that discussion days later just makes me feel bad for you.

You don't know what quotes are used for do you? I never said it was a failed AB. I said that he was fooled and chased a pitch he shouldn't have swung at. It was a bad process that lead to a good result. I'm sorry you believe that "good result" equals "failed AB." Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit in your old age. You read what you want to read and you argue against the points you want people to be arguing. You're not worth my time. Whatever makes you feel better, champ.