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And having Gallo in CF helps that cause. Probably more to the point is getting to the WS is a product of developing talent. That's where we disagree. Our chances for an extended playoff run are slim but we would have no chance if not for the emergence of Julien / Kirilloff / Jeffers and Wallner. Again, you absolutely ignore how all of the successful teams have become successful. How do you continue to make this argument when literally every successful team has been built primarily from drafted players and players that were acquired before becoming established? The lower the revenue the more influential young players are to success. Do you pay any attention to the rest of the league?
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That has very little to do with this conversation.
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We should all look back to last off-season's commentary here . Kepler should be traded / Jeffers was a back-up at best / Gordon should be a starter according to many / How could anyone think Pagan should be on the team / many complained about trading Urshella. He has a wRC+ of 91 and .4 WAR. Many said Wallner would not make it / Julien's fielding precluded him from playing regularly / it would be a travesty of Correa was not signed / the addition of Solano was not exactly applauded / etc. Point being we keep score of FO decisions but ignore how often we as fans were way off.
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I don't think that's entirely fair, Mike. They have Buxton, Kirrilloff, Castro, and Stewart, very likely coming back and possibly Paddack / Alcala / Gordon. That will require they cut quite a few guys from the 40 man. I think it's more about not losing guys they want to keep for next year. He is not guaranteed to be better than Taylor and they plan to use Buxton in CF. Plus, they are only 4 days away from adding two roster spots. The more immediate question is who goes off the active roster? We add 2 but have 3 coming back and Martin would make 4. Would you cut Taylor? Martin is not getting time at 2B. Julien and Polanco are ahead of him there. Add all of those things up and it's reasonable he is not being added. BTW .... Gallo is not getting many ABs when Kirilloff / Castro / Buxton are back. and Luplow only against LH pitching where frankly we need him.
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We all understand at this point that you loathe young players. We all understand that you utterly ignore the fact that it's by far the most successful way to build a team. Furthermore, we understand that you chose to ignore the many examples around the league. Even the Dodgers are primarily homegrown. Atlanta was built around their young players. Houston was built by getting rid of every decent experienced player they had and then remained good by the addition of young players. They let Springer and Correa go and replaced them with young players. You show extreme bias by using a tiny sample size (last game) regarding our young players instead of recognizing they have carried the team. Take the last month or the whole year or whatever reasonable sample size you like and the only veterans doing really well are Kepler and Solano. You ignore the fact that the two best records in the AL (by far) are products of building from within. As a matter of fact, those two teams often trade experienced players for prospects and rarely the other way around. You ignore the fact that our experienced players we were counting on (Buxton/Correa, and Vasquez have been mediocre at best. You ignore that Julien instantly made a difference. You ignore Arraez did the same thing when he came up and you ignore that it's happening all around the league. In other words, it's not a well-informed point of view to put it kindly.
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I don't know what else you could ask of him. He has been awesome in August. Hitting 359 with an OBP of 481. I just don't think anyone who is not on the 40-man gets a shot this year.
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Minor League Report 8/26 Kernels Continue to Hit
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Ohl has been on a roll. 1.99 ERA and a .88 whip in his last 10 starts.- 21 replies
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Twins v Rangers Ump Scorecard
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Paddack starting facing live hitters on roughly 8/16. It seems feasible he could he be ready for 2 inning relief appearances but will he be sharp enough to put on a playoff roster? Stewart threw a 15 pitch BP session today. Maybe there is hope for him.- 39 replies
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Twins v Rangers Ump Scorecard
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Insufficient accuracy would explain why there has not been a more significant push. We won't see it until they can demonstrate great accuracy. My guess the umpire's union will fight it too. I had read a couple other articles that suggested they already have the accuracy down a fraction of an inch. If not, they will eventually come up with technology that is precise. When they do, it will change the game significantly for the better. For example, a 1-1 pitch called incorrectly changes the probability of getting a hit significantly. A 3-2 pitch like Wallner had last night changes the game. Accepting bad calls would be awfully crude once we have the technology to provide a fair outcome and the vast majority of fans an industry people will embrace it. -
Twins v Rangers Ump Scorecard
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Last off-season there were plenty people here who still favored umps calling games but I have not heard anyone defend the existing system in quite a while. The good news is Julien will be an on-base machine when we get the electronic strike zone or challenge system. -
Do you want to know if analytics are effective or if the twins have been effective with analytics? If you want to know if analytics are effective, you should want to look at the most complete array of information available. How could you tell from only looking at the twins if analytics are helpful? You would have to assume the Twins relative degree of success or lack thereof is caused solely by their use of analytics. I don't know why you want to use such a limited perspective in assessing anything. It's a good way to insure a very limited understanding by default. BTW .... The Dodgers have had the highest winning percentage in all of baseball for the last 15 years and the rays have had more success than any team in the bottom half of revenue.
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Home-grown vs. acquired players
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Good call! That's been an important part of how Cleveland / Tampa and Oakland have had far more 90+ win seasons than the other teams in the bottom half of revenue. There are lots of examples. Those teams have done a great job of trading for AA/AAA players and even guys that have made it to the ML level but were not yet established. -
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Most successful teams will have a very similar distribution, especially if players like Duran and Ryan that were acquired before becoming established major league players are put in the 1st category. The percentage of impact players is not quite as high among the highest revenue teams who obviously can afford premium free agents. -
The Change Driving Max Kepler's Heater
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It was really April and May that he was bad. June 6th was the day it started turning around. He had a wRC+of 122 for the rest of June and he just got better from that point forward. Ther league knows what he is doing now. It will be interesting if he can lay-off the 1st pitch out of the zone as the league adjusts to him punishing the 1st pitch. It's very sustainable if he can incorporate that kind of plate discipline. -
Good point. I would add that the Mets / Padres and the Yankees are individually spending roughly the equivalent of the Twins/Rays/Orioles combined. That said, the Twins will have an advantage because they have so many young/inexpensive players which has allowed them to extend Buxton / Lopez and sign Correa while still having room to fill a couple holes like a RH bat and a good BP arm.
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I don't think it's a reluctance to remove someone off the 40 man for Funderburk. It's that they are going to need 40-man space when they reinstate Buxton / Ryan and Kirilloff. Hopefully, Paddack and Stewart as well. Alcala? That's going to be a challenge, so they don't need to make it worse by adding Funderburk. Plus, I would assume they are looking at managing this to set-up for the playoff's. Ryan and perhaps Kuechel end up in the BP and best case scenario Paddack and Stewart are back. With a little luck where health is concerned, we are going to have a very deep pitching staff for the playoffs.
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It goes beyond he was having a bad year before having a huge week. He had a -1.1 WAR last year. The year before he had .7 WAR but did hit really well in the playoffs. He is also a poor defender, so I just don't understand how people look at the fact that he has been bad for a longtime while saying it was a mistake to let him go. It's an absolute refusal to look at the facts. They have not done well in terms of replacing him until now with Wallner but even the replacements have performed better than Rosario and the money was invested elsewhere. Last year the battle cry was we can't possibly let Correa go. Same story with Buxton. Most said Jeffers was not a starter. The majority said Kirilloff's wrist would be the end of him. Many said Wallner was too horrible on defense and that he would be exposed offensively at this level. Many said Julien could not replace Arraez. His offensive stats are equal and they are equally bad on defense. Of course, we gained a very good pitcher for the next 4 years. How about the predictions for Pagan here? As a group, we might be best served in being more open to change while also embracing trust in developing talent. BTW ... I thought Haniger would have been a good fit instead of Gallo. Well, he has absolutely sucked!
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They actually have a lot of back-up SSs. Lewis would be the 1st back-up. By June (hopefully) Lee or Lewis with Castro as a 3rd option. This team has all kinds of depth at 2B/3B/SS. I could go either way. One possibility is they start the season with Castro / Polanco / Gordon and Larnach or a RH OFer acquired over the winter. Polanco and Farmer do not make sense IMO. Injuries always provide plenty of opportunity for auditions. Lee / Severino / Prato / Martin / Miranda and Hellman will all hopefully continue to earn a shot. The other train of thought is to continue with the youth movement. That many guys, All with versatility. Most with options. That reduces the risk of letting Polanco go. Now, if they can get something decent in return, my on the fence point of view shifts significantly in favor of moving him. Spend the $10M on pitching or to contribute to landing a good RH OFer. Plus, get a decent prospect and this becomes a pretty easy decision for me. Of course, there is a quarter of a season left to influence this line of thinking.
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I have no problem with them keeping Polanco. However, he will not be a starter which changes how and if he fits into the mix. He is not all that versatile because we don't want him at SS and the SSS at 3B has not looked good. I would look at who are the 5 bench players as opposed to who are the 6 INfers because some of our utility players can play both IF and OF. Castro can play LF/CF/3B/2B/SS. Gordon can Play LF/CF/2B/SS Severino can play 1B/2B3B. Martin can play CF/LF/2B/SS Farmer can play 2B/3B/SS Miranda can play 3B/1B Lee is 3B/SS and perhaps 2B Prato could be in the mix as well playing 2B/3B. That's a lot of depth! Things really change once Lee is here. With lee at 3B I suspect Lewis plays 6 days a week in multiple positions. Polanco can really only provide depth at 2B. It makes no sense to play him anywhere else. With this is mind, is the $10M better spent on pitching and the ABs better invested in providing opportunity for Severino/Prato/Martin/Miranda? Tough call!
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A 1yr / $11M contract is a long way from the Dior store. It's a short blip with modest consequence. Spending $160M on Rodon to be injured has consequences. If Correa/Buxton do not bounce back and produce for a few years, that has serious consequences. Those signing were absolutely insisted upon by the majority here.
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I am hoping Paddack is back and pitching well enough to take one of those spots. Regardless, this is still a good illustration of the playoff roster. There simply won't be room on the playoff roster for the other arms people are mentioning, especially if Stewart and/or Paddack are back. Our playoff BP would look pretty darn good with Ryan/Paddack/Stewart and perhaps Kuechel added.
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IDK. He certainly is a good trade chip but I also see him as a great bench player. He can play 1B/2B/3B/DH and he is a switch hitter with power. That provides a lot of options. I think what could keep him here is our lack of depth at 1B. My guess is it's an even money bet that they hold on to Severino.
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